from what i read:
- less bloated, can choose the components that u want to install
- some kind of super taskbar, more functionality
- ribbon interface on Wordpad
- directx 11
- less annoying UAC
- others all can't remember
it's a "minor" upgrade compared to from ME to XP or XP to Vista
this is something like from Win95 to 98 imho

i thought ms remove UAC in windows 7............................

btw, vista user out there, u can disable the super annoying UAC @ control panel.
& dx11 will b available for vista as well.

This post has been edited by tech3910: Dec 5 2008, 11:53 PM

Windows 7 = VISTA core with redesigned UI.

lets wait for it first..but it might consume more power than vista..i hope we dont need minimum 4gb ram to run it smoothly..if not most laptop jialat d lo..most also maximum 4GB.. and i just saw at HP website that CQ40 maximum supported ram is only 2GB!! im gonna think all over again about buying that model..

How many % of time u spend on ur PC coying massive files??? Yes, this is one instance VISTA is slower but only by seconds. And there is a good reason behind why it is slower. The way XP copy the files is faster as it didn't take extra precautions to check the data u copied. VISTA rectify this issue and thus inccured some penalty in time taken to copy the files. I'll rather waste a few seconds to know that my data is handled properly... ..and the benefits of a fast boot up system (which i do a few times a day), already more than make up whatever time i lost when copying huge files.

And oh...XP is so fugly looking on my 22" LCD....the crummy fonts is already enuff to justified and i removed it from my PC! LOL.

This post has been edited by Matrix: Dec 6 2008, 12:01 AM

vista isn't as "responsive" dat u think...................
i use both OS, xp3(32) & vista sp1(64).
vista seams 2 crash more often.................
i hate dat wen it happens wen copying files...........dis is y i dun cut-paste wen copying file in vista....................

vista definitely need some fix......................good thing the sp2 is cmg soon..............

ohh , thanks for the info

It depends on the specs of your computer (IMHO). If you've got more RAM to spare (At least 4GB), then it should be fine to game with Vista. If you've got 2GB of RAM and would like to game then I'd doubt that Vista will be your penultimate choice. I must say that XP is great. But hey, move on, upgrade your computer (save up, if no money) and get used to Vista. It took me some getting used to Vista. Heck, all my laptops are 2GB RAM but all my desktops are 4GB RAM. PS: I'm using 32-Bit and OEM OSes. Please PM me if you'd like to know what OSes I've got in my system (I've got 6 OSes in 4 different HDDs).

1) Oh yeah...XP is more responsive...because you 'think' it is. It is this kind of rumour mongering mentality with no facts that spoil the reputation for vista...I don't 'think' that VISTA is more responsive, bro. I experienced it.

2) Vista crash more often - BS - I've NEVER EVER CRASH VISTA since DAY 1. Even when there's the rare occasion with explorer screw up, it'll recover by itself. XP lockups and hangs...like eating nasilemak for breakfast.

3) Sounds like u have problem where i) you have doggy hardware. R u copying to external USB drive? Not all USB drive converter are made the same. ii) PSU not enuff power iii) You might have some renegade apps in your system. iv) Viruses?

Frankly, SP2 isn't going to help you if you don't want to check the problem yourself. I've copy over 100GB of data(including many huge movie files) from one hard disk to another the other day as i migrate from one drive to another (at same time terminated XP from my PC....)

100GB big enough for you??

(PS: Btw...why do you want VISTA 64-bit?? You have 8GB of RAM and need all of it??....64-bit isn't prime time yet...u should use the 32-bit version instead and see if it helps)

This post has been edited by Matrix: Dec 6 2008, 12:04 PM

Agree with you. I've never experience Vista BSOD before! To the *******, who said Vista crash (BSOD), list your specs, he probably download po*n and kena virus.

I hate it. Vista Ultimate in my Compaq! I've upgraded from Home Premium to Vista Ulti but not much difference, seems worse b4 upgrade cuz start-up becomes slower, IE crashing more frequently.........

Lucky thing Im still using XP Pro (Acer)

I doubt there's much of diferrence in terms of speed between Vista Home Premium and Vista Ultimate.

Quite honestly, Vista is much better than XP if your computer can tahan it.

And apparently, Windows 7 promises a shitload of performance enhancements, like much faster boot time, and less GPU power needed for Aero

64 bit just 2 max out gaming experience.
i copy data from 1 hdd 2 another, not USB device.

btw, vista crash coz it still doesn't hav good enough compatibility.
my sound driver crash once, bit defender internet security 2009 crash twice.
all which i hav 2 reinstall............

pls, u sounds like a vista fan boy now...............
do i even said vista is no good? den wt i'm using now?........................
i said, vista is still cannot reach the height of xp. (dis is y os has service pack)
it is still slowser den xp a little bit wen it comes 2 running application.
those little bit adds up, dis is y company skip vista..........
hard 2 blame, xp has been on the market for almost 10 years...........

This post has been edited by tech3910: Dec 6 2008, 03:29 PM

If you have <4Gb RAM, then it's pointless to use Vista 64-bit...

You might as well use Vista 32-bit, which is more stable and has less issues with drivers and stuff

Sheesh.... Since when does 64-bit equals better gaming experience. Well, i haven't try 64-bits, no comments. Why don't you try XP 64-bit for a fair comparison eh?

Did you know u are wasting more RAM with 64-bit O/S?? It actually degrade your computing performance. Guess u don't have 8GB RAM either.

I have 3 sound driver enable same time (mobo realtek, X-FI, and ATI 4850 realtek) directed to different output. Never crash or hang. Not even once.

And my karsperksy runs great...


It's your PERCEPTION VISTA is bad becoz u want to run 64-bit when u don't have enough RAM and for most part, 64-bit is still not stable yet.

You are giving your comments based on a 32-bit vs 64-bit OS...I'm doing a straight comparison between 2 32-bit OS....who's the fanboy now??

This post has been edited by Matrix: Dec 6 2008, 04:26 PM

i;m giving logical opinion based on my experience...............just b coz u use vista, doesn't mean vista is the best.....................
dun u know certain games like crysis runs better on 64 bit os?......................
did u even look @ my siggy?.................
even 3 gb is well enough 2 max out any games performance on 64bit.

i guess u dun even red my post b4 replying....................
did i ever mention vista is bad????
my point is, performance wise is not on the same height as xp.

y people & company skip vista?
coz its performance is not as fast as xp.
if ms can mek vista as fast as xp + all the GUI, dis will definitely convince company 2 upgrade.
speed & stability matter most in business world, not beautiful GUI.

vista is fun 2 use, once u disable the super annoying UAC.
vista has improved a lot wit the introduction of sp1, i expect sp2 to further improved vista.

edited, i think i hav 2 bold dis statement......................coz u people not reading...............

This post has been edited by tech3910: Dec 6 2008, 09:09 PM

i got both xp and vistax86, x64....
i running three os... all updated..

any problem i facing? no at all..
all of them are stable with me..

performance for xp better than vista?
it only occur if only u have lousy old hardware...
vista copy files slow? i don't think it is.
internet explorer always hang? if ur line is fast, it won't occur such problems.
vista X64 always got compability issues? so long i only found tat my ie 64bit cannot run some plugin. But inside vista x64 are ready a ie32bit for u.. so no problem at all..
driver problem? maybe ur hardware are superb old.
xp running games smooth than vista? oh god, u using old display card? from wat i found from the review, the benchmark only few FPS different from XP to vista....

found any vista problem? report in.. don't blind talking vista got lot of problem when got no proof



P.S.
this problem same as
the age of windows 98..

when windows XP release, got lot of user complain tat XP very slow.... and windows 98 is better for gaming.. i saw that.. and blaming that xp got lot of bugs and compability issues.

this judge what? i personnally also don't know..
some say wait the vista to release the best service pack just to install it? i think it is the time windows "7" already on market.

This post has been edited by chchyong89: Dec 6 2008, 08:22 PM

agreeable... ppl oso said vista is bad coz dey dun hav cash 2 upgrade n their com hardware is old n lousy.. to b honest... i relly love vista... n yes windows 7 hav less anoying uac... besides after sp1 has launched it is much faster...

the annoying vista UAC is able to off....