I dual boot my machine. VISTA is definitely faster and more responsive.

Don't agree. 64-bit waste memory only. Unless u have 8GB of RAM, it's not worth going 64-bit...64-bit will consume 20% to 40% more memory for the same usage due to the larger words in the variables.

People who have only 4GB thinks they have more RAM by utilizing the extra 0.75GB...but in reality loses out more memory due to the 64-bit memory registers.

This post has been edited by Matrix: Dec 5 2008, 11:29 PM

How fast do you want to run ur office APPS? The fact is VISTA is very responsive even after i throw in tons of apps, unlike XP which gets bloated and crawl like turtle. Having a responsive machine is > than getting that extra 2fps in ur game when modern PC can easily handles 30fps to 60fps in ur game. Having 2fps extra is moot.

Windows 7 = VISTA core with redesigned UI.

How many % of time u spend on ur PC coying massive files??? Yes, this is one instance VISTA is slower but only by seconds. And there is a good reason behind why it is slower. The way XP copy the files is faster as it didn't take extra precautions to check the data u copied. VISTA rectify this issue and thus inccured some penalty in time taken to copy the files. I'll rather waste a few seconds to know that my data is handled properly... ..and the benefits of a fast boot up system (which i do a few times a day), already more than make up whatever time i lost when copying huge files.

And oh...XP is so fugly looking on my 22" LCD....the crummy fonts is already enuff to justified and i removed it from my PC! LOL.

This post has been edited by Matrix: Dec 6 2008, 12:01 AM

1) Oh yeah...XP is more responsive...because you 'think' it is. It is this kind of rumour mongering mentality with no facts that spoil the reputation for vista...I don't 'think' that VISTA is more responsive, bro. I experienced it.

2) Vista crash more often - BS - I've NEVER EVER CRASH VISTA since DAY 1. Even when there's the rare occasion with explorer screw up, it'll recover by itself. XP lockups and hangs...like eating nasilemak for breakfast.

3) Sounds like u have problem where i) you have doggy hardware. R u copying to external USB drive? Not all USB drive converter are made the same. ii) PSU not enuff power iii) You might have some renegade apps in your system. iv) Viruses?

Frankly, SP2 isn't going to help you if you don't want to check the problem yourself. I've copy over 100GB of data(including many huge movie files) from one hard disk to another the other day as i migrate from one drive to another (at same time terminated XP from my PC....)

100GB big enough for you??

(PS: Btw...why do you want VISTA 64-bit?? You have 8GB of RAM and need all of it??....64-bit isn't prime time yet...u should use the 32-bit version instead and see if it helps)

This post has been edited by Matrix: Dec 6 2008, 12:04 PM

Sheesh.... Since when does 64-bit equals better gaming experience. Well, i haven't try 64-bits, no comments. Why don't you try XP 64-bit for a fair comparison eh?

Did you know u are wasting more RAM with 64-bit O/S?? It actually degrade your computing performance. Guess u don't have 8GB RAM either.

I have 3 sound driver enable same time (mobo realtek, X-FI, and ATI 4850 realtek) directed to different output. Never crash or hang. Not even once.

And my karsperksy runs great...


It's your PERCEPTION VISTA is bad becoz u want to run 64-bit when u don't have enough RAM and for most part, 64-bit is still not stable yet.

You are giving your comments based on a 32-bit vs 64-bit OS...I'm doing a straight comparison between 2 32-bit OS....who's the fanboy now??

This post has been edited by Matrix: Dec 6 2008, 04:26 PM

yep....agreed....no "YOU BUNTUT" for me. The nightmare of looking for drivers, trying to install them(it's not just double click), searching for good apps in a sea of junk apps....urrgghh....

2 Options.
1) Add RAM to 2GB. RAM so cheap now. Buy now or forever hold your peace.
2) Disable Aero interface. Your windows will fly.

I'm running 2GB RAM on Atom. Doesn't lag at all. I disabled the Aero and it flys. LOL.

btw, i noticed some observation about die hard XP users and would like to put foward an analogy.

It's like cars.

1) Example 1: Your Proton Saga BLM 1.3 use the CAMPRO 1.3 engine. You slapped this engine into a WAJA and then you complain it is slow yadda yadda..no power yadda...but you forgot the benefits of a bigger car, bigger boot etc. That's why they don't put 1.3 engine into a WAJA. It runs on 1.6.

2) Example 2: VIVA 1.0 vs Myvi 1.0....exactly same 3 cyclinder engine. Which car do you think is faster and more acceleration?? Of course VIVA 1.0
But Myvi is the bigger car.

3) Example 3: Myvi 1.3 vs Avanza 1.3....basically the same engine with different tuning. Which do you think has better acceleration? Nuff said.

So it's the same case with VISTA or any new O/S. When XP was released, those Win98 machines ..what..Pentium 1?? Can barely even BOOT XP.

If you want to have the benefits of new O/S, your machine must be able to take it. All this 'windows lagging' whining are nothing more than people who wants to have Aero, but not the GPU nor RAM to handle it. So who's at fault??

With Aero off, it is IMPOSSIBLE for VISTA to lag even for a lowly machine like an Intel ATOM.


This post has been edited by Matrix: Dec 10 2008, 02:47 PM

Hee-hee...actually i'm planning to do that...but it takes time...also planning do capture videos of the desktop with Atom in action.... looking for software that can do the video capture. Just slipstreamed VISTA SP1 and trying install into a Virtual PC......No more double work in future!

Please stop the BS. We have people here who can run VISTA no problemo on Pentium-M 1.6Ghz and I can run on an Atom PC fine!! My main rig with VISTA plays all my games at max settings and max resolution. Lag my arse!!!

Grrrr...i'm going to put up a VISTA ATOM PC review to end all this BS once and for all....just need time to do it...

I'm not talking about u lah...LOL.