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post Mar 27 2010, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(gfunk11 @ Mar 27 2010, 11:52 PM)
Where can I find this? ML Pontos Chronographe Sport Full Black? How much does it retail for? RM10k++? What sort of discount can I expect? Thinking of getting this for my wedding (in a couple of months time)  smile.gif
I think I did state its retailing ~RM12k, discount ~25%. where to get it, no idea.. u can try the AD around u.. if they don't have it can always try to order.

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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Mar 27 2010, 10:34 PM)
wow after discounted Louis Erard also need $2573...got to reconsider
Omega VS TH...Still cant make up my mind...

What are the retail price for:
1) Seamaster Aqua Terra Chronograph
2) Speedmaster HB-SIA Co-Axial GMT Chronograph [ I prefer this ]  smile.gif

Thanks alot

p/s: not many ppl looting on Omega watches? I see more Tag fans here  whistling.gif
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Louis Erard will need more than $2573 if U get thru AD.

1) US$4350 to US$7400 (gold version)
2) US$8600


omega generally cost more.. thats why...
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QUOTE(gfunk11 @ Mar 28 2010, 12:04 AM)
Thanks Bro!

Have searched around & can't seem to find it just yet. If i run out of time, might just order it.

But I am undecided with the  Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra Chronograph (steel on leather) http://www.omegawatches.com/gents/seamaste.../23113445206001

What do you reckon this will cost? Discount around 25% possible?
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2 complication.. chrono + GMT not going to be cheap.
that omega would retail US$8500 or ~RM28k.. today maybe around 20%.. 25% maybe hard..
paying that much can get a nice pre-own Rolex explorer II
http://www.ebronzeage.com/watches/watch_de...exist_cat=Rolex

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QUOTE(kingsing84 @ Mar 28 2010, 12:08 AM)
Hi Bro..
i got a Hamilton SWAT Edition Khaki Field Multi-Touch.. finally the batt is dead. i send to every shops..to replace the batt seems no one knows how to open the cover.

any bros here can tell me where should it to change batt.
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on the warranty card should tell U which service centre to go to.
would cost more, but rest assured u get the job done right.

if not just go hamilton website can search, or u can call up AD to find out where can u get it done.
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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Mar 28 2010, 01:09 AM)
Hi, newbie here. i love diver watches and my dream watch is Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean. BUT, i just can't afford it. I own a Citizen Promaster NY0040-17L

i'd like to add a few more automatic diver watches, particularly from Seiko, Citizen and Orient. Anybody knows where I can find some good wide selections of these watches in KL and Selangor? I've only found some Seiko Kinetic divers, but I'm looking for the automatic ones instead.
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those Seiko Jap made.. I know many ppl got them online thru the below
eg
http://www.seiyajapan.com/c=iHGck19d3Hd91v...iko_mechanical/
http://www.higuchi-inc.com/

orient divers many are Sub design..
http://www.orientwatchusa.com/collection.php?c=16


if u have more $$ can afford some swiss they generally cost ~US$500.. great deal..
http://www.ocean7watchco.com/cs1/
http://www.mkiiwatches.com/
http://guinand-watch.com/index.php?option=...id=21&Itemid=51

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Mar 28 2010, 01:24 AM)
i have small wrists so i prefer to try them on my wrist before buying. also, it's always nicer to hold the actual watches in your hand, right? i'm familiar with seiyajapan, but have never bought anything from them. is it safe buying online?
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al;ot of ppl bought from them its safe
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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Mar 28 2010, 01:39 AM)
terence, i've dreamed of owning a seamaster since high school. now, i still can't afford it sad.gif seamaster professional retails at RM10.5k, planet ocean retails at RM11.9k. if only i can withdraw my EPF to fund my watch purchase


Added on March 28, 2010, 1:41 am

any chance of being stopped by our customs, tax related matters? do we have to collect from them and pay some taxes? or is it tax-free?
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customs and tax.. U can read all about all here..
http://tamhk.com/mwf/index.php?action=printpage;topic=56.0
http://forums.ebay.com.my/thread.jspa?threadID=500001197

khopl and ck77 got stuff online page they post their purchases
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/873745/+1440
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/873745/+1420


get a preown seamaster, the design didn't change much and u get to spend less money.
esp those mid size 36mm auto seamasters preown can go around RM3.5K. new go around ~rm7.5K
or if U can find those pre co-axle watches discounts can be steeper.


Added on March 28, 2010, 5:34 amspotted a Louis Erard dress watch (40mm) at 70% off
- priced at SG$485 or ~RM1.1k
http://www.jwwatch.com/showpro_details.asp?id=21&cat=142
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Added on March 28, 2010, 5:48 am
QUOTE(terencetoo @ Mar 28 2010, 01:32 AM)
Thanks for the speedy replied bro.
Appreciate that  thumbup.gif

Never know the nice Omega watches that i like cost so much.
I though the price roughly cost around TH Calibre 16 but lesser than Calibre 36  sweat.gif
Anyway guess im going to drop off these 2 models...

1) Lower end Omega
2) TH Calibre 16
3) Oric BC4
4) ML Pontos Chronographe
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haha... I would drop Oris BC4 for sure from the list in a heart beat.
in fact I would go for a Entry level auto Omega

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Mar 28 2010, 08:25 AM)
thanks patryn! very helpful links. but would you happen to know any shops in KL/Selangor that carry good selections of Seiko Prospex or Marinemaster, Citizen Promaster, and Orient Professional Diver? i've got mine from my hometown, but very few choices.
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don't know, I live in US for many yrs now..
Isn't Seiko Prospex auto not cheap? ~US$600-700 or am I wrong?
for that price.. I rather get a Guinand G-330M (German brand owned by Sinn Founder, used to make Sinn watches, maybe Bell and Ross too in the past)
http://www.guinand-watch.com/
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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Mar 28 2010, 09:03 AM)
OH!! you live in the US! no wonder lah... some prospex models cost thousands of dollars, and some are only hundreds of dollars. depends i guess. i've checked out the links about customs you gave earlier. seems like the risks are IF the customs decide to squeeze some money out of you, and hijackers. and also how the goods are handled during shipment.

about MkII and Guinard. are there authorized service centers in malaysia? i've always wondered about brands that are available overseas but not here. if we buy them online and have them shipped here, once there's a problem, where do we take them to? i've been looking at Marathon SAR watches.
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a few hundreds of dollars.. thats still a good US$600-700. ya there are those that cost above US$2K.. with that $$ I would get a Seiko Spring Drive.

anyway.. if U ship by DHL/Fedex and declare the full amount, even hijackers they are insured.. item lost these company pay u back the full amount.
as for those corrupted customs officer.. can't help.

there are malaysian who have got from online retailer such as Stowa, they are like Guinand only sell online. if u visit WUS, maybe can get their experience.
iirc silverstan here also ordered a Stowa. yenfoolun may had ordered from Stowa too.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.ph...467364#poststop

these brands do not have service centres in Malaysia.
Guinand and Stowa don't have service centre here in USA too, so far not seen anyone on Watchuseek/timezone/watchnet complain of problems. QC must be very good. after warranty U can always take it to regular watchmaker to get it service. ck77 maybe able to recommend U.
as for MKII, its US brand but swiss made only have 1 service centre in USA.. problems.. don't recall seeing any thread on WUS.

Marathon SAR - their Auto watches are currently sold out.. nice deal too US$700

OZ made diver watch on Soprod A-10, very good bargain too. usually Soprod movements are found in swiss watches that cost above US$3K
http://www.orangewatchcompany.com/milsub/index.php

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Mar 28 2010, 10:32 AM)
customs... sigh... i once bought an AGV helmet from ebay. the item was marked as GIFT, so should be no tax whatsoever. when it arrived in KLIA and checked by the customs, the withheld the package on the ground that the helmet had no SIRIM approval, although it had all international safety compliance. eventually, the customs officer said he could release the package but i would have to pay the tax. huh? what tax? it was a gift. finally, had to pay 10% of the value.
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what to do... life here is so.. $$ went to his pocket..


Added on March 28, 2010, 8:29 pm
QUOTE(nando @ Mar 28 2010, 12:03 PM)
hahah....no way the Oris BC4 can compete with the Omegas and rest...price range also different..
hm.....i saw something better than the Louis Erard you recommended from JW...
a pre-loved Sinn Regulator....almost 3 years old, at 65% of retail price...hmmmm..nice
http://www.jwwatch.com/showpro_details.asp?id=32&cat=202
well... Sinn price also good.. ~4X of NOS Louis Erard price...


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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Mar 28 2010, 09:13 PM)
Guys went to Hour Glass n some other high end watch shop.
Spotted this on the display

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IWC...i was trying to peak the price right behind on the right side. [black IWC]
Seems nice..guess exp though  sweat.gif
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is that the IWC Portuguese Perpetual calendar 18K rose gold? thats like US$31.5K retail!


Added on March 28, 2010, 10:06 pm
QUOTE(Xerone @ Mar 28 2010, 09:17 PM)
What is your favourite type of watch? I don't mean affordable or not, just the design in general.

Mine has to be one with lots of complications and a white face with little ornamental jewelleries. I seem to like Franck Muller;s long island series a lot. Again, all this is just a dream cause i can't afford it... yet. =)
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lots of complication? Franck Muller long island have real simple quartz ones . have a pic to show?

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Mar 28 2010, 11:15 PM)
i used to love chronographs. then lost interest and switched my preference towards diver's watch. i agree that that LE is very nice, but not my cup of tea. been looking at MKII and Marathon. the Marathon SAR reeks of manly testosterone
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Marathon SAR
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somehow I like this Debaufre .. waiting for the scratch and dent sale
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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Mar 29 2010, 12:02 AM)
check this out! the Marathon CSAR is huge! on the top is a Rolex GMT Master
thats a chrono....
regular auto CSAR is ~14mm thick

jumbo size is at 46.6mm and 17mm thick.. then its a quartz
Tried on the Breitling 46mm on Friday its big but it don't sit well and kinda light


this looks like an Omega and huge at 55mm by 42mm and 17mm thick
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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Mar 29 2010, 12:21 AM)
SORRY. i wanted to say JSAR. that's a JSAR in the picture. CSAR is the same size as JSAR. http://www.broadarrow.net/sale.htm

C stands for Chrono i guess. J for Jumbo
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how can that be a JSAR in the pic? the front look is like this, 1 crown on the side.. the pic do show another 2 push buttons..
I think U meant to say its a CSAR in the pic... for a CSAR it cost US$2700! might as well go for your Omega Seamaster
then a quartz for US$475 not really cheap.

else for a Chrono I would go for a Guinand... blue crews decorated and gold plated. packaging also nice. just not as big.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=158528

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QUOTE(2611 @ Mar 28 2010, 11:28 PM)
Any review on BALL FIREMAN 2 ?

Saw someone selling at other forum for rm1.9k (used but in great condition)
its a Ball, don't have to worry..


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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Mar 29 2010, 12:30 AM)
eh, silly me! must be too tired to think straight. just got back from house hunting. anyway, JSAR n CSAR are of the same size. no, not considering the CSAR definitely.
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nice review on Marathon SAR. thinking of the JSAR? thought U thinking for only Auto
http://forums2.watchuseek.com/showthread.p...356165#poststop


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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Mar 29 2010, 12:43 AM)
no, not JSAR. JSAR is quartz. furthermore it's huge! my wrist is only 6". thinking of GSAR or MSAR. anyway, how reliable are MKII or Marathon? read some negative reviews on Marathons
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not seen any.. maybe I didn't check too carefully.. u can try searching on their forum
http://forums.watchuseek.com/forumdisplay.php?f=325

have U seen those Boschett? 44mm 16.5mm in height starts at US$650
http://www.boschett-timepieces.com/collect...wellerswiss.php

http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=235543
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http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=344362
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http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=361173
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QUOTE(zajun80 @ Mar 29 2010, 09:15 AM)
Hai, just want to ask anyone ever have bought watches from danven (lyn members)?
He is also selling luxury watches  biggrin.gif 
his link here..

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1133705&hl=

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should PM those who asked for quotes..
so far seem like only seoncss has bought from him..
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QUOTE(gfunk11 @ Mar 30 2010, 12:02 AM)
Watch survey today based on the 3 am really thinking about:

1. ML Pontos Chronographe Sport Full Black (RM11,400)
   - Discount around 25-30% or so
   - Nice watch & really light, but it's rather small for me (43mm). This is a disappointment  sad.gif

2. ML Pontos Chronographe Valgranges (RM14,900)
   - 47mm, NICE!  rclxms.gif
   - Discount around 25-30% more or less
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3. Omega Aqua Terra Chrono GMT (RM28k)
   - Discount max 20%
   - As of April 01 2010 All Omega Watches prices will increase 5-8% dependent on models  vmad.gif

4. Chopard 1000 Miglia GT XL Chrono Split Second Speed Black (RM48k)
   - Discount max 10%
   - Damn nice watch, but too damn expensive...  rclxub.gif

Have allot of scouting around to do still. Am content with the 2nd item above (ML Pontos Chronographe Valgranges). But just wanna take a look at Fortis & Mido. Ball ain't my cup of tea cause they're all between 42-44mm. I'm best off with 45-47mm or so. Have a big hand...  icon_rolleyes.gif

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I doubt mido have anything for U largest usually 44mm. iirc Fortis are all in 42mm

I would drop Chopard in a heartbeat! Mod ETA movement not really worth that kinda money. Might as well go for Omega or go with Graham or better yet a Zenith Defy!

Alpina U get big watches
- Alpina Avalanche Extreme Regulator 48mm retail US$2790
- Auto Chrono AL-850BB4FBAE6 46mm ~US$4K

Edox
- Class 1 Auto Chronooffshore 45mm ~US$3.6k

Graham
- Chronofighter Rac Trigger 46mm
- Swordfish 46mm Automatic Chronograph
http://www.collectorstime.com/other_EH.php#graham

Breitling
- BREITLING AEROMARINE SUPEROCEAN HERITAGE CHRONO 46mm US$4310

Ferrari Chrono by Panerai are usually 45mm. get preown and its ~US$4k.
http://www.visiotime.com/index.php?page=Product&id=25
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Corum Admiral’s Cup usually in 48mm

Zenith Defy! can get a Chrono + Pwr Res. its big and heavy.. mine Defy at 43mm already weights a good 200grams
http://www.collectorstime.com/zenith.php
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QUOTE(CHiNO730 @ Mar 30 2010, 02:08 AM)
Beautiful details from a not so mainstream watchmaker at a good price.  Blued steel hands and arabic numerals, genuine silver face details, and a pretty cool retrograde, power reserve and seconds complication.  Also has standard AR coating, and an exhibition back.

I accidently dropped this watch in '08 on the same teak hardwood floor photographed and busted the movement.  All this marketing about the Incabloc Shock Protection blah blah, but it couldn't withstand the acceleration of 9.8m/sec2 from torso height.  A month in the shop and RM ~1000 to fix. =/

Uses a heavily modified Unitas 6498-1 base movement which Maurice LaCroix calls the ML76 calibre.  Very audible tick-tick-tick from the escapement.  About 39mm face.  I switched the black leather strap with a brown crocodile strap - looks really appropriate with the white face.
Here are some watches I am considering:

Bell & Ross BR03-51 GMT
- love the carbon fiber and titanium case.  Tried on a similar sized BR03 two years ago and fell in love.
IWC Portuguese Chronograph - classic and timeless design, great brand reputation and easy to find watch and at a reasonable price.
Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean - with the orange bezel and orange strap, looks sporty, a bit loud, but beautiful.  Tried it on at least three times and various retailers and almost took it home each time.  Love the hands.  Comes in two sizes, but the larger 46mm is "monstrous" and looks ridiculous on me.  Smaller one (I think 42mm?) is perfect.  Excellent build quality, reliability and for the price, IMO better looking than any Rolex (except maybe the Daytona Chrono). =)


well... shock protection does not protect against such drop lah.. at most it a drop at waist level on oak floor, not teak.
Drop a Rolex and U may find the same thing happening! heck.. even Rolex's famous steel do rust!

BR3-51 - US$5K (very likely ETA 2893 but according to their website its adjusted to 4 position guess its Elaboré grade but they do more regulating)
IWC Portuguese Chronograph - US$6.8K on caliber 79350 (mod 7750)
Omega PO - ~US$3.9k

my vote goes to Omega for $$, value, design.. if $$ not of concern... IWC

IWC resale value not that great... preown sold for ~SGD$5K.
http://www.visiotime.com/index.php?page=Pr...tDetail&id=3735

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BaselWorld 2010: Sellita SW500 Chronograph (ETA 7750 'clone')
http://www.swisstime.ch/pgs/rwi-pgs-prod-l...n-idp-2042.html

Automatic chronograph
SW500 13 ¼ ’’’ calibre
25 jewels
28,800 vib/h (4 Hz)

Diameter: 30.00 mm
Height: 7.90 mm
Hours, minutes, small seconds
Automatic ball-bearing winding-mechanism
60-second chronograph
30-minute and 12-hour counters
Date and day, corrector
Stop-second device

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