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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Dec 13 2008, 10:49 PM)
Thanks Cherroy.  notworthy.gif Like what you said their business might get hard hit due to higher inventory / stock pile. One more think is their debt to equity is about 0.5.
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At 0.5 is still a manageable ratio.

It could be a undervalued stock, if earning wise still showing a positive sign.

Its business is largely affected by oil price/natural gas, as those are the main raw ingredient in making their product (polymer, polymer resin)
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Dec 14 2008, 08:31 AM)
I thought you previously advised forumers to sell all their stocks during this period?  hmm.gif
TA securities has already predicted that KLSE will rally in Q1 '09.... possibly peak at 950-1050...

However, they also predicted that KLSE will then drop to new lows after that (around 550-770) in Q2-Q3 '09.... that would be a bad bad time to hold shares.... sleep.gif

Many people have also predicted that a bull run might be coming for the Dow (and other markets).... one even going to the extent of saying Dec 15 as the starting point!!!

Just remember that these are all predictions  wink.gif

For me, I plan to keep my stocks until KLSE rallies (if it ever does), then sell off in Q1 '09 while buying some defensive stocks (the stocks that don't drop much) while waiting to see what happens in Q2/Q3....
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Yes, we need to always adjust the trend as like we all need to go for lunch, but some ppl may go at 12pm, 1pm or 2pm, but the trend is still there. it is up to individual to go out at 1pm and come back at 2pm or go at 12pm and come back at 1pm only. some ppl tend to go out early with hope get the delicious food, but he/she may go back the same restaurant at 3pm because is hungry (eat too early), but the food is not that nice already. icon_idea.gif

Some stock is under value and it is good time to enter because the boss also want to sapu back their share, if not they also afraid of some one may hold there share and who know one day may influent the company decision making. Anything is possible in this world. Choice ur restaurant wisely. thumbup.gif rclxms.gif tongue.gif biggrin.gif smile.gif

Remember: there is no a specific time table for a investor/employer/boss to go out for their lunch. if you are worker/emplyee minded, go to use ur punch card for the lunch time. brows.gif

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QUOTE(sampoo @ Dec 14 2008, 01:27 PM)
Yes, we need to always adjust the trend as like we all need to go for lunch, but some ppl may go at 12pm, 1pm or 2pm, but the trend is still there. it is up to individual to go out at 1pm and come back at 2pm or go at 12pm and come back at 1pm only. some ppl tend to go out early with hope get the delicious food, but he/she may go back the same restaurant at 3pm because is hungry (eat too early), but the food is not that nice already. icon_idea.gif

Some stock is under value and it is good time to enter because the boss also want to sapu back their share, if not they also afraid of some one may hold there share and who know one day may influent the company decision making. Anything is possible in this world. Choice ur restaurant wisely.  thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif  tongue.gif  biggrin.gif  smile.gif

Remember: there is no a specific time table for a investor/employer/boss to go out for their lunch. if you are worker/emplyee minded, go to use ur punch card for the lunch time.  brows.gif
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I've done a bit of research and will probably go for these "restaurants" laugh.gif for the short term - LCL, KNM and maybe AIRPORT, mainly due to their potential for hugh capital gains. GAMUDA is another counter on my list due to their predicted high dividends for FY09 & FY10. Just that their shares prices have increased quite a bit.

Haven't decided on defensive stocks yet.... still have time for that.... Looking at Carlsberg, asiafile and PBBANK for their predicted high dividend FY09 & FY10. I'm holding some RESORTS share too, mainly for their potential capital gains too.....

@sampoo, so what restaurant are you going to? And what time is your lunch? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Dec 13 2008, 04:31 PM)
I thought you previously advised forumers to sell all their stocks during this period?  hmm.gif

Edit : I think a lot of us read news too and there are already many predictions that the Dow might rally soon.... we did not hear it from you first....
TA securities has already predicted that KLSE will rally in Q1 '09.... possibly peak at 950-1050...

However, they also predicted that KLSE will then drop to new lows after that (around 550-770) in Q2-Q3 '09.... that would be a bad bad time to hold shares.... sleep.gif

Many people have also predicted that a bull run might be coming for the Dow (and other markets).... one even going to the extent of saying Dec 15 as the starting point!!!

Just remember that these are all predictions  wink.gif

For me, I plan to keep my stocks until KLSE rallies (if it ever does), then sell off in Q1 '09 while buying some defensive stocks (the stocks that don't drop much) while waiting to see what happens in Q2/Q3....
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Hey buddy, my forecasts change daily base on price actions. You can ask guys that talk to me everyday and how i made them money on a daily basis. Sometimes we lose money, sometimes we win money; but my accuracy is much better than some of the traders here by far.

When i told the forum to sell at these period; it still holds true. IF you are a short term trader, you sell on rallies, buy on dips. If you want to be a long term trader, then one should long financials, long commodities, long carry trades. Why? You yourself will know why.

You don't have to listen, i am just talking ass but my close friends will vouch for my record in FX which is the most complicated financial instrument there is today. rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Dec 14 2008, 06:34 PM)
Hey buddy, my forecasts change daily base on price actions. You can ask guys that talk to me everyday and how i made them money on a daily basis. Sometimes we lose money, sometimes we win money; but my accuracy is much better than some of the traders here by far.

When i told the forum to sell at these period; it still holds true. IF you are a short term trader, you sell on rallies, buy on dips. If you want to be a long term trader, then one should long financials, long commodities, long carry trades. Why? You yourself will know why.

You don't have to listen, i am just talking ass but my close friends will vouch for my record in FX which is the most complicated financial instrument there is today.  rolleyes.gif  laugh.gif
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I have no doubt about your abilities and have no doubt that you are helping the forumers here as much as you can. However, you don't have to "carry your nose so high" (to put it mildly) as I'm sure many forumers here have noticed. Any advise is most welcomed and it would be very helpful if you're a bit more specific with your advices as stock-trading-noobs (like me blush.gif ) would benefit more. For example, long financials/commodities is a very broad advice..... wink.gif

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ok many reports/meeting in the coming week as usual so how bou tml any target stock?
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 14 2008, 11:30 AM)
At 0.5 is still a manageable ratio.

It could be a undervalued stock, if earning wise still showing a positive sign.

Its business is largely affected by oil price/natural gas, as those are the main raw ingredient in making their product (polymer, polymer resin)
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EPS 20.6

DPS 3

2006

EPS 24.6

DPS 3

2007

EPS 21.3

DPS 7.5

2008

DPS 6 SEN so far

http://biz.thestar.com.my/marketwatch/bonu...vidends.asp?c=T

Most of its dividend is tax exempted wink.gif

May be can open a thread for this counter too thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(kmarc @ Dec 14 2008, 08:18 PM)
I have no doubt about your abilities and have no doubt that you are helping the forumers here as much as you can. However, you don't have to "carry your nose so high" (to put it mildly) as I'm sure many forumers here have noticed...
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Yeah, I noticed it too and was compelled to changed my sig after his continuous sarcasm. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Dec 14 2008, 03:27 PM)
I've done a bit of research and will probably go for these "restaurants"  laugh.gif for the short term - LCL, KNM and maybe AIRPORT, mainly due to their potential for hugh capital gains. GAMUDA is another counter on my list due to their predicted high dividends for FY09 & FY10. Just that their shares prices have increased quite a bit.

Haven't decided on defensive stocks yet.... still have time for that.... Looking at Carlsberg, asiafile and PBBANK for their predicted high dividend FY09 & FY10. I'm holding some RESORTS share too, mainly for their potential capital gains too.....

@sampoo, so what restaurant are you going to? And what time is your lunch?  biggrin.gif
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2 let u know that, i usually go out for lunch alone (so hardly ppl know where i go, but i paln 1 hour b4 the lunch). icon_idea.gif In reality, the ppl who buy stock should not hv much influent by anyone/media, they need to do self study. Always remember, trade at ur own risk! sweat.gif

i go for lunch no need to punch card one. brows.gif

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QUOTE(wirelessdude @ Dec 14 2008, 10:59 PM)
Yeah, I noticed it too and was compelled to changed my sig after his continuous sarcasm. tongue.gif
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Owh... just noticed your sig.... then you better give some advice too! We wanna make some money.... laugh.gif

QUOTE(sampoo @ Dec 14 2008, 11:01 PM)
2 let u know that, i usually go out for lunch alone.  icon_idea.gif

i go for lunch no need to punch card one.   brows.gif
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No no, my question was referring to stocks trading....rephrase my question.... which stocks are you aiming for and when are you going in?

For me, I'm buying as much as I can for now, hoping to catch the bull on KLSE year-end & around CNY.... smile.gif

Punch card? Half the time I forget to punch my card..... whistling.gif

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Dec 15 2008, 12:05 AM)
Owh... just noticed your sig.... then you better give some advice too! We wanna make some money....  laugh.gif
No no, my question was referring to stocks trading....rephrase my question.... which stocks are you aiming for and when are you going in?

For me, I'm buying as much as I can for now, hoping to catch the bull on KLSE year-end & around CNY....  smile.gif

Punch card? Half the time I forget to punch my card.....  whistling.gif
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actually, i already anwser ur question lioa. rclxub.gif

to ur self study. For example, the BEST performance stock in Bursa and consider no. 1 stock is VADS BERHAD, then u should study the comany and the business model, and apply the same rule to any company u buy in the future and not just listen to the media. brows.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(sampoo @ Dec 14 2008, 11:11 PM)
actually, i already anwser ur question lioa.  rclxub.gif

to ur self study. For example, the BEST performance stock in Bursa and consider no. 1 stock is VADS BERHAD, then u should study the comany and the business model, and apply the same rule to any company u buy in the future and not just listen to the media.  brows.gif  icon_idea.gif
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I'm too noob to study a company and it's business model as I'm not in the financial field.... I'm sure there are a lot of forumers here who are noobs too.... wink.gif

I actually depend a lot on news/blog/reports/review of a company/counter..... Trying to gather as much info as I can to make an educated decision......

Since starting trading last month, I frequently buy "The Edge Malaysia" magazine, watch CNN, bloomberg, CNBC and bookmark any and every important website I could find..... even with all these, it is still difficult to decide which counters to go for..... rclxub.gif

VADS BERHAD? Cool, will do some research on this counter.... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Dec 14 2008, 06:34 PM)
Hey buddy, my forecasts change daily base on price actions. You can ask guys that talk to me everyday and how i made them money on a daily basis. Sometimes we lose money, sometimes we win money; but my accuracy is much better than some of the traders here by far.

When i told the forum to sell at these period; it still holds true. IF you are a short term trader, you sell on rallies, buy on dips. If you want to be a long term trader, then one should long financials, long commodities, long carry trades. Why? You yourself will know why.

You don't have to listen, i am just talking ass but my close friends will vouch for my record in FX which is the most complicated financial instrument there is today.  rolleyes.gif  laugh.gif
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calm down guys, okay I m new here, u did mention u r helping forumers by giving ur tips here, but here not all expert to be honest I noob, so make it simple n straight forward. so everybody can understand. just my 2 cents

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Dec 15 2008, 12:36 AM)
I'm too noob to study a company and it's business model as I'm not in the financial field.... I'm sure there are a lot of forumers here who are noobs too....  wink.gif

I actually depend a lot on news/blog/reports/review of a company/counter..... Trying to gather as much info as I can to make an educated decision......

Since starting trading last month, I frequently buy "The Edge Malaysia" magazine, watch CNN, bloomberg, CNBC and bookmark any and every important website I could find..... even with all these, it is still difficult to decide which counters to go for.....  rclxub.gif

VADS BERHAD? Cool, will do some research on this counter....  thumbup.gif
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VADS will be privatised at RM 7.50....

Before you invest.... decide on,

1. what sector you want to invest into?

2. Then compare the P/E, DE, DY, ASSET AND LIABILITIES between the same sector and so on.....

3. Look at the management.....


You got to decide yourself... Not by listening to any hot tips on which counter may go up...What happened if the counter go down instead which normally it does after you get the hot tips....

The edge you can read by not following the hot tips. It is for you to know what is really happening on certain company and economy conditions not to give you any hot tips....

I use to play with hot tips when i start play stock but you will be not so lucky all the times by following hot tips wink.gif

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Dec 14 2008, 11:36 PM)
I'm too noob to study a company and it's business model as I'm not in the financial field.... I'm sure there are a lot of forumers here who are noobs too....  wink.gif

I actually depend a lot on news/blog/reports/review of a company/counter..... Trying to gather as much info as I can to make an educated decision......

Since starting trading last month, I frequently buy "The Edge Malaysia" magazine, watch CNN, bloomberg, CNBC and bookmark any and every important website I could find..... even with all these, it is still difficult to decide which counters to go for.....  rclxub.gif

VADS BERHAD? Cool, will do some research on this counter....  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Dec 15 2008, 08:04 AM)
VADS will be privatised at RM 7.50....

Before you invest.... decide on,

1. what sector you want to invest into?

2. Then compare the P/E, DE, DY, ASSET AND LIABILITIES between the same sector and so on.....

3. Look at the management.....
You got to decide yourself... Not by listening to any hot tips on which counter may go up...What happened if the counter go down instead which normally it does after you get the hot tips....

The edge you can read by not following the hot tips. It is for you to know what is really happening on certain company and economy conditions not to give you any hot tips....

I use to play with hot tips when i start play stock but you will be not so lucky all the times by following hot tips  wink.gif
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Errr.... again, for noobs like me, it is difficult to decide. For one, any sector is the same to me doh.gif ..... I'm learning to look at the variables you mentioned e.g. P/E, DY, liabilities, etc but still need time to understand the meaning and implications of those data....

For example, AIRASIA is definitely not on my list, even though there is a chance that their price will increase. The reason is because they have a hugh debt, doesn't give dividends and had a net loss of almost half a billion last quarter. There would definitely be better counters with a similar chance of price increase WITHOUT the problems like AIRASIA....

Frankly speaking, there were a few hot tips that really did come true e.g. TMI and YTLPOWER.....

Anyway, I'm glad that the shares I picked so far did not have much paper loss, hope that their capital value will increase in Q1.....

QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Dec 15 2008, 09:30 AM)
too late for VADS tongue.gif
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Yeah, looking at their historical charts, the price actually went up around sept-oct '08..... same like JTINTER.... I'm also aiming for defensive stocks that hasn't increased that much, or dropped a bit during these bad times.... looks like VADS won't be in my list... smile.gif

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