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Your mb/mbp battery health/problem
Your mb/mbp battery health/problem
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Dec 15 2009, 01:58 AM
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thanks a lot preducer n kellykulala! oh n dvlzplayground too
not tht worried anymore |
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Dec 15 2009, 12:13 PM
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7,916 posts Joined: Jul 2005 From: Kuala Lumpur |
QUOTE(kellykulala @ Dec 15 2009, 01:55 AM) haha dvlzplayground..logically battery health cant b over 100% riiightt lol that's why qwertypolle..just calibrate the battery every 2 months.. the battery health will maintain..or worst come to worst it wont drop drastically if u still feel worried, call applecare, they'll surely help u..no worries okay? |
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Dec 26 2009, 02:50 PM
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337 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Subang Jaya |
QUOTE(MinK @ Nov 25 2009, 06:38 AM) it is perfectly fine (in fact recommended) to connect ur laptop to the ac power the whole time. the more u discharge and charge it will increase the cycle count and this is what determines ur battery life. if im not mistaken by the 300th cycle ur battery should be able to retain about 80% of its initial capacity. for me id immediately change my power source to ac once the battery goes below 60% and when im at home ill connect it to ac power 24/7. i do the callibration every 1 month. Keeping the battery @ 100% will kill it faster. See post #256. I've explained the behaviour of li-ion.polymer cells.QUOTE(jc79 @ Dec 9 2009, 12:31 AM) my mbp 13" is jz 3-day old... but i found the battery drain very fast!!! Unfortunately it should read good. Maybe apple changed, i dunno. Try downloading coconut battery to check it's capacity.when i check on the system, the result is:- » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « the CONDITION is NORMAL ONLY!!! I saw other people's battery condition is GOOD... does it means my battery got problem? Thanks It should read something like » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(qwertypolle @ Dec 10 2009, 11:01 PM) hi everyone..i just bought a new macbook white at first the battery health is 100% but after i calibrate the battery it became 97% i thot the health shud increase..not decrease help? QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Dec 10 2009, 11:41 PM) yeah calibration is to maintain health... not make the health increase... if increase then its defying physics already ;p sometimes this stuff not so accurate. how about u try check with other apps like Coconut. QUOTE(kellykulala @ Dec 15 2009, 01:55 AM) haha dvlzplayground..logically battery health cant b over 100% riiightt lol To shed more light, calibrating WILL NOT increase the capacity or maintain it. (No matter what apple says)qwertypolle..just calibrate the battery every 2 months.. the battery health will maintain..or worst come to worst it wont drop drastically if u still feel worried, call applecare, they'll surely help u..no worries okay? The purpose of calibration is to reset your macbook's battery meter so that it is accurate. Hence the term "calibration" In fact, calibration will usually decrease battery's capacity by a little bit as lithiums do not like to be over-discharged. Here's my battery few days after calibration. Hmm... can't upload.. oops. Type out la. Current cap. = 4668 mAh Ori cap. = 5020 mAh Capacity left = 92% Load-cycle = 313 Age = 24 months Hey not bad =P |
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Jan 2 2010, 08:51 PM
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8,025 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: Planet Boleland |
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Jan 2 2010, 09:04 PM
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7,916 posts Joined: Jul 2005 From: Kuala Lumpur |
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Jan 2 2010, 09:15 PM
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8,025 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: Planet Boleland |
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Jan 3 2010, 11:49 PM
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hi,
I am sorry, i am new to mac as well, I have MBP 15inch and i can't seem to find the charge cycle. my battery life always show 96% eventhough i am still charging it.. Is it okay to keep charging my MBP as i always leave it at home, hence the plug is on 24/7. I do off it sometimes to drain the battery.. Hope my actions are not ruining the battery life.. another thing is, the website says battery can last up to 7hours, yet when i bring it out, it only last about 4-5hours max. |
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Jan 4 2010, 12:08 AM
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8,025 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: Planet Boleland |
QUOTE(hyumi @ Jan 3 2010, 11:49 PM) hi, If i were you,I am sorry, i am new to mac as well, I have MBP 15inch and i can't seem to find the charge cycle. my battery life always show 96% eventhough i am still charging it.. Is it okay to keep charging my MBP as i always leave it at home, hence the plug is on 24/7. I do off it sometimes to drain the battery.. Hope my actions are not ruining the battery life.. another thing is, the website says battery can last up to 7hours, yet when i bring it out, it only last about 4-5hours max. i will charge the battery when i am not using the lappie, this way it wont put a strain on the adaptor and in the process it will last longer i will turn off the mains to use the lappie, once its fully charge i will discharge it once every 50 days or so |
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Jan 4 2010, 12:49 AM
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2,642 posts Joined: Jan 2005 From: Penang |
QUOTE(digilife @ Jan 4 2010, 12:08 AM) If i were you, well easily, your battery kaputi will charge the battery when i am not using the lappie, this way it wont put a strain on the adaptor and in the process it will last longer i will turn off the mains to use the lappie, once its fully charge i will discharge it once every 50 days or so you're wasting your battery cycle i wont recommend the way you use, i have a very good example my dad macbook is nearly 3 years the battery still very genki use it as normal will plug in, even fully charge, just let it be, only be portable when you need portable, mean only use battery when away from desk. And do calibration every months, means fully drain the battery then charge back |
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Jan 4 2010, 01:01 AM
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7,916 posts Joined: Jul 2005 From: Kuala Lumpur |
agree with crayzee. digilife u need to change ur habits ;p
QUOTE(hyumi @ Jan 3 2010, 11:49 PM) hi, go to About this Mac, More Info, n go to Power. that's where the charge cycle is ('cycle count' under health information). alternatively u can download iStat pro, iStat nano or coconut battery.I am sorry, i am new to mac as well, I have MBP 15inch and i can't seem to find the charge cycle. my battery life always show 96% eventhough i am still charging it.. Is it okay to keep charging my MBP as i always leave it at home, hence the plug is on 24/7. I do off it sometimes to drain the battery.. Hope my actions are not ruining the battery life.. another thing is, the website says battery can last up to 7hours, yet when i bring it out, it only last about 4-5hours max. my MBP is plugged in all the time when i'm using it. only when i turn if off, i disconnect the magsafe battery life heavily depends on what u're doing with the notebook (or any gadget). if u leave it idle, off wifi n bluetooth, no apps running, and off the screen, i think can go more than 7 hours ;p |
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Jan 4 2010, 01:07 AM
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8,025 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: Planet Boleland |
QUOTE(cRazYee @ Jan 4 2010, 12:49 AM) well easily, your battery kaput wont tat "kill" the battery faster?you're wasting your battery cycle i wont recommend the way you use, i have a very good example my dad macbook is nearly 3 years the battery still very genki use it as normal will plug in, even fully charge, just let it be, only be portable when you need portable, mean only use battery when away from desk. And do calibration every months, means fully drain the battery then charge back cause tat was wat happened to my acer battery last time or acer battery system is different?? |
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Jan 4 2010, 01:21 AM
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7,916 posts Joined: Jul 2005 From: Kuala Lumpur |
QUOTE(digilife @ Jan 4 2010, 01:07 AM) wont tat "kill" the battery faster? yes it's different cause tat was wat happened to my acer battery last time or acer battery system is different?? This post has been edited by dvlzplayground: Jan 4 2010, 01:23 AM |
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Jan 4 2010, 06:07 AM
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2,642 posts Joined: Jan 2005 From: Penang |
QUOTE(digilife @ Jan 4 2010, 01:07 AM) wont tat "kill" the battery faster? although they are both start will "A" companycause tat was wat happened to my acer battery last time or acer battery system is different?? but they are really different i'm pre-acer user as well since 3/4 years back, apple design circuit was so intelligent, it will automatic stop the charging and allow the computer will direct power in only we did have debate whether is was software control or hardware control my fren told me windows vista will perform the same operation as well, i not quite sure Sony Computers do have the features as well |
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Jan 4 2010, 06:25 AM
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8,025 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: Planet Boleland |
QUOTE(cRazYee @ Jan 4 2010, 06:07 AM) although they are both start will "A" company so meaning to say tat its better to plug-in to the mains and use the lappie while the switch is SWITCHED ON will actually prolong the battery life as the electric current will bypassed the battery and main power will be used?but they are really different i'm pre-acer user as well since 3/4 years back, apple design circuit was so intelligent, it will automatic stop the charging and allow the computer will direct power in only we did have debate whether is was software control or hardware control my fren told me windows vista will perform the same operation as well, i not quite sure Sony Computers do have the features as well |
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Jan 4 2010, 08:47 AM
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2,642 posts Joined: Jan 2005 From: Penang |
well, you wont wanted to always take out and put in your battery, dont you?
you dont want to waste your battery cycle, dont you? so, just plug on the power, nothing to worry when you see charged, mean battery fully charge, when your mac will use direct power from adapter. better or not.... well i manage to have batter battery service period. My dad fren did the same as you, his battery kaput after year plus. They bought the mac almost the same time. So, how do you think? |
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Jan 4 2010, 11:42 AM
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7,916 posts Joined: Jul 2005 From: Kuala Lumpur |
QUOTE(digilife @ Jan 4 2010, 06:25 AM) so meaning to say tat its better to plug-in to the mains and use the lappie while the switch is SWITCHED ON will actually prolong the battery life as the electric current will bypassed the battery and main power will be used? yes, better and easier. it doesn't 'prolong' the battery life (as in longer than it should), it's just how u're supposed to use it. if u keep taking out the battery, then u'll be charging it so many times n it'll die sooner than it should. |
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Jan 4 2010, 11:45 AM
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337 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Subang Jaya |
QUOTE(digilife @ Jan 2 2010, 08:51 PM) if this is my battery condition, can it be recondition back to better life as the battery loadcycle is kinda low Sorry, there is no way to regain lost capacity on Lithium batteries as the chemistry is like that. Only option is to get a new battery.if yes, how can i do it thanks You should check if your battery is really at that capacity though as it is un-naturally low. It should be more than 50% still. Is this after a calibration? An uncalibrated reading might not be accurate as some charge can be lost during the charging/discharging process. QUOTE(hyumi @ Jan 3 2010, 11:49 PM) hi, Yes it will ruin the batt if you keep it full all the time. This is just the way Lithium batteries work.I am sorry, i am new to mac as well, I have MBP 15inch and i can't seem to find the charge cycle. my battery life always show 96% eventhough i am still charging it.. Is it okay to keep charging my MBP as i always leave it at home, hence the plug is on 24/7. I do off it sometimes to drain the battery.. Hope my actions are not ruining the battery life.. another thing is, the website says battery can last up to 7hours, yet when i bring it out, it only last about 4-5hours max. Battery life depends on what you do. If you want to leave your MBP at home all the time, I suggest you get a desktop. If you really want to maximize your battery life, there is one way. Discharge it to 40%. Then store it in ur fridge. 40% seems to be the optimal capacity to store a Li-ion based battery and the lower the temp, the better. Not too low like freezer. Fridge should be fine. QUOTE(digilife @ Jan 4 2010, 01:07 AM) wont tat "kill" the battery faster? Yes, keeping it full will kill it faster.cause tat was wat happened to my acer battery last time or acer battery system is different?? And please, Acer and all other companies battery work the same. Even the charging algorithm is the same as Lithium cobalt based batteries are very explosive prone and is not happy with weird charging algorithms. If charge is not cut by the time the batt reaches 100%, it will (soon) overheat and blow up. *BOOM* Acer and all other companies do have a separate problem though. The battery is usually kept together with all other heat producing components. So the battery will naturally not last as long. Apple (being the genius they are) has kept the battery far away from all the "battery assassins". Therefora a mac battery usually lasts much longer. Hooray to Apple! =D Here's my batt. Hmm... it refuses to let me upload.. =( Charge Information: Charge remaining (mAh): 2409 Fully charged: No Charging: No Full charge capacity (mAh): 4636 (of 5020, 92%) Health Information: Cycle count: 318 (age: 24 months) Condition: Good Battery Installed: Yes Amperage (mA): -1387 Voltage (mV): 11236 This post has been edited by polkiuj: Jan 4 2010, 12:14 PM |
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Jan 4 2010, 07:29 PM
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1,754 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Balham, London |
My battery is currently at 64% capacity after over 3 years of use. It shall be replaced with this:
http://store.fastmac.com/product_info.php?products_id=3 |
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Jan 4 2010, 08:37 PM
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8,025 posts Joined: Feb 2005 From: Planet Boleland |
QUOTE(INFeRNO @ Jan 4 2010, 07:29 PM) My battery is currently at 64% capacity after over 3 years of use. It shall be replaced with this: any local reseller available which sells reliable or ori battery?http://store.fastmac.com/product_info.php?products_id=3 thx |
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Jan 8 2010, 02:46 AM
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What is the implication if i turn on my MacBook Pro 13" for hours and hours with charger on? Maybe days, because i need to burn in my headphone if u guys know what i mean. Also, what happens if we don't have AppleCare and our battery doesn't work?Can retailers help us change the battery on the spot?
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