its non negotiable. I know someone on WUS that had shop with them. wanted to get the LE Zenith but its rubber and blue, not something classic..
good review, smooth transaction. one of the few grey market dealers that provide dealer stamp warranty card.

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Added on February 7, 2010, 5:12 amwhats your budget?
auto or quartz?
if U are rough with watches get longines conquest with Ceramic Bezel. its cost ~US$1k. U would not find scratch on bezel

some brands to look at
- Mk2 http://www.mkiiwatches.com/
- Steinhart http://www.steinhartwatches.de/
- orange watch company http://www.orangewatchcompany.com/
- ocean7 http://www.ocean7watchco.com/cs1/ ( prices start from us$499)
- http://www.guinand-watch.com/ (owned by Sinn founder)
- Bernhardt http://www.bernhardtwatch.com/
- DAVOSA http://www.davosawatches.com/
- d.freemont http://www.dfreemontwatches.com/

This post has been edited by patryn33: Feb 7 2010, 09:49 AM

cheap ass? not really.. it cost us$313..
http://www.amazon.com/Victorinox-Swiss-Arm...8/dp/B00197KNX2
http://www.watchwear.com/victorinox-swiss-army/241148/

Hamilton, ESQ, Christopher ward are also good buy
http://www.thewatchery.com/Hamilton/Watch/H64512132
www.christopherward-usa.com/watches-sale.html

get thru AD this price is norm
swiss army and victorinox quality same same I think.

the current design looks retro to me.

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Added on February 8, 2010, 11:35 amjust get it since u like it. I think U are attracted to the red dial.
if U look at value for money.. at this price range 1.2k and wanna a chrono.. i think Seiko, Orient more value for money.


This post has been edited by patryn33: Feb 8 2010, 11:35 AM

oh... i thought u didn't like mkii b4...

so fast scratch the Glycine already... its on mineral glass? not sapphire?

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Added on February 9, 2010, 9:15 amcongrats do share pics, give your 2cents review

This post has been edited by patryn33: Feb 9 2010, 09:15 AM

Ball do mod some of their ETA movement.
Ball or Tag... BALL!!!!!!!!!!!
build quality pretty much same same... some guy here went diving with his ball and found water condensing inside. still under warranty so went in to get it fixed.

99% of the joes here not going for replica... wrong thread

Ball or Tag.. prices thru AD are controlled... at most u find discount vary 1-4% depending on sales person.
so long u getting thru D.. their prices are fair..
thru gray market dealers.. support local.. go collectorstime.com

This post has been edited by patryn33: Feb 9 2010, 09:21 AM

spotted a cheap LE watch on http://www.collectorstime.com/new-watches.php

Alpina PVD 12 Hour of Sebring Limited limited series of 257 pieces priced under 6.2k
big watch 48mm case
http://www.watchtime.com/2009/03/alpina-12...-of-sebring-le/
http://www.sebringraceway.com/alpina.lasso

nice video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6lfTnaALG8



This post has been edited by patryn33: Feb 9 2010, 12:01 PM

Oops my bad.. bad memory..
for the price u paid for a Glycine can get a MKII right? since MKii starts at around US$615. custom build better yet regulated to 6 positions.
unlike most watches at this price range only regulated to 3 positions
I am those ppl if ask me to pay > US$400 for a non sapphire crystal.. its a big No-No

This post has been edited by patryn33: Feb 10 2010, 10:39 AM

Omega speedmaster, NASA requirement.
Acrylic crystal still easy to polish off.
mineral crystal not easy man.. it cost more $$ to replace too

try a Orient Watch.
http://www.orientwatchusa.com/collection.php?c=11
http://www.orient-watch.com/product/classic_automatic/

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Added on February 12, 2010, 11:04 amcongrats! 1st watch in your big order that arrive?



This post has been edited by patryn33: Feb 12 2010, 11:04 AM

do give a review of the places U had shopped at.

couldn't afford a Co-axle Omega, here is a alternative Sinn!

75X series come with this new Diapal escapement. although the movement is 7750, one don't have to service that frequently.
http://www.timezone.com/library/news/news631878440051250000
http://www.watchbuys.com/store/pc/viewContent.asp?idpage=76
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=594

Jap try: Seiko, Orient
Russian try: Vostok Europe, Aviator, Poljot
Swiss:
- Mk2 http://www.mkiiwatches.com/
- Steinhart http://www.steinhartwatches.de/ (German Brand Swiss made)
- ocean7 http://www.ocean7watchco.com/cs1/ ( prices start from us$499)
- Bernhardt http://www.bernhardtwatch.com/ (US brand swiss heart)
- d.freemont http://www.dfreemontwatches.com/
- Vollmer U5 (46.5mm x 16.5mm maybe the largest around)
http://www.watchseller.com/vollmeru5.html
- Aristo Pilot watch also big at 46mm
http://www.gnomonwatches.com/images/Aristo3h1092L.jpg

This post has been edited by patryn33: Feb 17 2010, 11:32 AM

red army!!! however their prices very high.. might as well get online on sites such as http://www.russia2all.com/
http://www.redarmywatches.com/contact.asp

must be those mushroom brands.. using china movement..
I wouldn't touch it if I were U esp at that kinda price.

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Added on February 18, 2010, 10:30 amPAM homage... how is it working out?

This post has been edited by patryn33: Feb 18 2010, 10:30 AM

so much discount going on for a limited edition quartz. on the official site its going for US$1195
http://us.burberry.com/product/index.jsp?p...eds_google_base

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Added on February 19, 2010, 10:59 amno 2k tag Heuer that is mechanical.
2k can find Tissot, Hamiltion, Swiss Army
oris... I have to say its not easy to find 1 at that budget.

willing to shop online brands.. much to choose from.
Swiss:
- Mk2 http://www.mkiiwatches.com/
- Steinhart http://www.steinhartwatches.de/ (German Brand Swiss made)
- ocean7 http://www.ocean7watchco.com/cs1/ ( prices start from us$499)
- Bernhardt http://www.bernhardtwatch.com/ (US brand swiss heart)
- d.freemont http://www.dfreemontwatches.com/
- Vollmer U5 (46.5mm x 16.5mm maybe the largest around)
http://www.watchseller.com/vollmeru5.html
- Aristo Pilot watch also big at 46mm
http://www.gnomonwatches.com/images/Aristo3h1092L.jpg
- Aristo Pam hommy also pretty nice.
http://www.gnomonwatches.com/Aristo3h107c.html
- Archimede Pilot 42mm
http://www.gnomonwatches.com/archimedePilotFliegerkrone.html
- willing to order and wait for months go with Stowa!!!! I have to say quality maybe better than Oris/Tissot/hamilton
http://www.german-watches.com/cgi-bin/lshop.cgi

model and prices on tissot
http://www.shoptissot.com/

the other brands google around. no way to list u everything under the sun. esp u are not providing much details eg
- diver watch?
- size?
- feature... date? chrono?
- dial color?
- blue screws on movement?

This post has been edited by patryn33: Feb 19 2010, 12:00 PM

these got to be crazy big! 47mm and see thru back! swiss made and blue screws. don't think U can find anything similar on brands such as Swiss Army.
http://www.ocean7watchco.com/cs1/index.php...s&product_id=70
http://www.ocean7watchco.com/cs1/index.php...s&product_id=47
http://www.ocean7watchco.com/cs1/index.php...s&product_id=64

This post has been edited by patryn33: Feb 19 2010, 12:12 PM

will u be diving? is so take the Hamilton.

Junkers, Hamilton do nothing with their 7750. just get the 1 the design or price please u.
Mido decorate the movement more.
http://www.watchwear.com/mido/M0056141603101/

if pay RM4500, i rather get a Guinand ( guinand-watch.com ) series 20 or 21, same grade 7750, nicely finish/decorated too.
owned by Sinn founder, can't go wrong with quality and value for $$! a review on the 40 series claim watch only gain 1-2 secs a day. My Hamilton on 7750 more like 4secs.
U can find alot of love from WUS forumers.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.ph...ghlight=Guinand


This post has been edited by patryn33: Feb 21 2010, 04:51 AM

Jean Richard make great watches. JR 1000 is their 1st inhouse movement and irrc they didn't even rely on their famous sister company Girard-Perregaux!! unlike other lux brands such as JLC, A Lange etc they didn't do much decorative finishing.
got 1 older model for my sibling a yr ago, movement is base off ETA (compare it with a Oris, the base ETA movement already so much better, not to mentioned on a Jean Richard its Mod). resale value is weak but U are getting a good watch (inhouse movement with power reserve, date, regulator style) for little money.

a nice review on the movement
http://www.thepurists.net/patrons/members/wsw/jr/index.html

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Added on February 21, 2010, 3:20 amhow much did it cost u to get it fix? how much did they refund U? 20% of the cost of the watch?

This post has been edited by patryn33: Feb 21 2010, 03:20 AM

collectorstime is no AD.
its gray market!!!!! in gray markets discount can be as steep as 80% off retail. In fact that JR watch I only paid US$350+, comes with everything.. packaging (instructional manual and warranty card) certainly looks expensive.

if U had done a satisfying gray marketing shopping b4, u wouldn't go back to AD.

This post has been edited by patryn33: Feb 21 2010, 09:03 PM