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post Sep 29 2009, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Sep 29 2009, 08:53 PM)
OC wiil cause cpu terbakar ah?
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I don't think so.
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post Sep 29 2009, 09:55 PM

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overclocking will not make the cpu burn in flames.
not good enough cooling=throttle down,shut down
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post Sep 29 2009, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(Racerx @ Sep 29 2009, 09:55 PM)
overclocking will not make the cpu burn in flames.
not good enough cooling=throttle down,shut down
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Yea, overheat
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post Sep 30 2009, 12:54 AM

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Sifu's sekalian!
I refer to MSI P55-GD65

Memory speed
DDR3-2133 (OC), 2000 (OC)/ 1800 (OC)/ 1600 (OC)/ 1333/1066MHz

What does that OC means? after i overclock the mobo or oc the ram?

Does it mean i can support ram with 2000Mhz? Just plug and play or need to do some tweaking?

hope sifu's sekalian can teach. Getting this mobo soon, MSI coming out promo on 1st Oct.
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post Sep 30 2009, 02:45 AM

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QUOTE(m3ow @ Sep 30 2009, 12:54 AM)
Sifu's sekalian!
I refer to MSI P55-GD65

Memory speed
DDR3-2133 (OC), 2000 (OC)/ 1800 (OC)/ 1600 (OC)/ 1333/1066MHz

What does that OC means? after i overclock the mobo or oc the ram?

Does it mean i can support ram with 2000Mhz? Just plug and play or need to do some tweaking?

hope sifu's sekalian can teach. Getting this mobo soon, MSI coming out promo on 1st Oct.
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means u cant get the speed stated unless u tweak something..
any ram u plug in, ur mobo will set it run on 1333mhz (if im correct with this value la)...so in order to gain the 2133mhz, u need to tweak..
change divider etc etc...

the ddr3-2133 means the ram is tested and can run stable at 2133mhz... no need to pening2 wat itu dan ini..
urgh..im bad at explaining
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post Sep 30 2009, 03:38 AM

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asking about ram's again... i need to buy a dual channel supported ram only can have the function? or any value ram, with the same capacity and mhz will do?

as example, 2x Corsair 2GB DDR2 800Mhz Gaming Ram suits in a GA-EP43-UD3L mobo... the mobo can support dual channel, the ram wasn't sure, coz its just a value ram.
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post Sep 30 2009, 04:02 AM

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any brand of ram, that been slot in the same colored slot, it will run dual channel on dual channel supported board and will run triple channel on triple channel board..

u can pick any ram... no need for same brand or "dual channel kit" or same ramchip...
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post Sep 30 2009, 04:20 AM

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Sep 30 2009, 02:45 AM)
means u cant get the speed stated unless u tweak something..
any ram u plug in, ur mobo will set it run on 1333mhz (if im correct with this value la)...so in order to gain the 2133mhz, u need to tweak..
change divider etc etc...

the ddr3-2133 means the ram is tested and can run stable at 2133mhz... no need to pening2 wat itu dan ini..
urgh..im bad at explaining
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right in few and wrong in many sense

it means OC.. part .. stock voltages wont run it.

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post Sep 30 2009, 06:43 AM

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oooo... thanks thanks!!! so im currently using 2x Corsair 2GB DDR2 800Mhz. i wanted to ask, 800mhz and 1033mhz, the difference is big and better? what's the opinion if i tend to change from 800 to 1033? i dont OC my stuff currently, playing alot of latest game, can be a heavy user sometimes, off my pc maybe 3 days once...
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QUOTE(xi4n9 @ Sep 30 2009, 06:43 AM)
oooo... thanks thanks!!! so im currently using 2x Corsair 2GB DDR2 800Mhz. i wanted to ask, 800mhz and 1033mhz, the difference is big and better? what's the opinion if i tend to change from 800 to 1033? i dont OC my stuff currently, playing alot of latest game, can be a heavy user sometimes, off my pc maybe 3 days once...
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i did read some review on ramspeed @gaming..
they tested on game that highly affected by ramspeed.. (i cant remember what game) and the result around 3fps increase..
if tested on example crysis, it barely increse 1fps..

so its ur call..

@cstkl
there must be something i left out and things i donno...do forgive me...
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driver gigabyte g31 can support os 64bit?
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can i use this cable the other way round http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/909344, guys, my gc gtx 260 has only one dvi and the other one is hdmi, my question is, can i use this cable to connect it from my graphic card hdmi to lcd dvi? my lcd doesnt has a hdmi.. i need the dvi port on the gc for my secondary monitor..
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post Sep 30 2009, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Sep 30 2009, 07:11 AM)
i did read some review on ramspeed @gaming..
they tested on game that highly affected by ramspeed.. (i cant remember what game) and the result around 3fps increase..
if tested on example crysis, it barely increse 1fps..

so its ur call..

@cstkl
there must be something i left out and things i donno...do forgive me...
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ok another correction

a lot of reviewers on there are pure idiots when it comes to clocking rams..
most of them dont even lower the tRD..
most mobo bios dont do this on auto.. u have to do it ureself as its chipset dependent

i would not take any reviews other than from

anandtech
elitebastard
harwarecanuck..

other than this all are pure noobs

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post Sep 30 2009, 03:06 PM

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@cstkl1
but still everybody know that ocing ram lead to small gain only.
i doubt u can exactly feel any diff in gaming no matter how pro a person tweak his ram...
in other apps might differ... but gaming is too small to gain even with insane ramspeed + tight timings..

do correct me if im wrong..im a noob in ram oc anyway
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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Sep 30 2009, 03:06 PM)
@cstkl1
but still everybody know that ocing ram lead to small gain only.
i doubt u can exactly feel any diff in gaming no matter how pro a person tweak his ram...
in other apps might differ... but gaming is too small to gain even with insane ramspeed + tight timings..

do correct me if im wrong..im a noob in ram oc anyway
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let me explain to u on how to gain

it first depends on the gc ure using aka the gc mem bandwidth to pcie lane
second take the tRD value wich gives a boost on the base of the mem bandwidth/latency on ure NB for 775's
this is where the gain happens .
second on any game nowadays it always loads from ure hdd to ram to gc mem.
depending on ure reso so like 1920x1200 for example
most games like crysis etc will be having around 1-2gb's of data stored on ure mem and around 1gb for example on gtx285 stored
for gaming..

theres a lot of ways to test this
but ultimately first for vista example have atleast 4gb running on 64bit with virtual mem disable

try it, test it.


y some ppl have no gain..
because they overclock their memspeeds with loose tRD's...

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Okie, first of all, thanks to kuntawakaw and cstkl1 for replying my question!!! thanks!!! notworthy.gif

im interested in OC and will learn maybe later on, but currently still stick with normal setting, means manufacturer setting, so i wana know between 800 mhz and 1033mhz, does it different?

i'll add more info for my gc and activities, im using sapphire 4850 with 2x corsair value gaming ram 800mhz, E7400 proc, GA-EP43-UD3L mobo, hdd 500gb 7200rpm...

current activities, adobe photoshop,illustrator,flash,dreamweaver, games would be grid,undercover,prototype,left 4 dead,warcraft.
alwiz will be using illustrator multi-tab with flash, or any adobe series multi-tab both at once or three... after long term using, some lagness will cause when multi-tab. proc problem?or ram?

and today i found out, my intel ori hsf have some problem. It's going slow that i can see the movement, sometimes like normal one goes... does it really harm? if start pc, it wont turn, i need manually push only it will run afterwards... i just mean, will it be okie if the fan doesn't turn/turn slow till i can see fan wings movement? it will be temporary only, will change to 212 plus later on. thanks!!! notworthy.gif


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post Sep 30 2009, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(xi4n9 @ Sep 30 2009, 05:28 PM)
Okie, first of all, thanks to kuntawakaw and cstkl1 for replying my question!!! thanks!!! notworthy.gif

im interested in OC and will learn maybe later on, but currently still stick with normal setting, means manufacturer setting, so i wana know between 800 mhz and 1033mhz, does it different?

i'll add more info for my gc and activities, im using sapphire 4850 with 2x corsair value gaming ram 800mhz, E7400 proc, GA-EP43-UD3L mobo, hdd  500gb 7200rpm...

current activities, adobe photoshop,illustrator,flash,dreamweaver, games would be grid,undercover,prototype,left 4 dead,warcraft.
alwiz will be using illustrator multi-tab with flash, or any adobe series multi-tab both at once or three... after long term using, some lagness will cause when multi-tab. proc problem?or ram?

and today i found out, my intel ori hsf have some problem. It's going slow that i can see the movement, sometimes like normal one goes... does it really harm? if start pc, it wont turn, i need manually push only it will run afterwards... i just mean, will it be okie if the fan doesn't turn/turn slow till i can see fan wings movement? it will be temporary only, will change to 212 plus later on. thanks!!! notworthy.gif
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That would probably lead to an increase in your processor temps.. Might cause your computer to throttle or auto shut down..

Maybe you can use speedfan, hwmonitor or some program to monitor your processor temps... Just in case it reaches an unsafe level.
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guys, a quick noob question. i'm playing crysis at max settings and the frame rates are acceptable. i didnt measure with fraps, but i'd say more than 30fps. the problem is, after a few minutes of playing, the game just crashes and stops responding. the game works fine at medium or high settings. i've logged the temps of the gpu, and it never exceeded 60c. so is it the gpu, cpu or ram which is limiting the game at max settings?

my spec:
athlon II X2 240 2.8ghz
2gb ocz gold ddr2 800mhz ram
galaxy gtx260 896mb ddr3, 192sp

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what res you play?and are you sure the gpu is 192sp,not 216sp?did you just bought it?is it dx10 or dx11?which level?

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