Yes, it is worked base on basic pay. RM3200 is correct.

Haha, no counter offer means you are not that valuable. As long as you follow all the correct procedure, you are free to go...

hi...have a dilemma here.

Am working in banking line, contract staff. during my contract renewal, I was disappointed there was no increment as compared to my other colleagues (contract) and I know that my colleague salary is double of mine tho we almost do the same task. So went out to look for jobs which what my boss say I am most welcome to do so and she has no power to stop me if I were to leave with higher pay and more stable job.

Then recently I have a job offer, higher pay and more stable. But on the same time frame, my boss did an evaluation and gave me a bonus. She mention it is not a norm to give out bonus to contract staff but she mentioned I deserve it so she fought for me. My new job offer is willing to buy me out.

It's either I choose to tender 1 week notice and proceed with proper handover, which my job does not involve projects, does not need an actual handover just an appropriate delegation. But within that 1 week, I am afraid my boss and colleagues plus seniors will get their revenge and probably may hear some nasty remarks (which is one reason I choose to leave because of politics)

OR-

To just tender 24 hr notice, and not hear all these nasty remarks but probably would burn down bridges. Banking world is small and I believe my future boss knows my current boss. Some friends actually ask me to tender 24 hr notice since the new company is willing to buy my notice, so why waste it?

I really don't know what to do

need help here ,

my probation period should end on 10Feb and i got my appraisal form mid of Jan, i filled it up and pass it back to my director, who will be rating me .

however, due to the holiday and something happened, until yesterday oni we have a chance for conversation on my appraisal, which is way off the 10Feb already.

The problem now is , if i want to resign, so i'm still considered as a probation staff (2 weeks notice), or confirmed staff(2 months notice) ?

summary:
1. the appraisal form, which i filled up ald, havent signed by me yet, and my director verbally said will confirm me.

2. my probation period is until 10Feb only , which mentioned on the appraisal form oso

3. heard people said there is an automatic confirm system, which the staff work more than 3 months , then he is a confirmed staff ald, izit true ?

so, whether i should serve 2 weeks or 2 months notice ?

you need to check back your offer letter or contract. In my company, once you passed 6 months, you will be automatically confirm if your superior doesn't make any decision to prolonged it.

Hi all..

I'm about to leave my company but in the agreement I supposed to serve 1mth b4 leaving. The thing is up until today I never got my offer letter because the day I got the letter there are some mistakes on the letter. So, they HR took back the letter and never gave me a new one.

so, do I still bonded with my company cos I din get the offer letter with me? I have asked many time but HR only said will give me later and no ends.

Please help cos I'm going to leave immediately. Thanks

Hi guys, need to ask something. Does the one month notice include Saturday and Sunday as well or just working days?

Thanks!

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Added on February 26, 2011, 8:50 pmif it's stated working days it will exclude Sat + Sun (if you don't have to work on both days normally)

This post has been edited by dtna7: Feb 28 2011, 10:24 AM

some update :

firstly, back in the MID of Feb, i planned to tender my resign letter, however, my boss successfully pursued me to work for another 2 months until the newcomer arrive, becoz if not i will be leaving within 2 weeks (still under probation) .

As i will work another 2 months, she agreed that i may get my confirmation letter which allows me to claim my benefits and then i need 2 months notice for my resignation notice, which is suitable for both of us.

However, yst, she together with another boss, told me another story. They said as if they confirmed me as a permanent staff, and i resign later, it will be bad for the department management's image. So they will extend my probation period for another 2 months, and they want me to FOLLOW my agreement with them, which is to serve them another 2 months..... and then i only resign.

OK, thats my story , just to share....

Then today i resign , things i have done :

1. resign later, using template at the front page. today's date and 2 weeks prior notice. What date i should go ? i forgot to mention it on the letter...

2. passed the letter to the 2 bosses of my department, forgot to pass HR one copy .... what i should do ?

3. my direct boss is not around , another boss tell me to talk my direct boss 1st. so is my tender still valid , starting today ?

4. forgot to ask them sign received..... Now , how ? what should i do ?

5. I entitled for 3 days leave (pro-rated and bring forward from last year), if i didnt take them would the HR pay back to me ?

Any comments ? did i missed out any things ?

This post has been edited by kl87: Mar 2 2011, 10:08 PM

Someone please assist me,

my probation period is 3mths starting February, however i decided to leave despite the environment n such.

However I'd still not receive a copy of my letter of offer I handed up on February itself (despite the head of management had not return a copy to me yet). According to the letter of offer, i have to give 1 week notice for probation.
(I dont want to cause any misunderstanding/unnecessary situation... as the boss is good to me.. )
Since that I've not receive my letter of offer yet, do I still practice the letter by serving the company for another week ? or I can leave immediatly after i present my resignation letter?



This post has been edited by Yennie22: Mar 2 2011, 09:06 PM

hi..saw this thread and would like to ask for some opinion:-

Below is my work experience and reason of leaving:
first job: (5months) : leave due to no senior, all senior suddenly left.
second job: (1 yr): salary low, no increment
third job: (10 months): leave due to given different job scope from what been offered
forth job (current)(5months): thinking of resign

What i wanna ask is that,i been working in such a short term. if i resign again from this company which is only 5 months. will it affect my resume? or the reason i give as long as its strong it will be acceptable?

Appreciate for the advise

Best to talk to your boss about your intentions to leave and that you have not received a copy of your offer letter from HR. Also, support your resignation with a written letter and let your boss handle HR from there. Follow up with your boss and ask for updates.

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Added on March 3, 2011, 4:10 pmTo be very honest, your CV doesn't look really impressive in an interviewer's eyes - here's what I can tell you when they read your resume - that you are not reliable and that they cannot depend on you to stay on the job you applied long enough to contribute to the company.

For most companies, they would want to retain their employees as much as they can (except for the under-performing ones) and in this present age, it is very hard to find a good and reliable staff at a reasonable price. Did you know that it uses up a lot of the managers'/HR's time selecting and interviewing people trying to get the right one? and imagine that when they found the right one and within a couple of months, they have to let him/her go.

Even though you might thing that your reasons are acceptable, but to be frank again, they might not to the interviewers. For example, you mentioned that in your first job, you left because all your seniors left, so why did you leave as well? Was the company not doing very well? Did you suffer any pay cut or non-paid salaries?

Secondly job ... salary low and no increment - chances are, you might end up in the same fate at the company you applied to.

Third job ... ok this looks pretty reasonable .. cos there was a mismatch in the job scope - but you should've cleared this out during your interview before joining the company.

Fourth job ... thinking of resigning - what's the reason? Is it valid enough to convince the interviewers with your reason?

I would suggest you stay on in your fourth job to prove your worth unless the reason to leave is due to drastic circumstances (e.g. boss/company mistreating you, you are victims of harassment, etc). If you said that you current job is another case of job scope mismatch, it is advisable that you clear the requirements out during the interview so that you won't run into the same situation again.



This post has been edited by iamwho: Mar 3 2011, 04:10 PM

I had just received the letter of offer today afternoon... >< What should i do ? Should i just go ahead and tell him about my intention w/ letter ? Im worried if he's dissap... or unhappy.. or..



This post has been edited by Yennie22: Mar 3 2011, 05:38 PM

Hi there,

Not sure if this is the right place for me to ask, but yes, I am about to resign from my current job, I've been working there since 2007 - present.

Ok, here is my problem, last year, I planned to leave after giving 2 months notice, and my boss, so "KIND" to offer me an increment, which I think its reasonable, but then the fact is not, because after the increment, they try to postpone the recruitment plan, where the time we're already short of like 3-4 staffs, that is not important anymore now.

My Q is, the time they offer me an increment, they actually stated a few terms in the Salary Adjustment letter.

Here are the contents....

xx August 2010

Mr XXX
Present

Dear Sir/Madam:

We are pleased to advise you that the Company has approved a salary adjustment of RMxxx ti bring your base salary to RMxxx with effect from 1st October 2010.

We are delighted to offer you the position of xxx and are certain that you will be pleased with the benefits of the possible.

It is a great honor to be the xxx; however not everyone is selected will choose move to this level. Being a part of the xxx team requires dedication, enthusiasm, personal sacrifices and the will to accomplish the work successfully.

Management has decided to borne you for two year contract. You are not allowed to leave the company within the yar from the date of this letter. However if you choose to leave the company after the contract, you still need to serve another 3 months notice from the end of the contract date.

We wish you a better future prospect and success ahead. We again hope that you will keep up the spirits to give your best.

Your faithfully,
XXX, your boss

signature





___________________________________________
I agreed to the above conditions and accept the position offered. I agreed and understand that my employment will be subject to such terms and conditions as may now be operative and that the Company shall have right to modify such term and conditions from time to time as it sees fit.


My Signature
___________
My Name : xxx
My IC : xxx
Date : xxx


my question now is on the bold part, any sifus here can advise what are the possible action can my employer take if I am to leave the company with 2-3 months notice?

Thanks, advises are appreciated~!

The letter of offer is one thing (since HR delayed this, this is not your fault).
But whether or not your boss is going to be unhappy/disappointed, you still need to break the news to him/her sooner or later since you have already made up your mind to leave - unless you are having second thoughts now lah

owh.. Thanks for ur advice^!
Hope for the best tmr.. I felt this is tougher than attending an interview..

Any lawyers around can advise the following:

Is it legal or illegal for an employer not to sign employment contract with its employees?

I know one company doesnt have employment contract with its employees... what legal implications are there on the employees without an employment contract?

What advantage does this give to the employer? is it that the employer can choose not to pay them or fire them at will?

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Added on March 3, 2011, 4:10 pm

To be very honest, your CV doesn't look really impressive in an interviewer's eyes - here's what I can tell you when they read your resume - that you are not reliable and that they cannot depend on you to stay on the job you applied long enough to contribute to the company.

For most companies, they would want to retain their employees as much as they can (except for the under-performing ones) and in this present age, it is very hard to find a good and reliable staff at a reasonable price. Did you know that it uses up a lot of the managers'/HR's time selecting and interviewing people trying to get the right one? and imagine that when they found the right one and within a couple of months, they have to let him/her go.

Even though you might thing that your reasons are acceptable, but to be frank again, they might not to the interviewers. For example, you mentioned that in your first job, you left because all your seniors left, so why did you leave as well? Was the company not doing very well? Did you suffer any pay cut or non-paid salaries?

Secondly job ... salary low and no increment - chances are, you might end up in the same fate at the company you applied to.

Third job ... ok this looks pretty reasonable .. cos there was a mismatch in the job scope - but you should've cleared this out during your interview before joining the company.

Fourth job ... thinking of resigning - what's the reason? Is it valid enough to convince the interviewers with your reason?

I would suggest you stay on in your fourth job to prove your worth unless the reason to leave is due to drastic circumstances (e.g. boss/company mistreating you, you are victims of harassment, etc). If you said that you current job is another case of job scope mismatch, it is advisable that you clear the requirements out during the interview so that you won't run into the same situation again.

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Thanks for the advise.

first of the company .. i hav to leave as i find that there is no one to teach me how to do my job and my boss had no time to teach me.. thus, i hav to leave or else it wil like waste of time. second job, salary just too low to survive. i would agree that same fate in some other company but the job i get for the 3rd is much more higher.. the third job is that when i go in work for first day , after i sign the offer letter and so on then onli realise this is not as what i interview for.

the current, reason of leaving cos i did some mistake my work (small mistake, everyone say so) my boss angry me until today.. its been 2 months. feel like she hinting me to leave. but of course i wont say so.. i wil say to change a new job which i plan to do something is different from my current job.

will it be sufficient?

This post has been edited by chocoraisin: Mar 3 2011, 11:04 PM

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Added on March 4, 2011, 11:43 amLet me try to put this as nicely as I can, but I still have to be honest with you ... when you mentioned that you expect your senior to guide you in your first job and because they left, you felt abandoned as your bosses were to busy to entertain you. Truth to be told, this is how corporate world is like - you are on your own mostly and are expected to maneuver your ways around to get things done (with minimal supervision) because everyone's just too bz manning their own rice bowls. Of course, you will be considered lucky if you have a certain individual who is willing to spend time going through your job with you, but in most companies, you won't have such luxuries. I have changed a few jobs in my life, and I have learned a great deal about being independent in some of those jobs, though I did have the privilege of being coached one on one as well.

So if you tell the interviewers that you could not do your job on your own and you needed a lot supervision - they will potentially strike you out of their candidates list.

2nd job .. still sounds more reasonable because as a company, they would have researched on salary scales for different types of job scopes and if they learned of your low salary scale, they may consider your candidature

3rd job ... ok, you got your expected pay, and found out that the job isn't what you asked for. Chances are they will ask this "why didn't you clarify this at your interview" - you need to prepare "bullets" for this.

current job ... everyone makes mistakes and it is unfortunate that your boss is not a forgiving and open-minded boss. This is a tricky situation, but, is there a chance you can have a one on one talk with your boss about this to clear things up and get things moving? If you like your current job, then I think this approach is worth considering in order to maintain your job and stay on for at least a year to prove your worth. If you mention that you plan to do something else which is different from your current job, this is what the interviewers will think - "but you have not stayed on long enough to see the entire scope of the job to come to this decision". It also goes to show that you are indecisive of what you want to do ...

Try the approach of talking to your boss in person and show him/her that you really like what u are doing and that your mistake should not hinder you from progressing further on the job and from fostering a good working relationship with your boss. If all things fail, I supposed the only way out is through resignation and I don't think you should lie about this to your interviewers. You can tell your potential interviewers about your situation, but put it in a short and professional sentence that tells the interviewers of your professionalism of approaching this matter on the job.

I wish you all the best in your future undertakings.


This post has been edited by iamwho: Mar 4 2011, 11:43 AM

thanks for the advise.. really long..

yea i was planning to have a talk to her soon , as this situation is really stress. I just feel i this job is not suitable for me anymore.. but i will try to have a talk to her and see hows the things goes on.

thanks again