mind to share some pic of it?

Sure why not? Big thanks to the people in this thread. You guys teach me a lot about selvage or raw denim jeans. I really appreciate it.

Care to give some comment on my 1st pair of premium brand of jeans?

tht is a good pair...looks good!! but then again..too bad its a pre-wash pair..would rock if its a pair of raw..

anyways..the sugar cane type II is dope...but its a pair of one wash sugar cane..i wonder how these pair would fade? would it takes more time for them to form all the creases and fading compared to a raw one? anyone has any experience buying this one wash canes? perhaps the one wash denime?

yeah... nice jeans bro and congrat for you first premium.

but, like treflip has said, it would be better if it was a raw one..

coz i don't like how the crease has turned into..

This post has been edited by hedonkop: Feb 7 2010, 09:33 AM

opsssss... sorry for my ignorance

i've edited my last post

awesome fits from ahtiven and hedonkop! keep 'em coming guys.

Thanks for the input guys.
Well, for Raw there will be always be next time. XD. Maybe a True Religion??

Err.. Don't know it's just me or what, would you spend RM1000+ to something that doesn't fit at 1st? You wear it like only a week plus than only would fit. After 1st wash, the color also will look different? I'm kinda scared of it. Can someone enlighten me?

I see some of the Evisu in BAB is some EU. But, mine is stated there "Tokyo,Osaka". So I assume is a Japan region one. Also, some of the Evisu I tried is not even Selvage. Buying a Selvage one or non-selvage, what's the difference anyway? So, I assume mine is Selvage by looking inside out of the jeans at the bottom part?

Gardens Levi's also have some LVC's. Red Tag and some 1940++ cutting. I'm not so interested in Levi's LVC anyway. I would rather spend it on Evisu/7Jeans/True Religion.

This post has been edited by ujoewong: Feb 7 2010, 01:45 PM

ujoe, how much u bought your evisu?

if for 1k+ i'd proxy a pair of sammy GTX

This post has been edited by ahtiven: Feb 7 2010, 01:57 PM

RM1299 Retail. 20% off. So, RM1030+-

wah.... you're rich man...

i can get a pair of Iron Heart for that, maybe SEXIH07

This post has been edited by hedonkop: Feb 7 2010, 02:31 PM

dude seriously...you'd rather spend a thousand on a pairi of pre-wash distress jeans rather than spending it on a pair of brand new, un-treated, non-distressed jeans that wont last as long compared to a brand new raw? its like u spend more on a second hand car which is already worn out rather then spending less on a brand new one..its like buying a second hand BMW which has not been taken care off, that is falling apart waiting for the days to crumble rather then buying the latest brand new BMW model fresh from the show room or may be the factory...

why i would rather spend more on a pair of raw that would not 'fit me at first' which will be snug fit and would loosen up a week after is the way it should be coz...u would buy a jeans that would fit you rather than buying a pair that would not, i.e that is loose...coz buying raw jeans that is tight or fitting at first would result in a perfect fit that would confirm to ur body shape...imagine if u buy a pre wash fit that is in the beggining fits u slightly loose...would be even more looser as u wear them? would it not fit u perfectly on ur body after a few wear? and it being pre wash how can u ever possibly make it fit u again by washing the jeans as it wont shrink down at all?? plus if you buy a raw pair it would last you a life time rather than buying a pre-washed distressed jeans that has a lesser life span of may be half or more than half compared to a brand new raw pair...

and you would rather spend your buck on true religion and 7 jeans rather then the ever superior levi's LVC that is the true classic that started it all?? my gosh u better get ur info and knowledge straight son reason why i said so is...if you really wanna go into this denim culture u have to start seeking for all this info... and to the denim enthusiast and their argument being very logical is that, lemme make it easier for a term to be shortened and to be easily understand...true religion and 7 jeans are crappy shitty designer wanna be premium jeans that rips off customer's money with their ever high price but lacking in quality... Levis LVC being expensive is considered naturally occurring phenomenon..they started it all and if u wanna compare the quality in superiority, LVC has the upper hand compared to true religion or 7 jeans...honestly all the other designer brands are wannabes...Levi's keeping it true and having the best material built in them is something compared to true religion or 7 jeans that has 'nothing' built in them if u wanna compare it...unless u wanna compare evisu and true religion or 7 jeans i can say you should pick evisu but go for the raw japan made or at least the heritage or the numbered selvage ones like the no1 or no2 etc etc...do not go for the EU ones..to tell u the truth the eu ones is not suppose to cost you a bomb like above 1k...the EU ones are the shittiest evisu line...somewhat the same status as the evisu X puma...

to make it easier for u to know which brand are considered premium denim are the ones that are known to be japanese brand denim like samurai, sugar cane, denime, flathead, iron heart, momotaro, doubeworks, Edwin, rbj, japanese evisu, pbj, etc etc...these denim can be compared to Levi's LVC...the reason why japanese denim and japanese denim brand is the most superior denim compared to others is a whole different story which i assume you guys are able to look for it yourselves.....so premium denim can be rated as such, beggining with the japanese denim makers being on top (and perhaps LVCs are catogoraized here as well, correct me if im worng), then non-japanese brand denim which uses japanese selvage material such as naked and famous, APC, nudie, dr denim, etc etc,,,brands like true religion, 7 for all mankind, ed hardy, etc etc are considered last or not even being in the category of premium denim at all to some denim enthusiasts. in other words these brands like true riligion etc etc are, once more, wannabe premium denim brand and to some would call it 'posers'. They are hyped up just becoz of celebrities rock them and not becoz of pure quality and soul of the denim...i.e they are expensive purely becoz of the fact that they are designers and not becoz of the quality they possessed..

but then again in the end its up to u and ur preferences...if u like true religion and all these designer brands with no quality then go for it...if u like these japanese premium denim that has quality in them then go for it...but its up to u to decide and its up to ur wisdom as well...spend your money wisely...think about it yourself peace guys

ps..japanese premium line, levis LVC, and the non japanese brand denim brand that both uses japanese selvage are considerd superior compared to the wanna be premium designer denim brands like true religion are so is becoz these premium denim brands uses japanese made selvage denim and american made selvage cone denim whch are the best in the world...God knows about the material used in brands like true religion, 7 jeans, ed hardy, evisu EU, evisu puma etc etc uses in their denim...and plus having the low quality denim material build in them and for the fact that they are pre-washed and distressed?? my gosh imagine how low the quality of the jeans would be after all the distressing...how easy it would break!! would u spend 800 bucks or so on something that would break easily compared to raw denim? think about it...

nice post treflip...

love the way you explain it

Wow Treflip !! Thanks for the informative reply !! You rock. Finally, after much research, I can finally see a proper information on Raw Jeans.

Don't say peace out or something. I'm not angry nor pissed off. Also, you're kind enough to take your time typing the wall of text to enlighten me. Aisk, but I just spend RM1k on a Pre-wash Evisu. So, is mine a Japan or an EU one? Where to find Japanese Evisu which is RAW ? I have some savings and CNY is coming soon. May just get another pair.

Now, I see the worth in Levi's LVC. Where can we get see more RAW Jeans as in inventory in retail stores? I'm located in Kuala Lumpur as I'm a student pursuing my studies in here. But, every 2 weeks, I will go back to Johor Bahru for the weekend. I may just drop by Singapore for a walk or something since it is so near to my place. *40 minutes drive if no jam*

Care to drop me some places to check it out? I can also tell you guys what's available there. Orchard or somewhere else. You just name it.

PS: Dang you awesome people, now I'm thinking of buying another pair of Evisu's.

BIG THANKS TO TREFLIP AS WELL!!!

No no..peace just a phrase i alwasy use la bro..its another way for me to say 'signing off'....well its ok that u bought the pre wash evisu..but whats done is done..so just rock it till its really broken into...urs i think is not the japan nor th eeu one...the eu one has the eu written on the leather patch..yours is most probably made in maccau...all i know u can only get japanese made evisu, well in japan of course...or u can get them from the blue in green webstore online or u visit the blue in green store itself in new york as they are the only one in the states that brings in japanese made evisu...i think may be they are the only online store besides japan site that carry japanese made evisu...other than that evisu's are either made in maccau or china or italy..etc etc...in kl the only good one for me is the levi's LVC..other than that there is oen shop in bangsar called juice which carry's in japanese brand street wear stuff like head porter and such and they also have this one raw denim by head porter plus....but since u alwasy go back to JB and always go to singapore than ur best bet is get them in singapore...u can go to queen's couture, front row, the lawn etc etc..they stock up good jeans..and also u can always visit uniqlo and get them all japan made raw selvage jeans for a good decent price...rather then buying evisu i recommend you contact this dude and visit his thread..he can help u get better jeans like the flat heads etc etc

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1254494&hl=

Argh DANG !! Me and my whole family just went for 1 week holiday in JAPAN during the lest december. Travel around Tokyo, Kyoto and Osaka. Ginza, Tokyo is the place you find most branded stuff. Including the famous Japan only "Burberry Black Label". My cousin bought a Trench Coat there. Around 70000 yen++.

Only now I know more about Jeans. Damn . How I wish I see this thread earlier. How to see whether the Evisu is a Japanese Evisu a not?? Hmm..

I stay around Bangsar. The Juice shop is the Edison Chen one right?? I'll go take a look.

UNIQLO!!?? I love shopping for tee's there. SDG15 can get you a good T-Shirt. Some more, chances of wearing the same T-Shirt with Malaysians are almost zero. I think I went to ION Orchard Uniqlo. Din't know they have some good jeans there.

yea i get my tee's and work shirts from uniqlo too...man u should have gone to uraharajuku when u were in tokyo...i bsacially spend one whole day there going from one shop to another...went to their APC store...the supreme store...man...u could have visit kaihara and buy your own roll of selvage denim hehehe

treflip, i'd rep you 100000x times if such function exists. for the dope explanations up there. it should be quoted on first page!

shameless plug, 8 months, couple of rain soaks. cane std denim 1947

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back

nice work bro...but why the front color seems different? the color has fade to more greenish..

btw, your belt look awesome with the canes what belt is it?

This post has been edited by hedonkop: Feb 7 2010, 07:55 PM

damnn!!!! ur canes looking good!! one question...ur canes is a one wash/rinse or pure raw? i am wondering if one wash ones can be easily creased and fade out...and one more time...ur canes looks awesome!! and i agree with hedonkop...it seems like a greencast denim...

its 1947 raw. im not sure myself about the greenish color.. could it be the lighting? lol what concerns me more is the sudden bright patch on the lower right back. ?_?

hedonkop, its a timb leather belt. pretty good quality.

lastly, thanks for the compliments guys. rock on!