today I think Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra got the 8500 movement, with time maybe u see it in more models.
then again with time... prices go up too!!!

are U the kind who love 10 3K watches vs 1 30K watch?


This post has been edited by patryn33: Mar 3 2010, 09:32 AM

everyone is bounded by economically and by monthly commitments (family, house mortgage, etc etc).
anyway my pt is are U the kind who will get a few entry level swiss made watches (oris, Ball, Tag etc) or a mid Lux watch (Omega, Cartier)
RM300 a bit too extreme here.. a few 3-5 RM3-4k over 1 RM12-20K.



die hard collector would have brunch off to vintage watches and collect a certain type of watches.
I have see a die hard collector showing me a tin box filled with military style watches, some cheap like those Hamilton others a JLC/IWC. all no strap just case and further more free to bang at each other. that really wow me.

pyramid taken from http://www.europastar.com/europastar/searc...t_id=1003545084
sorry forget to cite the source.

me family and kids come 1st.. watch is last on my list. perhaps the next watch I'll get is a Rolex Datejust for my spouse. Need to replace her oris.

alot of watches can me on collectorstime for super long time. Econ bad how many ppl do drop $$ like no one biz.

me? I always wanted Omega Seamaster James bond blue to replace my old Tag.. but in the end I still got my Zenith Defy Pwr res.
me no love for cartier. Chopard maybe just the LUC collection!! all inhouse movement, plus if they every improve the movement your watch will get the improvement when u take it in for servicing. thats service!

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Added on March 3, 2010, 8:10 pmqns: thats a hard qns, too board.

qns 2: I think cause not many brands out there make ladies watch at this price range. either a Rolex, Zenith, Ulysse Nardin, Perrelet.. non traditional perhaps?

qns 3: confuse? just go with your heart and what u could afford.

qns 4: ML does come with chrono. pontos collection is the entry level.. ML 112 based 7750.

another black on black watch. not PVD but black ceramic.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=358171
http://watches.infoniac.com/pontos-chronog...full-black.html


a pic of the ML 112, not much decoration compare to those in masterpiece collection. U just missed the big 50% sale event off their masterpiece.
http://watch-happening.blogspot.com/2009/0...oix-pontos.html


This post has been edited by patryn33: Mar 3 2010, 08:15 PM

well... it could still mean the workers working on IWC Portuguese Chronograph (IIRC its a heavily mod 7750) is doing a better job regulating the watch than those working on Portuguese Automatic (calibre 5000) with in-house movement. diff ppl meant they wear it differently. a small sample size does not prove anything. diff btw +1 and +3 isn't that big of a deal anyway. so long its constantly do so.
http://people.timezone.com/msandler/Articl...000/Review.html

likewise those ppl who claim watch XYZ is within COSC specs, iirc I read a guru post stating its a empty claim. to be strict COSC U got to test in various positions and varies temp... and yada yada.. heck its a forum, just take it as pinch of salt.

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Added on March 4, 2010, 8:29 amML 112 is found in something round. Didn't the pic on the movement in a round case?
as for rect/square watch is for those looking for a PVD.

Oris is like a Louis Erard. maybe alittle better than Hamilton.

my love still goes out to Guinand if one seeks a good value for $$ 7750. Helmut Sinn founder of Sinn owns it today. love the philosophy of keeping prices down!
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.ph...ghlight=guinand
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=158528

Maurice Lacroix which range? pontos Chronographe Valgranges ? retail ~RM$15.5k
Longines Grande Vitesse (on rubber/leather) retail ~RM$8k.
somehow I find Longines Spirit kinda cool, i heard this line is discontinued.

I think something like this also no bad. ~rm$13k, for some reason gray market is letting it go at 50%. maybe NOS.


PVD lovers! HAMILTON KHAKI X-MACH on 44mm case cheap retailing ~RM$6.5k also on 7750.


LOUIS ERARD La Sportive Classique. 42mm case. ~RM$9K retail



This post has been edited by patryn33: Mar 4 2010, 10:06 AM

In bold can provide a link to the post?

ETA move on supplying ebauche is a known fact. iirc ETA did officially release this new. no need IWC to confirm that.

interesting read on IWC for those interested. interesting, even if ETA don't sell ebauche, but complete movement. other watch company are still welcome to buy and mod them! its like Stowa buying complete movement and still take the time to tear them apart, go thru their internal inspection and then reassembling it back. U would think it would be easier to by ebauche, cut the time of having to take it apart,
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=256887

COSC didn't mean much even in the past. LOL...

ya.. ML seem to have increased the retail price.. but end up giving steep discount.. maybe can find 30%+ off!

the ML Pontos Chronographe Sport Full Black. maybe retailing ~RM$12K
http://www.sibaritissimo.com/maurice-lacro...ort-full-black/



Jazzmaster Maestro? like this??? the back of a unmod, undecorated 7750 behind Hamilton.
I still find the unmod blue screws, gold plated 7750 on Guinand darn pretty. price wise pretty close. if u can get on a super discount like I did for my Hamilton Khaki chrono then thats different case. btw I paid only ~RM$1.8K.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=158528



This post has been edited by patryn33: Mar 4 2010, 11:36 AM

thanks for the links to the info!!! good read!
on that WUS thread, someone look down on Seiko.. I would have to get my hands on 1 of those spring drive. mechanical watch with quartz kinda accuracy. whats wrong with a good seiko anyway, even Tag is using Seiko's movement design on all their future chrono watches.

my hammy... gray market!!!! haha... that time quite a few WUS member jump on this deal too.
not shop thru AD for a super long time already..
Guinand dial... limited design... small time watch maker..
nonetheless I like the series 20 and 40 design.

This post has been edited by patryn33: Mar 4 2010, 12:01 PM

go for a Nomos! ya it sucks no AD in the region. the sg AD do carry limited stocks too.
nomos back so pretty

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Added on March 4, 2010, 7:45 pmthey need to make $$$ since they do have a physical store.
when they import watches, aren't they taxed?

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Added on March 4, 2010, 7:49 pmdidn't I share it awhile back..
dealers ok to deal with (personal exp or fren's exp)
- overstock.com
- thewatchery.com
- ashford.com
- collectorstime.com
- jwwatch.com
- visiotime.com

a pre own tag Grand Carrera Calibre 36 RS chrono almost mint condition going for 60% off its retail (sgd$13900). seller must have suffer alot of damage selling it away at 65%-70% off its retail. new Tag discount is ~25% off retail.
http://www.visiotime.com/index.php?page=Pr...tDetail&id=3671

This post has been edited by patryn33: Mar 4 2010, 07:58 PM

Stowa!
don't wanna wait.. try
- Epos
- Frederique Constant
http://www.azfinetime.com/Frederique-Const...CFQ0eDQodY2_FZw
- Guinand series 90
http://guinand-watch.com/index.php?option=...=166&Itemid=402
- d.freemont
http://www.dfreemontwatches.com/new_yorker.htm

This post has been edited by patryn33: Mar 5 2010, 08:59 AM

nice classic, Seiko SARB030
http://www.seiyajapan.com/product/S-SARB03...15-SARB030.html

I gather u looking outside Tissot, Seiko .. have u looked at below brands?

can try Orient
http://www.orient-watch.com/product/index.html
http://www.roachman.com/orient/automatic.html
http://www.orientwatchusa.com/collection.php?c=14



hamilton this happens to be limited edition and its just us$261 or rm$880
http://www.thewatchery.com/Hamilton/Watch/H91459533


or maybe Choisi
http://www.ocean7watchco.com/cs1/index.php...&category_id=17


or russian
http://www.russia2all.com/shop-by-russian-...-100-to-199-p1/


This post has been edited by patryn33: Mar 7 2010, 10:01 AM

from WUS, Golana seem to have some quality issue. loose crown or what not.
Hamilton very safe bet.

not so expensive starts at ~RM$35K
http://www.watch-arena.com/watch-brands/vi...nde-kzkqkg.html


Epos, under rated brand... not much advertising going on, which is good. u're not paying for marketing.
they do make good reliable watches. like most entry level brands eg oris they use ETA movement.

didn't see any complains or complement out there should be alright.

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Added on March 9, 2010, 8:22 pmPP, Calatrava colection is manual wound. 50k maybe possible leather and no diamonds in white/yellow gold
Nautilus - quartz
twenty~4 - also a quartz
Gondolo - another quartz series
Aquanaut - yet another quartz series.


This post has been edited by patryn33: Mar 9 2010, 08:22 PM

patek is out then! I had listed the entire ladies collection and only 1 is mechanical (closest to a auto) the rest all quartz.

U think of AP tourbillon? is that USD$50K or UK$50K?

i hat to disagree with u, but u are darn right! just go to the official site and look.. thats not rocket science.

iirc laides AP only the royal oak chrono is in Auto, there is 1 series which is mechanical, the rest all quartz.
even for vacheron constantin ladies mostly quartz or mechanical. if mum don't mind men's design watches, maybe can find in AP, PP or VC but size would be ~39mm.

or go for Louis Moinet.
http://lmtime.com/watches/datoscope.php

A. Lange & Sohne Saxonia Automatik boy size 37mm white gold auto but priced ~rm$87k.

white gold, roman numbers, auto, size 30mm
Breguet Classique Automatic - Ladies (close to RM$50K)


This post has been edited by patryn33: Mar 11 2010, 09:42 AM

found lots of Pam here.. A Qns to those Pammy fans, why ppl love Pam but don't give the same kinda love to Ferrari?
http://www.visiotime.com/

oris, tag, mont blanc all don't have great 2nd hand value.
what kinda watch u looking at? chrono? diver? pwr res? moonphase? size?

get pre-own is the best.. if u looking at resale value

This post has been edited by patryn33: Mar 12 2010, 11:35 AM

wonder they get it bcoz of the history or mainly the hype.
ya they make Ferrari current collection, also limited in production however resale value is world's apart.
http://www.europastar.com/europastar/searc...t_id=1002236578

This post has been edited by patryn33: Mar 12 2010, 11:45 AM

another new ceramic submariner?
I thought these ceramic bezel are out back in 2009. what make these so special?
http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=104820
http://precisiontime.blogspot.com/2010/02/...submariner.html

This post has been edited by patryn33: Mar 12 2010, 11:49 AM