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post Feb 26 2009, 09:03 AM

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sifus... i would like to ask something regarding my motherboard.. i use ECS elitegroup G31T-M7, and on the manual it say it can "support 512Mb and 1Gb DDR2 DRAM technologies for x8 and x16 devices."
does the x16 device refer to graphic card? if yes, does it mean i cannot use ddr3 gc? thanks!
oh, and please recommend the cheapest motherboard that can support ddr3 pcie... thanks again!
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post Mar 11 2009, 12:47 AM

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if i overclock, and my proc burn, warranty will void right? but how do they know if i oc or not? what if i say i didnt oc?
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post Mar 11 2009, 12:42 PM

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hehe, exactly what i was looking for. thanks! wink.gif

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post Mar 12 2009, 01:25 AM

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hmm.. similar question here... i already have a piece of 2gb ddr2 800mhz kingston... and i heard 32bit platforms wont recognize 4gb, only around 3 something... so should i add another 1gb ddr2 800mhz kingston or 2gb?
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post Mar 12 2009, 08:28 AM

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hehe, of course adding another 2gb is better, but dont have much cash. i'll be needing the ram to play games, so i doubt my 2gb currently would be enough, since im using vista. but then after hearing people say that 32bit systems can only recognize up to 3.25gb or less, i figured buying a 2gb kit is simply a waste of money, but a 1gb kit wont work as efficiently..

QUOTE(gadiylim @ Mar 12 2009, 01:25 AM)
Hi,
I've got a PC at home that runs a 160GB hard drive. I'm running out of space and I need to buy an additional drive. The thing is, my motherboard can only support 1 SATA slot sad.gif
Just to check, I think there are no such thing as SATA extensions rite?

Possible for me to transfer it to a 1TB without losing any of my settings?

IF it's possible and you know who I can approach to do this, possible to PM me a recommendation? I stay at PJ near mid valley.
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usb external hdd is an alternative, although a bit slower than ur primary sata hdd. so store apps in 160gb, and store other files in the 1tb external hdd.
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post Mar 12 2009, 12:04 PM

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clone... maybe can.. but need a pc that can plug in both hdd la.. just copy the whole drive and paste, am i wrong? never heard of sata expansions... anyway, what kind of settings do u mean? are they important and cannot be adjusted in new windows?
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post Mar 26 2009, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(21th century apes @ Mar 26 2009, 07:30 PM)
how can i determine that my GC can crossfire or not rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif ?im using forsa 9800gt nvidia.decide to crossfire coz wanna play HD games like grid,dmc4 and left4dead thumbup.gif
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correct me if im wrong, but if the gc can crossfire, it should have some sort of slot on the top of the gc (the opposite side of the slot where u plug in the gc into the pci-e slot). it's on the right side if u view the installed gc from above. the slot is used to connect two or more gc, so if ur gc have one, then surely it can crossfire. anyway, crossfire is for ati cards. nvidia uses the term SLI for their multi-gpu platform. even thought they're actually the same thing.


Added on March 26, 2009, 9:02 pmanyway, 9800gt has sli. so dont worry about it. and i think one card is enough unless u're using a huge lcd. im playing left4dead with my hd4830 on the highest settings and it works fine. dont even need to oc the card.

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post Mar 31 2009, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(Xehanort @ Mar 31 2009, 05:30 PM)
then why it states tat front can insert 1 fan?? rclxub.gif
in case tat i cant insert in front
so tat means i can only insert maximum 3 fans only?? (1 on back, 2 on side)
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maybe u can insert a fan in front. some casings look like that but they actually have some holes or slits on the front panel to allow air flow. so if there's a slot to screw in a fan, and some holes in front, then surely can. just make sure that the fan is sucking air in, instead of blowing it out.


Added on March 31, 2009, 6:30 pmi googled the casing and it seems there's a gap below the front panel, so u can definitely put a fan in front. confirm!

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post Mar 31 2009, 06:36 PM

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ur casing has a gap below the front panel right? the lower part of front panel can open right? the one with usb ports and stuff. there's a hole below that panel which can be used to suck the air in, so no problem then. the basic rule is, fan below sucks in cold air, while fan above blows out hot air. cos cold air is heavier and stays at the bottom, while hot air is lighter and stays at the top.


Added on March 31, 2009, 6:48 pmi have a silent 12cm cooler master fan. wanna buy mine? where are u staying?

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post Mar 31 2009, 07:05 PM

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goodluck with ur casing k! hopefully the temp will reduce a bit. and try to clean up the area around the hdd, messy wires can lead to poor ventilation.
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post Apr 9 2009, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(@MAN-kun @ Apr 9 2009, 05:51 PM)
actually what gc r u using now? its rare to hear that a gc can bottleneck lcd. hmm, very curious here  hmm.gif

hmm...mr kenvess/anyone. how to use quote properly? hehe, i'm new here  biggrin.gif  notworthy.gif
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click "quote", then click "add reply"... that should do it.. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 13 2009, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Apr 13 2009, 04:50 PM)
usually if those cheap case they do bundled a psu together with it but those high end case they dont come together.
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but cooler master chasis bundled with psu is ok, not really high end but at least mid-range chasis and psu. plus it's cheaper when it's bundled together. a cooler master centurion costs rm160, and cooler master extreme power plus 460w around rm140, but bundled i got rm 275 only. but really high end cases dont have psu, that's for sure.
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post Apr 13 2009, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(wen9x88 @ Apr 13 2009, 08:22 PM)
just buy the 1 tb hdd.
but it not 1000GB.
only got 93xxGB,where is another 70GB ?
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totally normal... and usually, the larger the capacity of the hdd, the larger amount of space u will lose... e.g. an 80gb hdd might get 75gb, lose 5gb, but 320gb might get 305gb, lose 15gb... same thing applies to pendrives, etc, most portable storage. not sure about the old skool floppy though...
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post Apr 28 2009, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Apr 28 2009, 04:14 AM)
Not actually glue. Thermal tape is considered better as it covers the gap between CPU/GPU and HSF more thoroughly than a thermal paste.

I wouldn't buy thermal tape just for a 3-4 degrees drop at the price of RM15-RM20.
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i thought it's the other way around? the same way that super glue sticks stronger than double sided tape right? since it spreads better, thinner, and fills in the microscopic gap and dents on the surface of cpu/gpu and hsf....
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post Apr 28 2009, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(WiiPS3_74 @ Apr 28 2009, 01:39 PM)

Added on April 28, 2009, 1:46 pm
Yup I agree with you,in many ways thermal paste adhesive is better than thermal tape.For one,its cheaper,1 tube could be used for many applications.It sets solid after its curing period.Like anything else get top quality stuff for your PC,try Arctic Silver Thermal Adhesive:)
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avoid silver if u're a beginner... great thermal conductivity, but if spill on ur mobo or proc, then u might have short-circuit and the temp difference wont matter anymore... get ceramic based, and try avoid silicon based. silicon cheap and good in many ways (easy to remove, doesnt conduct electricity, doesnt 'glue' ur hsf and proc like gam gajah, etc), but ceramic conducts heat much better... the good thing about thermal tape is that it's easy to apply and remove. that's why we all love celophan tapes. biggrin.gif

btw, i saw some shops selling gold-based thermal paste... dunno what brand, but for sure not famous brands like ocz, ac, tuniq... some china brand.. hmm.gif

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post Apr 28 2009, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Apr 28 2009, 02:24 PM)
Thermal pad works on the same principle as thermal paste, and no it does not bond the CPU and the HSF as strong as super glue. Under the pressure of push pins, the thermal pad will be squeezed just like the thermal paste, plus you don't need to worry about the leakage or excessive application of thermal paste with the pad.

Me? I used generic brand of thermal paste (RM4/tube, can use twice), it works with no hassle. Think again whether it is worthy to spend RM20-RM30 just to drop a few degrees even in a safe temperature range?
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i was referring to thermal paste when i mentioned the super glue bond.. cos got some cases where after a few years of using the same thermal paste, the proc got stuck to the hsf and it's really hard to separate them without damaging the proc... (rarely seen with silicon based thermal paste though) sweat.gif thermal pad shouldnt have this prob since they wont become rock solid after prolonged usage right? the leakage issue is a good point u mentioned. for those who have no idea how to apply thermal paste properly, a thermal pad should provide an easier solution. dont have to worry about the amount, or how to spread it, etc. so there are pros and cons for each type.. stock thermal paste or pads work well enough for those who doesnt oc their proc... better save up the rm30 for a better hsf huh? i agree with that thumbup.gif saving up for a red scorpion myself!

QUOTE(ktek @ Apr 28 2009, 02:30 PM)
not always, when you got BIG GAP (surface blocked by something) then it's another way around laugh.gif
and then you cannot use thermal paste to heatsink that don't have clip or screw, it won't stick for long time.
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thermal pad wins in that case.. hehe. laugh.gif
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post May 12 2009, 01:37 PM

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ur tv have what kind of input? just buy the appropriate cable and u're ready to go. if ur tv have vga input, get a s-vga cable (or just use dvi-vga converter or dvi-dvi, depends on ur gc output). ir ur tv use rca, get s-rca cable. but have to search around a bit la and it's not that easy to find one.

should look like the one below. dunno if it's included with ur card or not..
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post May 16 2009, 11:40 PM

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guys, wanna ask something, is it possible to construct a mid end gaming rig using sff casing? would it get too hot during gaming?
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post May 16 2009, 11:43 PM

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hmm, i think i'll be using cheap m-atx mobo like asus p5kpl-am and stock hsf, so that wont be much of a prob. just worry about the gc cos there's not much space if sff casing. a dual-slot gc would probably get pretty hot i guess... and cannot install lots of fans like cm690 also.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(redzwan @ May 16 2009, 11:46 PM)
well..niclasteoh sell sff casing that is aluminium that price 3xx something..it can put 4 120mm fan as well..
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yeah, i saw that casing, in black aluminum and 5 slots for 12cm fans, but a bit too expensive for kot... sweat.gif
anyway, it's not for me actually, it's for my fren. he want a gaming rig in sff costing about rm1800 in total, with lcd. so i guess that leaves rm1450 for the rig itself. and if i use that casing from niclasteoh, he would only have about rm1100 for the mobo, proc, ram, gc, dvd, hdd, etc. and 5 fans arent cheap either... sad.gif

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