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post Dec 2 2008, 05:06 PM, updated 17y ago

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INTRODUCTION
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NOKIA N97 SPECS
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Nokia N97 Scratch Test
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N97 VIDEOS
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OFFICIAL PRICE IN MALAYSIA ZITRON/AVAXX SET!

RRP: RM2480

Nokia N97 Avaxx Sales Package Contents:

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Nokia N97 anti fingerprint Screen Protector -> Buy It Here! thumbup.gif
SP PRICE
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NOKIA N97 OWNER LIST

The BLACK Team
01. Ash
02. saiya
03. aruja_69
04. kherox
05. mannquin
06. davidlian
07. smashpOp
08. snakevenom
09. Tag_F1
10. firstknight
11.zamimi
12.en_mizi
13.-Ty-Incubus
14.adrian7386
15.gmail
16.BabyMilo_85
17.keeekeee
18.f a N z i
19.caledonianz
20.jcleoch
21.liamlain
22.ADRt
23.robyn88
24.jpaq
25.mzaidi
26.stryfox
27.del85
28.
29.
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The WHITE Team
01. terry007
02. michaelconan
03. icemessenger
04. sinac
05. Sunshine
06. antho1
07. espree
08. Hangoutfit
09. Babyripp
10.nitin_o
11.chinsc
12.acad615
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Nokia N97 Userbar:
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Q How to install garmin? Now Garmin is Fully COMPATIBLE WITH TOUCHSCREEN
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6) HOW TO UPDATE FIRMWARE?

Here a simply guide on how to update your phone firmware

*Nokia N97 Supports User Data Preservation (UDP) lets users upgrade their firmware without losing data (such as contacts, settings or installed applications). Previously you had to backup your phone and restore it after the firmware update happened.*

*Just backup to be at the safe side*


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post Dec 2 2008, 05:07 PM

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post Dec 2 2008, 05:10 PM

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woooo mark my spot first..
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pocket sure berlubang one..
sure 3k... sad.gif
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post Dec 2 2008, 05:13 PM

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ok now who's changing their mind from Nokia 5800 to this N97? the price will be from Euro550 so once reach to malaysia expect it to be RM3k plus!

for me i'll stick to 5800 first..

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oh no...TUBE not even make itself widely in all-stores around the globe...now N97 making its debut... sweat.gif
does this another waiting games for Malaysian...not yet hype with TUBE,this model already taking some spotlight(s)... doh.gif

anyway...all i can say...it's a nice phone...hoped Nokia introduced something new from this phone and not just a "recycle" design with same specs... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(snakevenom @ Dec 2 2008, 05:13 PM)
ok now who's changing their mind from Nokia 5800 to this N97? the price will be from Euro550 so once reach to malaysia expect it to be RM3k plus!

for me i'll stick to 5800 first..
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lol..nokia taking on the x-1 ...
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Out of the long list of the features set, I think the most crucial would be the batt. N96's doing ok so far at that?
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post Dec 2 2008, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(toby.c13 @ Dec 2 2008, 05:15 PM)
im first..
panasonic88 is second.. i would say.. tongue.gif
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isn't PANA a MISS NOKIA TUBE?...she can't betray TUBE... whistling.gif
or you want to crown yourself with MISS NOKIA N97... rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Dec 2 2008, 05:22 PM)
lol..nokia taking on the x-1 ...
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probably an answer from Nokia to SE... whistling.gif


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man...this picture is totally different from the above picture...can't imagine the rumors spread since early last year... sweat.gif
but the outcome is end of this year and it's totally different from want the "speculations" goes... doh.gif
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QUOTE(toby.c13 @ Dec 2 2008, 05:15 PM)
im first..
panasonic88 is second.. i would say.. tongue.gif
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you understand me.

Nokia N97 is not my cup of tea. too "complicated" for me jor tongue.gif
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post Dec 2 2008, 05:31 PM

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That one just an mockup from old model.
N97 really great one..
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 2 2008, 05:31 PM)
you understand me.

Nokia N97 is not my cup of tea. too "complicated" for me jor tongue.gif
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didn't you find the built-up kind-of-more "attractive"... brows.gif
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post Dec 2 2008, 05:37 PM

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more photos of Nokia N97

looks more like a rival to SE X1i.

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^ same display UI like the Nokia Tube biggrin.gif
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this should cost a bomb.. laugh.gif
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It's gonna be intro'ed at:-
550.00 EUR = 2,523.78 MYR (that's not counting duties + sales tax etc etc.. yet)
1 EUR = 4.58869 MYR

So ya lol =p I've seen "cheaper" homemade bombs on ebay edi..

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QUOTE(eq8all @ Dec 2 2008, 05:45 PM)
It's gonna be intro'ed at:-
550.00 EUR = 2,523.78 MYR (that's not counting duties + sales tax etc etc.. yet)
1 EUR = 4.58869 MYR

So ya lol =p I've seen "cheaper" homemade bombs on ebay edi..
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I guess BYE BYE NOKIATUBE!
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post Dec 2 2008, 05:51 PM

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I'm going to get this after my SPM next year or as soon it's release if the price is about 2.2k.... can't wait...

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wow...the phone looks damn good..
but this kinda phone starting price sure very high, after a while it should drop.
guess have to wait till then i guess
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any idea whats teh flash light?
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where is the 8megapix? sad.gif
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post Dec 2 2008, 05:55 PM

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RM3K can buy a laptop already, quite expensive. So this phone will be released b4 or after CNY?
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the directional pad is located on the *left* side, it'll be a great device for gaming too!

hopefully the OS won't be laggy and it'll gonna be the next greatest hit ever!
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QUOTE(eq8all @ Dec 2 2008, 05:45 PM)
It's gonna be intro'ed at:-
550.00 EUR = 2,523.78 MYR (that's not counting duties + sales tax etc etc.. yet)
1 EUR = 4.58869 MYR

So ya lol =p I've seen "cheaper" homemade bombs on ebay edi..
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"homemade-bombs"?...mind to elaborate?... hmm.gif

QUOTE(-Torrz @ Dec 2 2008, 05:49 PM)
I guess BYE BYE NOKIATUBE!
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erksss?...don't you dare to say that...or you might end up beaten by few LYN here(kidding only)... icon_rolleyes.gif
some of them can't resist and hype with TUBE...till TUBE reached our shore only than can start the speculation... whistling.gif

QUOTE(Victor3010 @ Dec 2 2008, 05:51 PM)
I'm going to get this after my SPM next year or as soon it's release if the price is about 2.2k.... can't wait...
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best to focus on your SPM first and target it as your present...how's that?... brows.gif

QUOTE(chicaman @ Dec 2 2008, 05:55 PM)
where is the 8megapix? sad.gif
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erksss?...probably Nokia is trying to "kill" certain phone(s)... whistling.gif

QUOTE(little ice @ Dec 2 2008, 05:57 PM)
the directional pad is located on the *left* side, it'll be a great device for gaming too!

hopefully the OS won't be laggy and it'll gonna be the next greatest hit ever!
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feedbacks and reviews from TUBE would help to show the result of the OS usage and effectiveness... rolleyes.gif
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this gonna be right choice..
just i hope that this model is come with finger touch screen smile.gif


Added on December 2, 2008, 6:13 pm
QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Dec 2 2008, 05:55 PM)
RM3K can buy a laptop already, quite expensive. So this phone will be released b4 or after CNY?
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stated at 1st post - 2nd quarter of 09.

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ohh... now they follow N79's design...

well.. at least slightly better than N81-ish..

32gb on board? hah! super mini laptop on the loose...


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QUOTE(asrulfaizyhelmi @ Dec 2 2008, 06:12 PM)
this gonna be right choice..
just i hope  that this model is come with finger touch screen smile.gif


Added on December 2, 2008, 6:13 pm

stated at 1st post - 2nd quarter of 09.
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multi-touch would works great if Nokia bundled it in... smile.gif

QUOTE(Seaedge @ Dec 2 2008, 06:17 PM)
ohh... now they follow N79's design...

well.. at least slightly better than N81-ish..

32gb on board? hah! super mini laptop on the loose...
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hoped Nokia introduced something better apart from just bundle-in a big storage... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(unknowndevices @ Dec 2 2008, 06:09 PM)
"homemade-bombs"?...mind to elaborate?... hmm.gif
None of that "supplies for terrorista" stufflah sweat.gif . There are munitions buffs apparently doodling with mostly flash and smoke relics. More like for pyrotechnics and stuff. But some are quite powerful enough to take out a room's door so lol =p~

Getting back to the topic, if I were to properly use that stated 48gig max storage, I'd only do so if there's ever gonna be a proper mobile truecrypt software. That way I can carry my secondary backups with me. If not, forget it that's the "best" way to lag things out for sure.
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QUOTE(eq8all @ Dec 2 2008, 06:21 PM)
None of that "supplies for terrorista" stufflah  sweat.gif . There are munitions buffs apparently doodling with mostly flash and smoke relics. More like for pyrotechnics and stuff. But some are quite powerful enough to take out a room's door so lol =p~

Getting back to the topic, if I were to properly use that stated 48gig max storage, I'd only do so if there's ever gonna be a proper mobile truecrypt software. That way I can carry my secondary backups with me. If not, forget it that's the "best" way to lag things out for sure.
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owh?...ok?...thought you're trying to say about CHINA-phone(s)... doh.gif

yups!...yups!...Nokia should introduced something that users can trust in their phone without failing due to simple and tiny crashed usage... rolleyes.gif
or not...all the big and large storage will be just a waste and not-fully-utilize... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(unknowndevices @ Dec 2 2008, 06:30 PM)
or not...all the big and large storage will be just a waste and not-fully-utilize... whistling.gif
Not too sure about it won't be "fully utilized" yet..You knowlah some kids and people these days and their "creative videos". "Self produced" some more brows.gif . Heck some might still complain "Oi? Why no 160gb SSD?"

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Wah lau..here we go again.. early next year...March or June 2009 like N96 so damn late to launch....3k above is normal for Nokia N Series
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QUOTE(eq8all @ Dec 2 2008, 06:36 PM)
Not too sure about it won't be "fully utilized" yet..You knowlah some kids and people these days and their "creative videos". "Self produced" some more  brows.gif . Heck some might still complain "Oi? Why no 160gb SSD?"
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hmmm...but most just simply dump all their songs and video-clips into the phone...as actually the phones can works as other things also... cool2.gif
after sometime,seeing with all the great and grand specs but for simple usage...but this more of how long the battery can works multi-tasking... rolleyes.gif
hoped as what they mentioned the processor really works fine for multi-tasking...or not it will be another waste... doh.gif

QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 2 2008, 06:44 PM)
Wah lau..here we go again.. early next year...March or June 2009 like N96 so damn late to launch....3k above is normal for Nokia N Series
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hmmm...don't say you're eyeing for this phone and would be included in your wishlist(s)... whistling.gif
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N96 pun not yet seen betul2 in the market now N97 pulak...

BTW my bro owned N96, nothing special, only the screen is big...
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here goes my money...macam water gone like dat...geee
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the design.. drool.gif
the keypad.. doh.gif shakehead.gif
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hp suppose to be HP. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yip_man @ Dec 2 2008, 07:04 PM)
N96 pun not yet seen betul2 in the market now N97 pulak...

BTW my bro owned N96, nothing special, only the screen is big...
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what do you mean "not yet seen in the market"?...N96 available already...and i had one...if you're comparing with N97 surely got big differences... cool2.gif
N96 big screen and big internal memory... smile.gif

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here goes my money...macam water gone like dat...geee
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planning and eyeing for this phone already?...then you should start following all the news and some speculations about this phone from now... whistling.gif
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32GB on board? microsd slot? this is some serious machine. too bad still with 5megapix cam (not that it's bad or inadequate)
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Added on December 2, 2008, 7:25 pm
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any idea whats teh flash light?
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through the youtube video it seem like dual led. No Xenon flash yet

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so at last nokia announce their Nseries touch phone.
this phone might be really king phone if launch within 1-2 moths. but schedule to launch at Q2 2009 (earliest), b4 that time Samsung or other manufac already come out or launch much better spec. js like SE announce c905, later on samsung announce Innov8 and launch it early.

now i bet many user will wonder when Nokia wanna release s60 touch Nseries 8mpx phone with xenon tongue.gif


Added on December 2, 2008, 7:32 pmnway whats the outside material for this n97? any metal parts to give premium feel like x1?

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look nice like x1... but nokia phone for n series is damn expensive
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One question about the size of this phone, which's 117.2 x 55.3 x 15.9-18.3 mm, what does it mean by 15.9-18.3 mm? U think this phone is too big?
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Looks like a really nice phone rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(cutiepooh @ Dec 2 2008, 07:59 PM)
look nice like x1... but nokia phone for n series is damn expensive
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N series pricing is quite reasonable, comparing with *ahem* certain *ahem* SE feature phones.. like C905, G705, W705 whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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through the youtube video it seem like dual led. No Xenon flash yet
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Another Dual Led that spoil itself. How good if it has both Dual Led and XENON ^^
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Great..still playing wif my n78
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is this touch screen or not?


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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Dec 2 2008, 09:10 PM)
is this touch screen or not?
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omg this phone just own xperia.
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Of course it is touch screen..and it is nice to fit in your hands like Iphone. Yes.. at last Nokia is killing Apple....
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sure beribu ribu wan.
hope the processing power cukup for multitasking. my n79 (terbalik number from this model) tak cukup processing power so multitasking is difficult.
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 2 2008, 05:46 PM)
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no no no..u dont ever buy this..we already plan to buy 5800 rite ? tongue.gif tongue.gif


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I expected it to be at least 8mp camera.
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battery size same as e71, with that bigass screen, i doubt the battery will even last 2days..mayb 1 day..,
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Look like a dopod model..can't remember the model. Lastly, 5800 cater from 18 - 31 years old and N97 is cater for 32 - 45 years consumers totally different market for both of hp. Maybe N97 launch here before 5800 not surprise of that....hehehehe
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Look like a dopod model..can't remember the model. Lastly, 5800 cater from 18 - 31 years old and N97 is cater for 32 - 45 years consumers totally different market for both of hp. Maybe N97 launch here before 5800 not surprise of that....hehehehe
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Yeah the tilt design look similar to HTC TyTN II (Tilt). But actually the entire design looks like a ExpressMusic 5800 but with a full keyboard. Just like a HTC Diamond and another version with full keyboard, the HTC Touch Pro.
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Dec 2 2008, 10:09 PM)
Yeah the tilt design look similar to HTC TyTN II (Tilt). But actually the entire design looks like a ExpressMusic 5800 but with a full keyboard. Just like a HTC Diamond and another version with full keyboard, the HTC Touch Pro.
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Its all marketing stratgy..basically it is the tube..with qwerty thats all.. personally this new flagship phone from nokia looks like more of an E series rather then N series.. nevertheless.. E or N.. nokia phones is rather difficult to differentiates because almost feature now the similar and pretty standard. The point is unlike apple where its concentrating more on user experience and OS based features..nokia is more technology oriented manufacturer 1st..but slowly now updating its symbian OS..

I think good for Nokia, the only drawback and always quality..time and time again quality issues..i feel nokia QC sucks..

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too complicated for me, might as well get a netbook
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damn the white one look nice, but bet that it would be sky high price
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Notebook is great but u can't put in your pant pocket.....


Added on December 2, 2008, 11:20 pmAnother one more so anyone can guess how many page more before the phone launch here....just look at Tube already 64 page launch already but no here...yet...:-(

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is multitouch available ?
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Maybe...like u seen in the video above.....
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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 3 2008, 12:00 AM)
Maybe...like u seen in the video above.....
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QUOTE(sharkteef @ Dec 2 2008, 09:14 PM)
sure beribu ribu wan.
hope the processing power cukup for multitasking. my n79 (terbalik number from this model) tak cukup processing power so multitasking is difficult.
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isn't that happened to most of Nokia phones?... whistling.gif

QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 2 2008, 09:55 PM)
Look like a dopod model..can't remember the model. Lastly, 5800 cater from 18 - 31 years old and N97 is cater for 32 - 45 years consumers totally different market for both of hp. Maybe N97 launch here before 5800 not surprise of that....hehehehe
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won't shock if that happened... doh.gif

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Nokia N97 Demo

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what?...they got video for N97,this mean the phone would be around the corner... shocking.gif
TUBE's heat not even getting warm,N97 already making its debut... sweat.gif

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omg this will be my next phone.
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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 2 2008, 11:01 PM)
Notebook is great but u can't put in your pant pocket.....


Added on December 2, 2008, 11:20 pmAnother one more so anyone can guess how many page more before the phone launch here....just look at Tube already 64 page launch already but no here...yet...:-(
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isn't that happened to other phone's thread also... rolleyes.gif
anyway,the thread works to promote,introduce,speculate,show-off and etc to people... whistling.gif
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nice phone!!!
hahah by the time anyone gets it...
another model from SE or nokia or samsung
will be announced!!! hahah


comparing X1 and N97

N97
Display Type TFT touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 360 x 640 pixels, 3.5 inches
- Proximity sensor for auto turn-off
- Accelerometer sensor for auto-rotate
- Full QWERTY keyboard
- Handwriting recognition

X1
Display Type TFT touchscreen, 65K colors
Size 800 x 480 pixels, 3.0 inches
- Full QWERTY keyboard
- Optical trackpad


S1 seems to have a higher reso screen
but then...
N97 is better in color and a bigger wide screen

who is more pricey?
X1 released earlier than N97...
so X1 will be cheaper due to price depreciation

size
X1 is smaller i guess
cuz smaller screen smaller phone lor:P

color?
the while really attracts!(iphone style)
black.... reminds me of htc Diamond!:)

having flash mean....
having a flash light.

having a xenon flash....
means for camera use:)
so both phone chose flash:)



both phones are good
we'll have to wait for the confirmation of the processor of N97
heheh we'll see if it beats the X1 in it:)
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But maybe that time X1 will come out a better spec....?? See who win then....
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Omg...16M color 3.5" touch screen? Damn nice...

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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 3 2008, 10:57 AM)
But maybe that time X1 will come out a better spec....?? See who win then....
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isn't it the X1 specs would remain eventhou N97 were to be introduced early/mid/end of next year?... hmm.gif
unless SE taking a move to upgrade to compete head to head with N97,but don't think they would do that... rolleyes.gif
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Weird. correct me if i'm wrong, Tube has higher resolution screen than N97?

I dont think this phone has multitouch, different type of touchscreen panel compared to iPhone. Resistive vs capacitive.
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QUOTE(unknowndevices @ Dec 3 2008, 11:23 AM)
isn't it the X1 specs would remain eventhou N97 were to be introduced early/mid/end of next year?... hmm.gif
unless SE taking a move to upgrade to compete head to head with N97,but don't think they would do that... rolleyes.gif
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you understand me.

Nokia N97 is not my cup of tea. too "complicated" for me jor tongue.gif
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From the video, there is no multi-touch. The swipes are not predicting the momentum of the swipe, and there is no evidence of multi-finger operation that constitudes part of being multi-touch. The UI is slooooooooowwweeerrrr than iPhone, and IMO clunky and unintuitive, they basically remapped the old S60 v3 UI into a touch-capable interface, which looks ugly. The whole snappiness of the UI, from the time a swipe or a tap is registered, to the time the app is launched, also turns me off. It may be rectified by the time it gets launched, but if it is as slow as that advertised video, no sale for me. Funny how the Launch video seen inside that Youtube video shows the UI being snappier and faster than what that person is doing on that Youtube clip! laugh.gif

The only specs I'm attracted to is its internal memory, 32GB expandable to 48GB. Part of the appeal of a touch interface is simulating how fluid and responsive it is executing those taps, swipes and touches. I dont see that in this phone, nor do I see a huge change from the calibre of apps available or which will be ported over to this phone. It will still look as old (and dull IMO) as the currently available S60 v3 Nokia phones.
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Let us wait and see the final one when it launch by NOKIAs....then we all can decide multi touch or not....to me..each manufacture got up and down..if the hp is damn good like laptop..better buy a laptop with more hard drive memory..maybe next version of hp will support external har drive like our laptop :-)
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cool,but the price sure ...............
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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 3 2008, 12:39 PM)
Let us wait and see the final one when it launch by NOKIAs....then we all can decide multi touch or not....to me..each manufacture got up and down..if the hp is damn good like laptop..better buy a laptop with more hard drive memory..maybe next version of hp will support external har drive like our laptop :-)
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try to hold your laptop up on your ears when you receive call, or carry it around in your pocket.

oh, and it's either your pocket will burn, or your laptop processor will burn.

and...try to make your laptop standby more than 10 hours. wink.gif
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this phone don't have DVB-H receiver meh... what a waste sad.gif
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QUOTE(little ice @ Dec 3 2008, 01:24 PM)
try to hold your laptop up on your ears when you receive call, or carry it around in your pocket.

oh, and it's either your pocket will burn, or your laptop processor will burn.

and...try to make your laptop standby more than 10 hours. wink.gif
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From the video, there is no multi-touch. The swipes are not predicting the momentum of the swipe, and there is no evidence of multi-finger operation that constitudes part of being multi-touch. The UI is slooooooooowwweeerrrr than iPhone, and IMO clunky and unintuitive, they basically remapped the old S60 v3 UI into a touch-capable interface, which looks ugly. The whole snappiness of the UI, from the time a swipe or a tap is registered, to the time the app is launched, also turns me off. It may be rectified by the time it gets launched, but if it is as slow as that advertised video, no sale for me. Funny how the Launch video seen inside that Youtube video shows the UI being snappier and faster than what that person is doing on that Youtube clip! laugh.gif

The only specs I'm attracted to is its internal memory, 32GB expandable to 48GB. Part of the appeal of a touch interface is simulating how fluid and responsive it is executing those taps, swipes and touches. I dont see that in this phone, nor do I see a huge change from the calibre of apps available or which will be ported over to this phone. It will still look as old (and dull IMO) as the currently available S60 v3 Nokia phones.
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From what I read, the reason the UI is slooooooooowwweeerrrr than iPhone is because it's still a beta. the phone didn't even come out yet until late 2009 unsure.gif
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yeah...hope so..nokia obviously faster nowadays..no lag lag like old days
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newer nokia symbian phones nowadays are quite zippy... wonder if they would they would hv success in this phone.




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why symbian and not winmo ? hmmmm......

and nokia still lags ler. they've added in so many canggih applications but still unable to run multiple simultaneously. all mobile phone manufacturers still need to address the processing power efficiency and of coz the main crap of all which is battery life.

it be really good one day to see nokia becoming the first ever to produce a well made sturdy phone with enough processing power to multitask simultaneously, have advanced features and a battery that runs on water which will last for 5 days before refill while being cost effective. i prayyyyy.....very hard i prayyyy....
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From what I read, the reason the UI is slooooooooowwweeerrrr than iPhone is because it's still a beta. the phone didn't even come out yet until late 2009  unsure.gif
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If the 5800 Tube I fondled a few days back is any indication of the Touchscreen UI, I'm not holding so much hope for this one either. Did you notice that there are no page turns or real-time transitioning between aps, or pages of apps for that matter, in any of the videos? It is because, the UI is still shackled by the S60 OS, and with that effect, still look and function like an S60 device, albeit with a touchscreen interface slapped on top of it. Look when the video shows swiping , it did not simulate real-time swipe, it just immediately "jumps" to the next item in the list, unlike iPhone's actual smooth transitioning effect. The same with apps on S60.

I have the N96 with me, and I believe that the underlying OS will not be any different than what it has now, albeit with a touchscreen interface on top of it. So to call this an iPhone killer, I'd like it to be able to do what the iPhone does and more, and that is smoth multitouching. It is the experience that ushers in the feeling of holding something that feels like it is next-gen, not by topping up humongous internal memory or gaudy panel arranging. If Nokia stuck with S60, the hardware may be next-gen on paper, but the UI is still stuck in the last century, ugly icons and grid lining and all.
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they will be Nokinovo next year  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(rayzrblade @ Dec 3 2008, 12:01 PM)
i think he meant the successor to X1, the X2 maybe?
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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 3 2008, 12:39 PM)
Let us wait and see the final one when it launch by NOKIAs....then we all can decide multi touch or not....to me..each manufacture got up and down..if the hp is damn good like laptop..better buy a laptop with more hard drive memory..maybe next version of hp will support external har drive like our laptop :-)
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that is something to look forward for future phone(s)... brows.gif

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try to hold your laptop up on your ears when you receive call, or carry it around in your pocket.

oh, and it's either your pocket will burn, or your laptop processor will burn.

and...try to make your laptop standby more than 10 hours. wink.gif
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why symbian and not winmo ? hmmmm......

and nokia still lags ler. they've added in so many canggih applications but still unable to run multiple simultaneously. all mobile phone manufacturers still need to address the processing power efficiency and of coz the main crap of all which is battery life.

it be really good one day to see nokia becoming the first ever to produce a well made sturdy phone with enough processing power to multitask simultaneously, have advanced features and a battery that runs on water which will last for 5 days before refill while being cost effective. i prayyyyy.....very hard i prayyyy....
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And I thought the Tube was released to challenge X1... manatau they secretly developing N97 and it looks like its gonna be released soon
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nah... tube wasnt made to take down x1 rather take on iphone...


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looks great but why nokia haven't start to put 8MP camera since the samsung and sonyericsson already started, if compare this to sonyericsson x1 i think i would go x1, rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(reevephon @ Dec 3 2008, 05:28 PM)
looks great but why nokia haven't start to put 8MP camera since the samsung and sonyericsson already started, if compare this to sonyericsson x1 i think i would go x1,  rclxms.gif
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I will choose a white one. U gonna pay for me, sis? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Dec 3 2008, 08:32 PM)
Colors available: Black & White

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What is your preference?
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 3 2008, 04:21 PM)
If the 5800 Tube I fondled a few days back is any indication of the Touchscreen UI, I'm not holding so much hope for this one either. Did you notice that there are no page turns or real-time transitioning between aps, or pages of apps for that matter, in any of the videos? It is because, the UI is still shackled by the S60 OS, and with that effect, still look and function like an S60 device, albeit with a touchscreen interface slapped on top of it. Look when the video shows swiping , it did not simulate real-time swipe, it just immediately "jumps" to the next item in the list, unlike iPhone's actual smooth transitioning effect. The same with apps on S60.

I have the N96 with me, and I believe that the underlying OS will not be any different than what it has now, albeit with a touchscreen interface on top of it. So to call this an iPhone killer, I'd like it to be able to do what the iPhone does and more, and that is smoth multitouching. It is the experience that ushers in the feeling of holding something that feels like it is next-gen, not by topping up humongous internal memory or gaudy panel arranging. If Nokia stuck with S60, the hardware may be next-gen on paper, but the UI is still stuck in the last century, ugly icons and grid lining and all.
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Nokia has invested so much in the S60 to make it the ultimate boss in the Symbian foundation. Don't think they will drop that so soon yet. Even if Nokia plan to launch a separate platform specifically for their touch based phones, it still need time for developers to come out with the applications. With the huge pool of apps from S60, retaining the core OS to S60 is wiser.
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too bad .. the interface looks crappy .. i mean in the real vid .. not the promo vid .. the promo vid looks good .. but symbian at 3k ... not worth it la .... most i will pay is 2k++ for this phone ... only thing abt this phone is the huge storage ...
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This N97 really rocks in terms of features and specs. The 32G internal memory makes it almost like a mini computer..only it runs on Symbian OS. 5MP camera is just OK but no Xenon flash? Slot for external memory up to 48G is just fantastic. Betcha price will be over 3K. At that price I'd rather buy a mini laptop like the current Dell model. It's cheaper and runs faster. Size wise it's too thick and too big. But with all the features built into it..can't blame Nokia for making it that way. A competitor for Sony Ericsson Xperia? We'll see. Xperia runs on Windows Mobile..different mode altogether. Wonder if the Symbian OS will lag with that much memory to handle especially if you have a lot of things loaded into the phone?
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QUOTE(Tookia @ Dec 4 2008, 08:27 AM)
Slot for external memory up to 48G is just fantastic.
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Actually it only means the maximum supported memory capacity is 48GB. The internal memory is 32GB. The maximum capacity the external memory supported is 16GB. So assuming you put in a 16GB micro SDHC card, you will get 48GB total memory (32+16).

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8GB, 16GB, 32GB and 48GB..how many stuff does a person want to put in their phone..unlimited music, unlimited movies, unlimited photo...end of the day...it is still a handphone...Human expect miracle with their phone...like taking picture so sharp and nice, listening music from library 10k songs...movies...10 titles etc...end the day videocam, laptop, digital camera tak payah cari kerja lah..it got the ultimate phone around..
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i have a hard time even filling up my N95 8GB and now this 32GB in N97 is just crazy.
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Me too.....more music and video for u to install...hehehehe
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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 4 2008, 09:43 AM)
Human expect miracle with their phone...like taking picture so sharp and nice, listening music from library 10k songs...movies...10 titles etc...end the day videocam, laptop, digital camera tak payah cari kerja lah..it got the ultimate phone around..
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Thats show something. It reveals what a customer wants (in contrast to their needs) out of a mobile phone. It also means more tricks and puffs to put into a mobile phone product. That means more potential customers as you fulfill their wants. Thats what keep the market going. For example, a mobile phone can never replace a digital compact. But customers only want a good enough camera feature, not really the best camera.

We all are no fools. We know what we're getting into. Sometimes, we just need a properly converged device with decent quality/features. We don't carry a digital compact everywhere we go. BUT we do carry our mobile phones everyday. The more you put things into that mobile phone, the better the product will be. So that is the difference.

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the promo video looks promising.
but the real one is crappy.

just wait how things gonna be on its release. but not putting high hopes on it. btw totally agree with this quote,

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If Nokia stuck with S60, the hardware may be next-gen on paper, but the UI is still stuck in the last century, ugly icons and grid lining and all.


in the end, it's the user experience that matters anyway. being higher in specs on the spec list alone wont make a product groundbreaking. there are variety of mobile platforms that are relatively new yet deliver performance and improved user experience. S60 is too old already to be the next 'hip' thing.

or myb Nokia still got some trick hidden up its sleeve. so no choice then, have to wait for the launch of this phone. myb some Android love (which is near impossible), MAEMO (depends on Nokia mood), or myb a totally new version of symbian (mmm...myb not).

oh btw, i predict dozens more countdown timer on Nokia page next year. that's the trend Nokia is heading lately. mmm...

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its sleeky! but if da price tag around 3k++ den I feel its not worth. Maybe need to wait for the price to drop after the launch....which can be quite some time. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Tookia @ Dec 4 2008, 08:27 AM)
This N97 really rocks in terms of features and specs. The 32G internal memory makes it almost like a mini computer..only it runs on Symbian OS. 5MP camera is just OK but no Xenon flash? Slot for external memory up to 48G is just fantastic. Betcha price will be over 3K. At that price I'd rather buy a mini laptop like the current Dell model. It's cheaper and runs faster. Size wise it's too thick and too big. But with all the features built into it..can't blame Nokia for making it that way. A competitor for Sony Ericsson Xperia? We'll see. Xperia runs on Windows Mobile..different mode altogether. Wonder if the Symbian OS will lag with that much memory to handle especially if you have a lot of things loaded into the phone?
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that's happened to almost all Nokia phones...can't handle many applications in one time or it will hang... doh.gif
i now,can't expect too much from a phone...anyway hope it can be improve in future on different OS (probably) and processor... whistling.gif

QUOTE(snakevenom @ Dec 4 2008, 10:29 AM)
i have a hard time even filling up my N95 8GB  and now this 32GB in N97 is just crazy.
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then Nokia need to introduced something new or anything that would make the phone not just for filling musics and videos... rolleyes.gif
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New platform?
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I shall wait for it like I waited for N95 to drop to about RM1k then I'll be like trapping in the loop forever.
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Dec 4 2008, 01:02 PM)
I shall wait for it like I waited for N95 to drop to about RM1k then I'll be like trapping in the loop forever.
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i agreed...at least n95 8gb below rm1200 sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sharkteef @ Dec 3 2008, 04:10 PM)
why symbian and not winmo ? hmmmm......

and nokia still lags ler. they've added in so many canggih applications but still unable to run multiple simultaneously. all mobile phone manufacturers still need to address the processing power efficiency and of coz the main crap of all which is battery life.

it be really good one day to see nokia becoming the first ever to produce a well made sturdy phone with enough processing power to multitask simultaneously, have advanced features and a battery that runs on water which will last for 5 days before refill while being cost effective. i prayyyyy.....very hard i prayyyy....
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What do you mean nokia phones are not able to multitask smoothly..? I have atleast 4-5 apps runnig at times and none of them hang .. beside that numerous programs running as services in the background.. best aprt all this and still maintaining a phone functionality!

Symbian OS is getting better each year.. it is efficient and best part it utilize power consumption very good indeed. Better then most windows mobile phones..which as everyone knows are are so hefty and heavy on resources and power hungry.

I recently bought the cheapest N series in the market N78..and was surprised that with the ARM11 369MHz Single core processor it is as good in terms of performance as an OMAP dual core processor found in N82 or N95 8Gb with the same multitasking and 3D performance but increase in efficiency on the battery life and usage just by implementing the new revised FP2 Symbian OS 9.3.

with nokia ..you would expect the same very efficient and friendly GUIS and almost very current features you want and a good all round phone.. as nokia put it..a mobile computer!

The N97 is exactly what and advance iphone should be.. without the hype.

If you need a personal demonstartion i can assure you..i will prove you wrong.. btw what nokia pones are you referring too ?

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QUOTE(intune @ Dec 4 2008, 02:38 PM)
What do you mean nokia phones are not able to multitask smoothly..? I have atleast 4-5 apps runnig at times and none of them hang .. beside that numerous programs running as services in the background.. best aprt all this and still maintaining a phone functionality!

Symbian OS is getting better each year.. it is efficient and best part it utilize power consumption very good indeed. Better then most windows mobile phones..which as everyone knows are are so hefty and heavy on resources and power hungry.

I recently bought the cheapest N series in the market N78..and was surprised that with the ARM11 369MHz Single core processor it is as good in terms of performance as an OMAP dual core processor found in N82 or N95 8Gb with the same multitasking and 3D performance but increase in efficiency on the battery life and usage just by implementing the new revised FP2 Symbian OS 9.3.


Thats why i like nokia phone s..you would expect the same very efficient and friendly GUIS and almost very current features you want and a good all round phone.. as nokia put it..a mobile computer!

The N97 is exactly what and advance iphone should be.. without the hype.
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I think u are wrong,

Let me ask u a question, Core 2 Duo 2.6GHz compare with Pentium D 3.0GHz which one is faster and better?

N78 does not have a graphic accelerator chip. Try running Global Racing game in ur N78 and N82 and u will see the difference. N-GAGE and some other 3D game does not utilize the graphic accelerator thats why u see there isnt much difference compare to N82.

Why is N78 battery life is better ? Because it uses only single CPU, look at N95 N82 etc which using dual CPU, both of them having crappy battery life.

Why N78 cannot record video at 640x480 @ 30FPS? Because of the graphic accelerator and CPU.

Why N78 camera is only 3.2megapix? because of the OMAP Processor cannot support 5megapix. (graphic accelerator comes with the processor)

However 6220 classic using the same CPU as N78 but support 5megapix, quite amuzing, I have no idea why but the explaination above is true and facts smile.gif regarding N78
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QUOTE(chicaman @ Dec 4 2008, 02:52 PM)
I think u are wrong,

Let me ask u a question, Core 2 Duo 2.6GHz compare with Pentium D 3.0GHz which one is faster and better?

N78 does not have a graphic accelerator chip. Try running Global Racing game in ur N78 and N82 and u will see the difference. N-GAGE and some other 3D game does not utilize the graphic accelerator thats why u see there isnt much difference compare to N82.

Why is N78 battery life is better ? Because it uses only single CPU, look at N95 N82 etc which using dual CPU, both of them having crappy battery life.

Why N78 cannot record video at 640x480 @ 30FPS? Because of the graphic accelerator and CPU.

Why N78 camera is only 3.2megapix? because of the OMAP Processor cannot support 5megapix. (graphic accelerator comes with the processor)

However 6220 classic using the same CPU as N78 but support 5megapix, quite amuzing, I have no idea why but the explaination above is true and facts smile.gif regarding N78
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Yes i agree with the same facts.. i know most of what you talking about..I know n78 has no graphic accelerator.. i know all those.. what i was saying to previous user is to explain that multitasking capabilities on most N series and later nokia phones are getting better..

N78 and 6220 classic basically using the same processor and only thing is that 6220 classic does not have WIFI ( else i buy it! ) and also does not have FM transmitter.. also 6220 classic capture video at 30fps whilst n78 only at 15fps??? Also the 6220 can do TVOut!

The answer here is marketing strategies and Nokia been using these ploy for the longest time and now it is more evident in later models..now they are having difficult time and placing its products according to price and features since most features now are mostly similar s or should i say most users now wants to have the same features on all their nokia models..!

Interms of manufacturing it is better to produce the same internal parts and architecture rather then having few hundreds different parts and architectures.. so only thing nokia could do is to disable certain features internally but remain most general specs..by doing this they can segment modes according to price.

Nokia is one of biggest and leading phone manufacturer in the world because they have almost every phone for every segment of the market.. from the cheapest to the most expensive and most advanced.. In terms of manufacturing and R&D this would be a nightmare because to maintain such capacity would take a lot of resources and money. Thats why nokia phones are expensive.. unlike Iphone whereby till now only have 1 basic architechture... but at current already hold 16.9% world phone market share.. which is a great strategy!!


Again fren my comment earlier was not bout specifications but the multitasking capabilities..which i think most current nokia phones (N series ) are good at.. and compare batter performance are atleast better then most win mobile phones..

The issue here is depending on the user.. If you want excellent gaming graphics then definitely go with nokia phone swhich has 3D accelerators.. I would rather go for and all rounder phone which is cheap and equal acceptable performance! compare to the next manufacturer i think nokia is at the most top interms of price vs performance ratios.

Here is something to think about : N85 - Single Processor ARM11 369MHz with 3D accelerator???? (yep same processor as n78)

for more device specs comparison :

http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/matrix_s60_3ed_fp2_1.html

I do not aggree on your performace comparison they are many test out there whereby the single cpu arm11 beats even the OMAP dual core processors.. just check out this comments below.. NOkia has now proved that without 3D accelerator in ARM11 single processors it could run 3d games and perform multitasking and have better battery life.. At cuurent faster does not mean better.. efficiency and overall performance counts

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N85 vs N96 :The real Test:

Design and Ergonomics
The style of N96 is an intermediate solution between the older and newer concepts used by the company in product design. N85 definitely looks better, standing closer to the newer design trend adopted by Nokia. Have a look at 6600 and you¡¯re pretty sure to snatch the idea. N85 and N96 are entirely composed of plastic while the 6600 slide makes an extensive use of metal, though. Materials other than plastic are reserved for Eseries and S40 products, in Nokia¡¯s philosophy. N85 and N96 display an almost identical quality of plastic save for the face panel, which is definitely better in Nokia N85. The rounded, lacquered casing looks quite elegant; both smartphones are rather exposed to soiling, though.The quality of assembly is on a comparable level for the both models, the only exception being the slider mechanism. It produces a much better impression in N85. The N96 has a jerky, tight slider, which might be a bit annoying to the more picky buyers. The size and weight are two of the major points making up the ergonomics score. N96 is too wide to sit in the hand naturally. That happens primarily because of a large screen, N85 has a screen with a diagonal shorter by a 0.2¡¯¡¯ ¨C the same situation with N95 and N95 8Gb. A bigger casing, surprisingly, does not improve the operational comfort of the N96 keyboard. The upper button row is too close to the edge, and the rest of the rows suffer from a poor segmentation. SMS typing feels much better with an N85.

A couple of words on the colors. N96 will only come in black, and N85 is currently available in purple and brown, with a few extra colors to come. The lens framing alternatively serves as a tip-up prop enabling the phone to stand on a surface when you want to comfortably browse through your photos and videos. N85 has nothing of the kind, but you will eventually discover an FM transmitter which is nowhere around in N96. The charger jack is the same thing with the microUSB slot in N85, making it the first Nokia smartphone to possess a USB charging capability. N96 doesn¡¯t replenish the battery charge while being connected to another device with the data cable.
An active lens guard is something only found in N85. A slide of the lens guard launches the camera application, which is just immensely handy. Dedicated player buttons are grouped around the central joystick button. With N85, you get these buttons only backlit if the player is running ¨C not a critical but very neat designer¡¯s trick. We are generally inclined to think that Nokia didn¡¯t care too much about the appearance, looking more on the lumberjack¡¯s side rather than on the gentleman¡¯s, and doesn¡¯t stand well against the elegance of N85.

The screen of N85 is identical in size to the original N95 (2.6¡¯¡¯) but bases off the AM-OLED technology. This helps to notch down the power consumption and gives a better looking palette. Oh well, the view angles also appear wider and the refresh rate is pleasantly high. On the whole, this screen is obviously better than the display of N96, - but don¡¯t take this as an offense to the latter, its screen is just plainly good but N85 offers a perfection in this aspect.
In the visual comparison with N96. It seems to fail in the competition with N85.To do N96 justice, we must tell you that the color palette reproduced by its screen looks a bit more natural, but that doesn¡¯t help the cause much. A larger diagonal is a much more serious matter, doubling its importance for every fan of digital books optimized for reading from a screen of a handheld gadget. Both models offer a comparable quality of TV picture when you use the TV-out.Camera
Following the tradition, Nokia equipped the two models with a (high-)standard camera unit carrying Carl Zeiss optics. Upon a closer inspection it is revealed that the photo quality is actually different. Prior to testing we made sure that all the settings had been set the same (the flash is identical in both models, - a double LED unit a bit weaker than the xenon flash of N82, for example). The idea is simple: just have a look at the pictures and see how the focal distance and viewing angles are related. Definitly N85 is leading in test with flash turned on and off alike.

Hardware Platform

The hardware platform of Nokia N96 is totally different form the chipset used in N85 and other Nokias. The new hardware platform is a Nomadics STn8815 chip by STMicroelectronics. This fact caused a great amount of arguments, for some people had recklessly put an equation mark between N85 and N96, wasting their breath about the same hardware lying in the base of the two handsets. Nokia N85 uses the regular hardware same with N78 and N81. As seen from the test score, N96 displays a lower performance than N85 and a much worse one than N95 basing off OMAP 2420. The lack of a 3D accelerator is blatant in the JBenchmark 3D test. N96 lags behind in other tests as well. The gap may be accounted for by the use of a newly developed platform, while N85 employs a platform which has been through a long evolution of improvements and optimizations shared by Nokia N78 and N81 models. There¡¯s little sense in repeating the descriptions of this platform since it has already been dealt with in our review of Samsung i450. Despite the lags seen in the tests, N85 and N96 have identical audio quality, a bit above the sounding of N78 and a bit below than Samsung i8510 INNOV8. The audio quality provided by N78 seems to please the majority of the owners, so an even better sound is simply great.
Let¡¯s have a brief overview the difference between the STn8810 and OMAP 2420 chipsets. Theoretically possessing worse characteristics than TI OMAP 2520, the new chipset pays back with a lower power consumption, high sound quality (out of the box, we don¡¯t regard the possible use of additional dedicated sound processing chips) and better video processing algorithms. The most effort was invested into making the battery life longer. It¡¯s about the time to dismiss the fear that the low-capacity battery used in Nokia N96 (950 mAh) won¡¯t be enough for comfortable operation. Actually, the device can run longer than most TI OMAP solutions, the advantage becoming increasingly obvious during video and music playback. STn8815 is optimized for minimal energy consumption; it will automatically drop the CPU frequency to a level sufficient for normal functioning of an application but not a notch above. It also makes an extensive use of smart accelerators and divided calculation techniques to drop the load on the CPU. Inactive chipset components are automatically powered off until a need arises to put them back online, the CPU stays in a power-saving mode as long as possible. Code execution efficiency was maximized through numerous optimizations as well.STMicroelectronics Nomadics STn8815 Specifications We didn¡¯t manage to spot any tangible performance boost in most menus and applications as compared to OMAP 2420. The lack of a hardware 3D accelerator is the only weak point distinguishing STMicroelectronics chips from their OMAP 2420/2430 counterparts as goes to performance. On the other hand, the use of 3D acceleration was intentionally minimized in N95 and N82 (it wasn¡¯t even used in N-Gage games) and totally missing in Samsung i550/i560, so we wouldn¡¯t consider this lack a critical downside of STn8815-based products.


Overall

We believe that N96 can not justify the high price it sells for by its scarce advantages. We would never recommend it as a replacement for N95 or its upgraded version N95 8Gb ¨C you are basically getting nothing from what you would want to see in a smartphone priced like that. A digital TV tuner isn¡¯t overly demanded on the market, so this addition won¡¯t pass for a real advantage. The rest of improvements are even less significant. At the same time, N85 appears to be a perfectly balanced solution worthy of being titled as the successor to N95 with multiple improvements in all departments of functionality and also a better looking appearance, higher quality of materials and assembly.
So for Sure N85 is definitly the winner...


N85 / n96 controversy
http://smape.com/en/reviews/nokia/Nokia_N85_N96-comp.html

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QUOTE(intune @ Dec 4 2008, 02:38 PM)
What do you mean nokia phones are not able to multitask smoothly..? I have atleast 4-5 apps runnig at times and none of them hang .. beside that numerous programs running as services in the background.. best aprt all this and still maintaining a phone functionality!

Symbian OS is getting better each year.. it is efficient and best part it utilize power consumption very good indeed. Better then most windows mobile phones..which as everyone knows are are so hefty and heavy on resources and power hungry.

I recently bought the cheapest N series in the market N78..and was surprised that with the ARM11 369MHz Single core processor it is as good in terms of performance as an OMAP dual core processor found in N82 or N95 8Gb with the same multitasking and 3D performance but increase in efficiency on the battery life and usage just by implementing the new revised FP2 Symbian OS 9.3.

with nokia ..you would expect the same very efficient and friendly GUIS and almost very current features you want and a good all round phone.. as nokia put it..a mobile computer!

The N97 is exactly what and advance iphone should be.. without the hype.

If you need a personal demonstartion i can assure you..i will prove you wrong.. btw what nokia pones are you referring too ?
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i own a 6220c and n79. both cannot run more than 3 apps at a time.
lets take my n79 into discussion coz its newer.

in car - i run 3 apps minimum.
a) fm transmitter
b) my music player playing my fav mp3's in my car stereo
c) gmxt - coz i prefer to hear the sexy voices thru my car stereo instead of the small speakers.

then i have themes installed for cosmetic reasoning. and i have fon calls and sms coming in for thats the main purpose of a phone.
the breathing lights are on, coz i like it and its funky. and also auto rotate is on for a better view of gps nav.

in the n79 thread i've made it clear, anymore than these 3 apps running, the phone will be extremely sluggish and it will crash in a matter of time.

now what sort of applications do u run ? camera + opera + widg ? lolz.

i've used this on a day to day basis. i've tried other n79's and they are all the same. personal demonstration i dont need. u cant prove me wrong. i can prove u right.

now more methods of multitasking. assuming one is at home, u have a stereo. so u switch on

a) fm transmitter
b) have the wifi on
c) n79 has internet radio so lets stream and have music rather than the normal mp3's.
d) opera browser's on, so lets log in to msn via wifi as well.
e) u can have any one more app before it slows down to a crawl. so lets take gmxt out of this equation since i'm at home and instead i'll game. i love poker.

or i'll edit the pics i took this afternoon and upload it on to my blog. nono that cant happen. coz i can multitask that much but both my phones cant take it anymore.

dude, i'm not anti nokia, i've been a nokia fan for a long time, but not to the extent of fanboyism. i suggest you do some ACTUAL multitasking rather than opening light applications.


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^I think u have to take in the amount of physical memory available into account, I think N79 has only less than 96 MB of RAM, the concept of virtual memory doesn't exist in Symbian. If you have seen other current phones has the ability to handle the tasks u throw in, then kindly name me the model and make.

and come on lar, if u can afford an N79, then u sure have a desktop or laptop in ur home, furthermore, what's the point of transmitting FM signal to the home stereo? I don't get it, many newer hifi even got USB port, it's not hard to load tons of mp3s into one thumb drive, using the FM transmitter will just degrade the sound quality.

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Dec 4 2008, 08:21 PM)
^I think u have to take in the amount of physical memory available into account, I think N79 has only less than 96 MB of RAM, the concept of virtual memory doesn't exist in Symbian. If you have seen other current phones has the ability to handle the tasks u throw in, then kindly name me the model and make.

and come on lar, if u can afford an N79, then u sure have a desktop or laptop in ur home, furthermore, what's the point of transmitting FM signal to the home stereo? I don't get it, many newer hifi even got USB port, it's not hard to load tons of mp3s into one thumb drive, using the FM transmitter will just degrade the sound quality.
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car stereo leh, got n79 sure la play nais music in car thru fm transmitter. (btw both cars o'mine cannot change players if not long ago i go kedai abang buy the one with USB and kad slot)
u dont have to understand the home principle. juz understand the multitasking "in car" steps can liao. common logic ma no meh ?
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in car - i run 3 apps minimum.
a) fm transmitter
b) my music player playing my fav mp3's in my car stereo
c) gmxt - coz i prefer to hear the sexy voices thru my car stereo instead of the small speakers.

then i have themes installed for cosmetic reasoning. and i have fon calls and sms coming in for thats the main purpose of a phone.
the breathing lights are on, coz i like it and its funky. and also auto rotate is on for a better view of gps nav.


Function a + b + c make the phone lag? That's new to me... On my current old N95, running music player, browser and GMXT wont cause any lag, just sudden app shutdown due to limited 28MB ram.

btw, theme wont cause any significant impact in ram or cpu usage unless it's badly optimized with big umcompressed image file.

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Dec 4 2008, 08:21 PM)
^I think u have to take in the amount of physical memory available into account, I think N79 has only less than 96 MB of RAM, the concept of virtual memory doesn't exist in Symbian. If you have seen other current phones has the ability to handle the tasks u throw in, then kindly name me the model and make.

and come on lar, if u can afford an N79, then u sure have a desktop or laptop in ur home, furthermore, what's the point of transmitting FM signal to the home stereo? I don't get it, many newer hifi even got USB port, it's not hard to load tons of mp3s into one thumb drive, using the FM transmitter will just degrade the sound quality.
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Actually for a Symbian S60 phone with 128MB RAM (70-80MB+ available RAM), it is virtually impossible to deplete it. I own an E71 and I have at one time more than 8 applications including music application, Garmin Mobile XT, 2 JAVA games, etc in the background. The remaining RAM was around 30MB. I could switch between applications without any problem, so I don't understand why his N79 is giving him problems in this area.
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I just tested my N79. I opened this apps =

1. garmin
2. music player
3. ngage game
4. browser with wifi on
5. photo album
6. calendar
7. notes

no problem at all. My N79 has almost the same spec as the N78 (same CPU and no 3D accelerator also). It can take 30fps video.
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QUOTE(DigitalKL @ Dec 4 2008, 09:54 PM)
I just tested my N79. I opened this apps =

1. garmin
2. music player
3. ngage game
4. browser with wifi on
5. photo album
6. calendar
7. notes

no problem at all. My N79 has almost the same spec as the N78 (same CPU and no 3D accelerator also). It can take 30fps video.
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lolz, open can open. how do u use gmxt with ngage together ?
which one u see or u got special screen application which can split in half ?
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running on the background ma....
garmin will still give you the verbal directions even with music or ngage running. of course you wont be able to see the map
im uploading a video to youtube now....will post later the URL

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QUOTE(DigitalKL @ Dec 4 2008, 09:59 PM)
running on the background ma....
garmin will still give you the verbal directions even with music or ngage running. of course you wont be able to see the map
im uploading a video to youtube now....will post later the URL
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wah..never try it yet..doesnt bother ur garmin at all? no lag? no hang ?
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wow that is serious multitasking!
But i'd suggest...just get a good PDA for mutitasking!
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Wow... tis n97 really amusing ..

will let go my xperia and e71 for this baby.. lol
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QUOTE(sharkteef @ Dec 4 2008, 07:32 PM)
i own a 6220c and n79. both cannot run more than 3 apps at a time.
lets take my n79 into discussion coz its newer.

in car - i run 3 apps minimum.
a) fm transmitter
b) my music player playing my fav mp3's in my car stereo
c) gmxt - coz i prefer to hear the sexy voices thru my car stereo instead of the small speakers.

then i have themes installed for cosmetic reasoning. and i have fon calls and sms coming in for thats the main purpose of a phone.
the breathing lights are on, coz i like it and its funky. and also auto rotate is on for a better view of gps nav.

in the n79 thread i've made it clear, anymore than these 3 apps running, the phone will be extremely sluggish and it will crash in a matter of time.

now what sort of applications do u run ? camera + opera + widg ? lolz.

i've used this on a day to day basis. i've tried other n79's and they are all the same. personal demonstration i dont need. u cant prove me wrong. i can prove u right.

now more methods of multitasking. assuming one is at home, u have a stereo. so u switch on

a) fm transmitter
b) have the wifi on
c) n79 has internet radio so lets stream and have music rather than the normal mp3's.
d) opera browser's on, so lets log in to msn via wifi as well.
e) u can have any one more app before it slows down to a crawl. so lets take gmxt out of this equation since i'm at home and instead i'll game. i love poker.

or i'll edit the pics i took this afternoon and upload it on to my blog. nono that cant happen. coz i can multitask that much but both my phones cant take it anymore.

dude, i'm not anti nokia, i've been a nokia fan for a long time, but not to the extent of fanboyism. i suggest you do some ACTUAL multitasking rather than opening light applications.
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F u and you assumptions!.

These is what i mean by multitasking..: (my version! )

1. Nokia Webbrowser..(playing Youtube)
2. Opera mini (RSS Feed - lowyat - update autop periodically )
3. Music player (playing my tunes of cos)
4. WIfi On ( Connected to my WIFI Network )
5. Simple Server (streaming, remote access to N78) - google you dik
5. Findme ( Facebook app - realtime update)
6. Fring (VOIP)
7. TurboMSN
8. GPS?? WTF i need it at home..?
9. of cos I'l be waiting for a call and i have my bluetooth wireless set on.. when i just get calls just click and answer lah..


No problems at all.. i do not know what the hell wrong with your phone..maybe you arent using it right cool2.gif



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u still havent explained to me how u use all those apps at the same time ?
u can open it, but it doesnt mean u're fully processing on it.

u're streaming youtube, and u're listening to your music player. so what are u hearing exactly ? noise ? or are u some rockhard DJ ?
you are one funny guy. so i will leave this as it is. if you'd like to learn what real multitasking on the phone is, you can pay me to teach you. for you i charge by the hour.
sayonara funny man.


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are u somekind of idiot or something.. what you think this is windows os? lol.

Of cos you can do all the things at one time..thats is what you call multitasking.. just look at the definition of multitasking while you at it..

you come in the thread like some kind of guru knows it all..but you yourselves dont show us what you mean...

I think youre comment was answered by the previous user.. and i aggree to that comment..

of cos youre processing it.. its running in the background as "services" like RSS feed it is processing it unti a neww rss feed is available.. so it loads it in the background..

While at i can be accessing my N78 Memory card and downloading and uploading files or music using "simple center server" ..which i do most times..

My web browser with youtube is always open.. so i switched and play it once i find a new clip.. my music player automatically slows down the volume while i play the clips.. try it you fool.. you havent try t you said it cant be done! That is freaking multitasking..

You want me do a video for you to explain all this.. lol...

At the same time Wifi is On ., Fring is on.. ph yeah of cos phone is on...in the background of cos as sevices...

What 3 PRIMARY apps are you having problems with.. do explain rather then whining about it..oh yes you mentioned GMXT + FM transmitter and what else themess?? aith auto remote.. dear me..

I did mentioned Nokia Symbian multitasking capabilities are getting better but not perfect.. if you want better then of of cos get a netbook or damn fine PDA.. do remember.. nokias are phones first..

Try not to be so egoistic in the thread,,maybe your somekind of symbian guru or somethin, but putting the rest of ppl down on the thread is not the kind of attitude that a community here wouldlike to see.. were here to discuss .. rest my case.

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are u somekind of idiot or something.. what you think this is windows os? lol.

Of cos you can do all the things at one time..thats is what you call multitasking.. just look at the definition of multitasking while you at it..

you come in the thread like some kind of guru knows it all..but you yourselves dont show us what you mean...

I think youre comment was answered by the previous user.. and i aggree to that comment..

of cos youre processing it.. its running in the background as "services" like RSS feed it is processing it unti a neww rss feed is available.. so it loads it in the background..

While at i can be accessing my N78 Memory card and downloading and uploading files or music using "simple center server" ..which i do most times..

My web browser with youtube is always open.. so i switched and play it once i find a new clip.. my music player automatically slows down the volume while i play the clips.. try it you fool.. you havent try t you said it cant be done!  That is freaking multitasking..

You want me do a video for you to explain all this.. lol...

At the same time Wifi is On ., Fring is on.. ph yeah of cos phone is on...in the background of cos as sevices...

What 3 PRIMARY apps are you having problems with.. do explain rather then whining about it..oh yes you mentioned GMXT + FM transmitter and what else themess?? aith auto remote.. dear me..

I did mentioned Nokia Symbian multitasking capabilities are getting better but not perfect.. if you want better then of of cos get a netbook or damn fine PDA.. do remember.. nokias are phones first..

Try not to be so egoistic in the thread,,maybe your somekind of symbian guru or somethin, but putting the rest of ppl down on the thread is not the kind of attitude that a community here wouldlike to see.. were here to discuss .. rest my case.
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agree v u thumbup.gif
anywhere i did try what he suggested at my n79 oso, doesnt really serious and happen like he mentions...
might be software version or memory card usage different ? hmm.gif

a bit out of topic~ kaka
so might N series "take over" E series at the future ?
qwerty at N series ady....

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agree and support u  thumbup.gif
anywhere i did try what he suggested at my n79 oso, doesnt really serious and happen like he mentions...
or might be his software version or memory card usage different ?  hmm.gif

a bit out of topic~ kaka
so might N series "take over" E series at the future ?
qwerty at N series ady....
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Yeah.. im still testing my multitasking with more apps now.. using music player, google maps + nokia maps, rotateme (landscape mode), changing themes, what else.. browsing of cos..using opera and nokia browser..while all this connected to my wifi network.. still no apparent lagg or hang..oh yeh i also tried playing asphalt ..no problems too.. i just had to switch the volume cos i need to hear my music at the background ..lol

mind you i upgrade my memory card to microsdHC 8GB recently and as always i try to install all apps on the MC rather on C to free as much space on C:

N series i guess will always be the multimedia flagship of NOkia phones..but the N & E series is crossing path somehow ..what i mean most phones are very similar in feature indeed.. just the way its used is bit different..

For me personally this year, nokia is slowly playing the with price vs performance tactics and its working.. just imagine.. all this power/feature for less then 1K!...definitely looking good for consumers! if things keep going this way.. only thing is try not to grab the inital phone when it comes out..its definitely too costly..i personally rather wait for few months..so then can afford one.. to me.. a n78 is enuff power for me now..im happy with it.. no complains here..

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QUOTE(intune @ Dec 5 2008, 08:34 PM)
Yeah.. im still testing my multitasking with more apps now.. using music player, google maps + nokia maps, rotateme (landscape mode), changing themes, what else.. browsing of cos..using opera and nokia browser..while all this connected to my wifi network.. still no apparent lagg or hang..oh yeh  i also tried playing asphalt ..no problems too.. i just had to switch the volume cos i need to hear my music at the background ..lol

mind you i upgrade my memory card to microsdHC 8GB recently and as always i try to install all apps on the MC rather on C to free as much space on C:

N series i guess will always be the multimedia flagship of NOkia phones..but the N & E series is crossing path somehow ..what i mean most phones are very similar in feature indeed.. just the way its used is bit different..

For me personally this year, nokia is slowly playing the with price vs performance tactics and its working.. just imagine.. all this power/feature for less then 1K!...definitely looking good for consumers! if things keep going this way.. only thing is try not to grab the inital phone when it comes out..its definitely too costly..i personally rather wait for few months..so then can afford one.. to me.. a n78 is enuff power for me now..im happy with it.. no complains here..
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damn..that really multi tasking.. i hope no matter what, nokia, sony or motorola ..they can upgrade their proc, ram in the future so we can do more multitasking like pc... nokia quad core anyone ? sweat.gif
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its totally a competitor of X1. haha..biggrin.gif But for me, i prefer N97 than X1.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Badboy @ Dec 5 2008, 11:20 PM)
its totally a competitor of X1. haha..biggrin.gif But for me, i prefer N97 than X1.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Hinika @ Dec 5 2008, 08:11 PM)
a bit out of topic~ kaka
so might N series "take over" E series at the future ?
qwerty at N series ady....
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Nokia need to differentiate through built-up and design, and some extra functions... cool2.gif
E-series more of business and N-series more of multimedia,eventhou actually both works the same thingy,guess,Nokia spending more on Nseries than Eseries... whistling.gif
probably Nokia can introduce kind of bundled application for business and multimedia differences... rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(hanieyf @ Dec 5 2008, 09:02 PM)
damn..that really multi tasking.. i hope no matter what, nokia, sony or motorola ..they can upgrade their proc, ram in the future so we can do more multitasking like pc... nokia quad core anyone ?  sweat.gif
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that's why,hopefully the introduce of new firmware really works for bugs fixed and efficiency... smile.gif

QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 6 2008, 12:00 AM)
Yes...to me Nokia..is always in my hand :-)
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QUOTE(Otoyama88 @ Dec 5 2008, 01:40 PM)
Wow... tis n97 really amusing ..

will let go my xperia and e71 for this baby.. lol
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QUOTE(sharkteef @ Dec 5 2008, 07:23 PM)
u still havent explained to me how u use all those apps at the same time ?
u can open it, but it doesnt mean u're fully processing on it.

u're streaming youtube, and u're listening to your music player. so what are u hearing exactly ? noise ? or are u some rockhard DJ ?
you are one funny guy. so i will leave this as it is. if you'd like to learn what real multitasking on the phone is, you can pay me to teach you. for you i charge by the hour.
sayonara funny man.
@moderators - srry for being off topic.
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one simple question, can your brain concentrate 100% on both things at the same time? wakaka
even in PC also the same, when an application is running in the foreground, all the other opened windows will be pushed to background, they still in process albeit the scheduler will give them lower priority. For single core processor, it can only execute 1 thread at one time, and the context switcher will switch between threads back and forth, hence your idea of "real" multitasking actually does not exist.

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wow...so lucky that i dint buy x1 yet...erm will it out in january 2009?
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Dec 6 2008, 01:20 AM)
don't get so hype yet, so far none of us know how the 5th edition perform in the real world.


Added on December 6, 2008, 1:28 am
one simple question, can your brain concentrate 100% on both things at the same time? wakaka
even in PC also the same, when an application is running in the foreground, all the other opened windows will be pushed to background, they still in process albeit the scheduler will give them lower priority. For single core processor, it can only execute 1 thread at one time, and the context switcher will switch between threads back and forth, hence your idea of "real" multitasking actually does not exist.
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I think Nokia find a winner in the single core ARM11 Processors used in 6220 Classic, N78, N79, N85 seems is able to do most major task as fast and in some case faster then the OMAP Dual core equivalents and yet maintaining battery efficiency.. better it has brought cost down..ony missing thing is the 3D accelerator.. most of this models are Ngage compatible..therefore shows Ngage games works ok without 3D accelerators. I would prefer better battery perfomance then full on 3D performance..infact i can play star wars unleased and 'one' quite ok on my N78 even though no evidence on accelerators...

Anyways..were talking about mobile multimedia computing here as the terms used by Nokia to explain its new N series phones. Few years ago i cant imagine a mobile Phone can do all this multitasking and yet maintain the useability of a phone. How times have change. Its a great time for consumers.

Im eager to see the new performance of the new Symbian 5 bundle with teh ARM or OMAP processors.. maybe better efficiency and performance? thumbup.gif ..Until real benchmarks are out only then can we know for sure.. drool.gif

Also bit disapointing to know the n97 only using high clock ARM11 rather then OMAP 3 cry.gif

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Well the good news is both ARM platforms being used in recent Nokia products are ARM core version 11 or simply ARM11. The Texas Instrument OMAP-series of ARM processors are based on ARM11 application processor and an ARM9 baseband processor for communications. The OMAP has does have a PowerVR MBX graphics accelerator. Nokia is currently progressing to a single core ARM CPU based on Freescale MXC-300 369MHz. It does have accelerators for graphics but it is not based on PowerVR but an in-house developed IPU video accelerator. Most of the APIs are accelerated on the core.

So guys, no need to argue. What this OMAP has dual core and what golden-eye processor... etc. Here are references for your needs:

A Family of Texas Instrument OMAP family of ARM Processors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OMAP

Official Texas Instrument OMAP product page
http://focus.ti.com/paramsearch/docs/param...8&familyId=1525

A History of Nokia processors used based on products
http://www.nokia-tuning.net/index.php?s=processor

Simple Feature Set page for Freescale MXC-300-30

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a300mxc

Official Freescale MXC-300-30 product page

http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/p...?code=MXC300-30


Remember to check out core diagrams of their products and you get to see what I mean.

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Dec 6 2008, 01:48 PM)
Well the good news is both ARM platforms being used in recent Nokia products are ARM core version 11 or simply ARM11. The Texas Instrument OMAP-series of ARM processors are based on ARM11 application processor and an ARM9 baseband processor for communications. The OMAP has does have a PowerVR MBX graphics accelerator. Nokia is currently progressing to a single core ARM CPU based on Freescale MXC-300 369MHz. It does have accelerators for graphics but it is not based on PowerVR but an in-house developed IPU video accelerator. Most of the APIs are accelerated on the core.

So guys, no need to argue. What this OMAP has dual core and what golden-eye processor... etc. Here are references for your needs:

A Family of Texas Instrument OMAP family of ARM Processors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OMAP

Official Texas Instrument OMAP product page
http://focus.ti.com/paramsearch/docs/param...8&familyId=1525

A History of Nokia processors used based on products
http://www.nokia-tuning.net/index.php?s=processor

Simple Feature Set page for Freescale MXC-300-30

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a300mxc

Official Freescale MXC-300-30 product page

http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/p...?code=MXC300-30
Remember to check out core diagrams of their products and you get to see what I mean.
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I guess the IPU video accelerators works just fine playing ngage games but not as good as a dedicated 3D processors
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I guess the IPU video accelerators works just fine playing ngage games but not as good as a dedicated 3D processors
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Well, the thing is both are built-in accelerators. A dedicated 3D processor implies that there should be a separate chip in the entire platform of the product. That is quite impossible considering power efficiency and low IC count is the point here. All I can say is that the PowerVR MBX accelerator is more capable than the other due to its involvement in mobile graphics API. So the point is how good is the accelerator rather than the existence of an accelerator. You need a graphic accelerator to power the display without one, you can kiss goodbye to graphical user interface (as an example).

The N-gage is Nokia's platform for bringing gaming services with the focus of bringing better interactive 3D (as well as regular) games to mobile phones. One reason N-gage games are not available for every Nokia phone is due to the need to specialize graphical coding to a particular platform. It first supported TI OMAP processors and then rest comes in. Also the N-gage program seems to be reserved to a select few of mobile phones, as I've seen N-gage originated games playing ok on mobile phones not yet supported by N-gage.

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Dec 6 2008, 04:07 PM)
Well, the thing is both are built-in accelerators. A dedicated 3D processor implies that there should be a separate chip in the entire platform of the product. That is quite impossible considering power efficiency and low IC count is the point here. All I can say is that the PowerVR MBX accelerator is more capable than the other due to its involvement in mobile graphics API. So the point is how good is the accelerator rather than the existence of an accelerator. You need a graphic accelerator to power the display without one, you can kiss goodbye to graphical user interface (as an example).

The N-gage is Nokia's platform for bringing gaming services with the focus of bringing better interactive 3D (as well as regular) games to mobile phones. One reason N-gage games are not available for every Nokia phone is due to the need to specialize graphical coding to a particular platform. It first supported TI OMAP processors and then rest comes in. Also the N-gage program seems to be reserved to a select few of mobile phones, as I've seen N-gage originated games playing ok on mobile phones not yet supported by N-gage.
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what do u mean ? playing ok? but not supported? mind to elaborate, kind of confusing here rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(hanieyf @ Dec 6 2008, 04:31 PM)
what do u mean ? playing ok? but not supported? mind to elaborate, kind of confusing here   rclxub.gif
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If you read the bolded sentences you made. They played ok. But because N-gage was not made available to these phones, users have an impression that it did not have 'dedicated 3D accelerator'. So if N-gage is not supporting these phones, 3D games are off-limits to these phones.

My point in that statement is that, you can buy the same games from other channels (like mobile game sites) instead of getting them from N-gage. The difference of a game played on mobile with 'good' graphic accelerator and an 'just ok' graphic accelerator is the gaming experience. So that depends on the developer whether number of polygons (better quality graphics), number of effects (experience) and smoothness of gaming (fps). They can be played on any mobile phone with a graphic accelerator, but it is the level of experience the user gets.

Case in point: My E71 doesn't have 'dedicated 3D accelerator' but it played 3D snakes pretty alright albeit a little laddy at times. Then it can also play FIFA2008 which was available N-gage. Same level of experience and graphical quality. Point? Optimizing games for more graphical accelerators. This is where standards like OpenGL ES is required. The PowerVR MBX conforms to that standard just like Direct X for x86/64 gaming.

This article HERE explains the point above in a very good way.

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Dec 6 2008, 04:07 PM)
Well, the thing is both are built-in accelerators. A dedicated 3D processor implies that there should be a separate chip in the entire platform of the product. That is quite impossible considering power efficiency and low IC count is the point here. All I can say is that the PowerVR MBX accelerator is more capable than the other due to its involvement in mobile graphics API. So the point is how good is the accelerator rather than the existence of an accelerator. You need a graphic accelerator to power the display without one, you can kiss goodbye to graphical user interface (as an example).

The N-gage is Nokia's platform for bringing gaming services with the focus of bringing better interactive 3D (as well as regular) games to mobile phones. One reason N-gage games are not available for every Nokia phone is due to the need to specialize graphical coding to a particular platform. It first supported TI OMAP processors and then rest comes in. Also the N-gage program seems to be reserved to a select few of mobile phones, as I've seen N-gage originated games playing ok on mobile phones not yet supported by N-gage.
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Got your point.. Ngage games played ok on my Phone (N78) with a hack ngage patch before the official support ..so i would adhere and aggree to that comment..basically most later nokia models now support 3d video APIs..just another marketing strategy by nokia to control those gaming platforms..

Im just suprise to see then even the mid level to high level series now using single core processors (N85)which means 3D accelerators are not of specific importance anymore since the ARM11 Processor support Video IPU..which basically supports Ngage and also most 3D games in the market.

What seems to be importance for Nokia I think is to produce cost effective architecture which can supports most features consumer wants at affordable manufacturing and sales cost and pricing.. thats why we can see more affordable mid level phones which has more and more features. Good strategy Nokia!

As mentioned before.. i would rather see a phone with all round performance at affordable price.. if i want a gaming platform might just wait fr sony to come out with a sony psp phone.. blush.gif ..Do rememebr nokia is phone first rather then a gaming console.. even though it wish to market itself in the future as one..but i dont see that happening yet.. cool2.gif

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I think Nokia find a winner in the single core ARM11 Processors used in 6220 Classic, N78, N79, N85 seems is able to do most major task as fast and in some case faster then the OMAP Dual core equivalents and yet maintaining battery efficiency.. better it has brought cost down..ony missing thing is the 3D accelerator..  most of this models are Ngage compatible..therefore shows Ngage games works ok without 3D accelerators. I would prefer better battery perfomance then full on 3D performance..infact i can play star wars unleased and 'one' quite ok on my N78 even though no evidence on accelerators...

Anyways..were talking about mobile multimedia computing here as the terms used by Nokia to explain its new N series phones. Few years ago i cant imagine a mobile Phone can do all this multitasking and yet maintain the useability of a phone. How times have change. Its a great time for consumers.

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mobilearsenal already mentioned that they are thankful that the N79 did not use the dual processor - read it here -
I quote = "Thank the gods Nokia didn’t want to stick to the Dual ARM CPU from N96 that had quite a weak performance. Instead N79 also has the 369 MHz processor that has no problems providing some real speed. "

http://mobilearsenal.com/review/nokia_n79_...u_hardware.html

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mobilearsenal already mentioned that they are thankful that the N79 did not use the dual processor - read it here -
I quote = "Thank the gods Nokia didn’t want to stick to the Dual ARM CPU from N96 that had quite a weak performance. Instead N79 also has the 369 MHz processor that has no problems providing some real speed. "

http://mobilearsenal.com/review/nokia_n79_...u_hardware.html
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Ah great for you to point that out..

i was pasting this article regardging the n85/n96 controversy..

http://smape.com/en/reviews/nokia/Nokia_N85_N96-comp.html

I honestly think the N96 was just a good ploy before the "tube" and N97 makes its debut..never thot it was a good buy at all.. IMHO tongue.gif

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From the N85 vs N96, it seems that N85 is what Nokia has experimented on their future CPU platform, which means in the future Nokia will avoid the dual CPU configuration ?

Anyway, graphics in most Ngage games are just barely comparable to NDS, can't even match PSP, but then who would want to charge their phone every 4 hours like PSP? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Dec 6 2008, 06:02 PM)
From the N85 vs N96, it seems that N85 is what Nokia has experimented on their future CPU platform, which means in the future Nokia will avoid the dual CPU configuration ?

Anyway, graphics in most Ngage games are just barely comparable to NDS, can't even match PSP, but then who would want to charge their phone every 4 hours like PSP? laugh.gif
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Yes, definitely agree with you. We're beginning to see upcoming products even N85 using Freescale MXC-300 369MHz ARM11 processors. In fact, it was first introduced on entry level S60 phones and it is now gaining all the way to products like XpressMusic 5800, N97 and etc. It would be more cost effective to maintain a low IC count platform and integrate all the accelerators into one. In the past, we have Symbian OS operated by an ARM application processor while the communication/GSM stack is operated by another ARM processor.

Although redundancy is reduced (when the single core ARM is halt, the communication stacks fails too), I would envision Symbian S60 implement a 'partition' in the CPU resources to keep both sides (application vs GSM stack) separated. I think it would be better to implement software rendering while keeping certain APIs accelerated on the IPU. But no doubt, the Freescale CPU is a low-cost platform for Nokia.
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X1 the best  laugh.gif
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I am sure it is. It is as good as any HTC latest generation of PDA phones. The panels interface is however a very good idea. Too bad, thats it. After that, its the same WinMo interface. The same goes for S60 symbian phones.
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seems like nowdays high end phone now will be price 3K and above...even more expensive than pda phone.... and yet still ppl buy like $$ doesnt matter sweat.gif sweat.gif this also put all the mobile enthusiast more difficult to own these in the beginning stage doh.gif doh.gif
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yeah... now there is really no definite terms for PDA. and this is also categorized as PDA as well. or if u want to call it smartphone, suit urself. smile.gif
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Just afraid before N97 come here N98 launch already and then so on until N110 laugh.gif

back to the serious part i dun think a lot of people gonna buy this (Because of price of course). even the tube already cost near 2k. Unless N97 gonna sell 2.5k (even N96 cost 3k) laugh.gif
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I think when N97 launchs the price will be insanely high, somewhere around RM3500-RM4000, since tube already costs RM2k. Better wait a bit and let the price down if u r interested to buy.
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if n97 going to rm3500 its damn expensive then..but if n97 around rm2+++ and tube around rm18++, better n97 then
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if n97 going to rm3500 its damn expensive then..but if n97 around rm2+++ and tube around rm18++, better n97 then
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Thats why I have a feeling that it could be RM2500 and above. When N97 is released, the 5800 probably has gone down in price range. So N97 may not be too high. Hopefully N96 has taught Nokia from its not so successful product life.
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Dec 7 2008, 06:59 PM)
Thats why I have a feeling that it could be RM2500 and above. When N97 is released, the 5800 probably has gone down in price range. So N97 may not be too high. Hopefully N96 has taught Nokia from its not so successful product life.
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yes...n96 is a failure in N-series.. hope n97 doesnt follow his big brother
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Yeah so the most important thing N97 must achieve is good battery life. The 5800 will show how good is the S60 touch interface. Nokia can learn from that and improvise for N97. The 5800 is expendable and Nokia loose nothing. The N-series brand value however is important. So Nokia better get the battery performance up to expectations. So far I think it is doing a good job.

The N96 was big and bulky. Not only that, it had to sacrifice on the battery size supported due to the amount of integration of features. Then it had to cut most important component, CPU to a smaller and lesser performing variant to help control power consumption. Lastly, it cannot compete with other flagship products due to the higher price point.
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true. agreed with davidmak.

i think nokia malaysia should do some survey around malaysia market before they could totally launched new models of phone, such as recruit some peeps to do some demo or tryout the new phone before they stick the price on it!

just my opinion though
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QUOTE(ZaRnX @ Dec 8 2008, 11:24 AM)
true. agreed with davidmak.

i think nokia malaysia should do some survey around malaysia market before they could totally launched new models of phone, such as recruit some peeps to do some demo or tryout the new phone before they stick the price on it!

just my opinion though
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Yeah, I like how LG market their phones where they gave free trials of 2 weeks to a limited number of people. They get to take it home for 2 weeks without any charge. After 2 weeks, they can simply return it or keep it by buying it.

Anyway Nokia does do demo periods but not in Malaysia. I would imagine this is something they do in their home country. Remember the Nokia stress test videos back in their lab in Finland (???). I would imagine they have a bunch of people signing up to do home ground testing.
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QUOTE(hanieyf @ Dec 7 2008, 07:30 PM)
yes...n96 is a failure in N-series.. hope n97 doesnt follow his big brother
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Totally agree with you on that! .. with the many articles and review and problems of the N96 i must admit consumer should totally skip the N96.. for me N85 is the best buy of the year..with the OLED display and Single Processor same as its n78 , n79 brothers the N85 is a gem.. Just wish price goes down quick..I always have a soft spot for a slider phone like N85.. the fast response on the single core arm11 is very impressive,.. since using my n78..have no complaints at all.. its very responsive then my old n95 8gb..


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N85 really that good ar? gonna surf the N85 thread soon

p.s Out of topic already maa tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Balok @ Dec 9 2008, 09:20 AM)
N85 really that good ar? gonna surf the N85 thread soon

p.s Out of topic already maa tongue.gif
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Its like an updated N95 and it was a real good buy back then. I also interested in N85 since 5800 and N97 is taking their time to launch. Once thing I don't like about the N85 is the screen. Since it is using OLED, the brightness is limited. Because of this, the whites a bit yellowish to redish making the color temperature very warm.

Apart from this, it has all the features of N95/8GB and in a slimmer profile.
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QUOTE(Balok @ Dec 9 2008, 09:20 AM)
N85 really that good ar? gonna surf the N85 thread soon

p.s Out of topic already maa tongue.gif
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Dec 9 2008, 01:18 PM)
Its like an updated N95 and it was a real good buy back then. I also interested in N85 since 5800 and N97 is taking their time to launch. Once thing I don't like about the N85 is the screen. Since it is using OLED, the brightness is limited. Because of this, the whites a bit yellowish to redish making the color temperature very warm.

Apart from this, it has all the features of N95/8GB and in a slimmer profile.
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this model sure rm3k++...
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today's Intech says rm2500 but .....
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now i'm in dilemma...1st of all i want to change my htc tp to hd..now N97 drool.gif
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 9 2008, 03:12 PM)
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http://star-techcentral.com/tech/story.asp...8010&sec=prodit

It just stated that N97 will cost about 550 euros (RM2,500), but never stated the price when launch in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(Balok @ Dec 9 2008, 09:20 AM)
N85 really that good ar? gonna surf the N85 thread soon

p.s Out of topic already maa tongue.gif
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So good??? if i have money now for sure buy lah.. .. i wud just buy it for the OLED display.. they should switch N85 model name to N96 vice versa..then it fits the name and performance.. N96 is a failure lah.
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N96 a failure? lawl.
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laugh.gif if 2.5k a lot people already buy couple N97 already laugh.gif

Nokia will surely win against HTC, Sony, Samsung and others tongue.gif
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rm2.5k ? then N96 becomes what ? garbage ? lolz...
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Dec 9 2008, 10:26 PM)
rm2.5k ? then N96 becomes what  ? garbage ? lolz...
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n96 - garbage - lol ..true true true.. go n97!
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any idea on what CPU will the N97 be using ?
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n97 - arm11 single processor but higher clock speed..but rumours has it it might be the new OMAP3 with an Cortex-ARM8 processor..who knows depends on cost and marketing i guess.. ig the new Symbian 5 works fast enough on the new N97 with an ols ARM11 processor then why not.. blush.gif




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n97 white look delicous... drool.gif

but 2.5k?? sweat.gif price sure up when launch in msia

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malaysia too many rich ppl, sure will jack up the price lor, i'm sure ppl still buy one whistling.gif
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tell u the truth..Nokia will never launch it for 2.5k especially N Series version....if true...then Nokia will have Avaxx and Zitron to buy at 2,000 pcs for the prelaunch here....hehehehe
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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 10 2008, 12:47 PM)
tell u the truth..Nokia will never launch it for 2.5k especially N Series version....if true...then Nokia will have Avaxx and Zitron to buy at 2,000 pcs for the prelaunch here....hehehehe
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this truth is nothing but speculated truth? hehehehe... i doubt that price.. really... that is not typical nokia. but if that price really confirm..
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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 10 2008, 12:47 PM)
tell u the truth..Nokia will never launch it for 2.5k especially N Series version....if true...then Nokia will have Avaxx and Zitron to buy at 2,000 pcs for the prelaunch here....hehehehe
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the Nokia N96 first launch by Nokia already RM3K, only after 1 to 2 month price drop.
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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 10 2008, 12:47 PM)
tell u the truth..Nokia will never launch it for 2.5k especially N Series version....if true...then Nokia will have Avaxx and Zitron to buy at 2,000 pcs for the prelaunch here....hehehehe
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Exactly, so all we have to do is jsut patiently wait while saving money to wait for the price to fall. Maybe end of 09 can get below 1.9k
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Yes..N96 I brought it for 3050 and when Nokia is selling for 3299...still having it as 3rd phone. Now using N95 8GB and X1...
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Exactly, so all we have to do is jsut patiently wait while saving money to wait for the price to fall. Maybe end of 09 can get below 1.9k
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erm... I used to think the same for N95, when it just launched it was more than rm2k even for APset, then now sell at RM1.2k which I can afford now, but I no longer has interest on it anymore, its bulky size, sucky GPS and battery life issue turns me off. But nonethelss N95 means a new milestone for Nokia for built-in GPS, Wifi and 5 MP, but shortly after its siblings have come out with similar features at cheaper price.

N97 could be another milestone of Nokia in the future, or perhaps 5800 could be used to benchmark the potential and performance of the touch based S60, hopefully any flaws discovered in 5800 could be used to improve the N97.
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didn't know there's a thread for N97 and its like 250+ posts di.

actually, now enjoying my E71, but N97 completely sets my resolution for 2010 di. Hehe, I'm giving myself a whole 1 year to save up for this phone and I will buy it even if its 3k.

And 1 more thing, X1 can go die, N97 rules man.

Just a catch though, there shud be a new E series spotting a qwerty and touch screen too. If N series has it, they shud be announcing one for E-series too and that could be the phone i wanted too....
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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 11 2008, 02:00 PM)
Yes..N96 I brought it for 3050 and when Nokia is selling for 3299...still having it as 3rd phone. Now using N95 8GB  and X1...
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n96 as 3rd phone....malaysia still full with rich ppl la....who said eco bad???!!!

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Added on December 11, 2008, 5:33 pm

n96 as 3rd phone....malaysia still full with rich ppl la....who said eco bad???!!!
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oso too fast d..some more all is high end phone, with premium price...tat keekee oso another 1....salute!!!
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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 11 2008, 02:00 PM)
Yes..N96 I brought it for 3050 and when Nokia is selling for 3299...still having it as 3rd phone. Now using N95 8GB  and X1...
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Hey, we're using the same combo, X1 and N95 8GB, just that my 3rd phone is a BlackBerry BOLD. smile.gif

Anyway, the N97 really blew my mind when I saw it announced! Q1 2009 eh, hope it's on time!
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it will available in the market Q1 2009, but how about m'sia market, always delay compare with other country... sad.gif
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I thought it's be available first half of 2009, why u guys keep saying Q1 2009?
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QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Dec 11 2008, 06:43 PM)
I thought it's be available first half of 2009, why u guys keep saying Q1 2009?
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1. It runs with 192 Mb RAM & ARM13 476MHz processor.
2. It runs as the fastest Nokia symbian when u keep at least 4GB of its internal memory free and use no mem card.
3. it has a dedicated music chip and 3D graphics accilarator.
4. it's loup sp. and headphone sound quality is in line with N91 & they are still improving it.
5. it has USB charger.
6. the softwares for its & 5800's OS is still on with the developers.
7. it'll come boxed with configuaration to directly download FLV content from any webpage.


Someone posted it at gsmarena, don't know trustable or not. So u think it's good if what he said is true?
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QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Dec 11 2008, 06:49 PM)
Someone posted it at gsmarena, don't know trustable or not. So u think it's good if what he said is true?
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Hey, we're using the same combo, X1 and N95 8GB, just that my 3rd phone is a BlackBerry BOLD. smile.gif

Anyway, the N97 really blew my mind when I saw it announced! Q1 2009 eh, hope it's on time!
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i wonder why he needs so many top phone.. if telling me using all at once, i would be speechless..
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hehe.... let's go rob sonyclie and aruja..... brows.gif
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Don't rob me lah..gua just a normal..working hard to get gadget...want to rob..politician lah..is better..hehehehe rclxms.gif
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if you're selling of those gadgets, i would be in your list of potential buyer. biggrin.gif
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Don't rob me lah..gua just a normal..working hard to get gadget...want to rob..politician lah..is better..hehehehe rclxms.gif
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joking la bro, but really, if i have those 3 phones, i'd be in heaven d.....
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Sure..why not??? Keep u informed then....
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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 11 2008, 11:08 PM)
Sure..why not??? Keep u informed then....
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Hopefully the price is fine with me that time lor..heard next year will a bad year for everyone.....
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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 11 2008, 11:41 PM)
Hopefully the price is fine with me that time lor..heard next year will a bad year for everyone.....
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I am sleeping in wood bed..always touching it..hehehehe
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no wonder so fatt la... can avoid all the bad luck ka? lol
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QUOTE(mrhenree @ Dec 11 2008, 10:09 PM)
i wonder why he needs so many top phone.. if telling me using all at once, i would be speechless..
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Seriously, I'm using all 3 lines at once. tongue.gif

But of course, the choice of phones is up to individuals.

And don't rob me, I too like aruja work hard to buy gadgets. tongue.gif
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u work hard only, if me, i really work my @ss off lo.. jual buntut, tao? lol
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i work hard also kenot afford so many phones man.....
are u guys like wat? making 10k a month?

next year will be a bad year, in my opinion that is very true for MNCs, as they are the worst hit at the moment, but local companies who do not venture overseas are slightly affected only, so if you're attached to a local company, shouldn't be worrying too much. Also, do not stop spending, spend normally but also thriftily. The market will collapse altogether when money doesn't move and trade is halted. Even if u have money in bank also, keep all there, bank collapse & in the end u get nothing also.
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i work hard also kenot afford so many phones man.....
are u guys like wat? making 10k a month?

next year will be a bad year, in my opinion that is very true for MNCs, as they are the worst hit at the moment, but local companies who do not venture overseas are slightly affected only, so if you're attached to a local company, shouldn't be worrying too much. Also, do not stop spending, spend normally but also thriftily. The market will collapse altogether when money doesn't move and trade is halted. Even if u have money in bank also, keep all there, bank collapse & in the end u get nothing also.
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Yeah that's the thing now. Spend less, save more, and most importantly, spend wisely.

So if the launching price of the N97 is a tad too high, I guess many would put on hold their purchase in view of the impending economic situation for 2009. Sigh. unsure.gif
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tat de thing, economic so bad d, still got so many ppl can afford to buy such expensive phone like X1, n97, TP, HD, which all is above 3k....at least a few guys fr here i knw, like sony, aruja, kekeke, seagedge...i wonder u all is making more than 10k per month???teach me a bit la...
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QUOTE(limyusiong @ Dec 12 2008, 11:34 AM)
tat de thing, economic so bad d, still got so many ppl can afford to buy such expensive phone like X1, n97, TP, HD, which all is above 3k....at least a few guys fr here i knw, like sony, aruja, kekeke, seagedge...i wonder u all is making more than 10k per month???teach me a bit la...
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during the economy crisis, this is when conman take advantage of people's greed. do take care of your finance and spend wisely, there is no free lunch in this world, u want a N97, u work hard for it. don let those conman jerks have a chance.

as for me, N97 will be my phone in 2010 la, give it 1 year for price to go near 2k first and also the whole 2009 to save up for it. besides i just got my E71 2 months back and this will at least last me 2 years.
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in 2010 Nokia will release N98 whistling.gif
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Yes...we all make money from working hard...it is not that easy but sometimes we need gadget to make our life a bit simpler...hehehe.. I am have been crazy since my first expensive phone Nokia 7650...after that gila kaw kaw..my gf always fight with me when I get a new hp for myself.
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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 12 2008, 02:04 PM)
Yes...we all make money from working hard...it is not that easy but sometimes we need gadget to make our life a bit simpler...hehehe.. I am have been crazy since my first expensive phone Nokia 7650...after that gila kaw kaw..my gf always fight with me when I get a new hp for myself.
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yes, we must use wisely for our hard -earned money thumbup.gif
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ya, i believe there will be N98 in 2010 but I spend thriftily and I think a N97 is more than enough di. It has nearly got everything di so unless N98 has some new technology breakthrough, for now my aim is only N97.
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I will buy dis baby when it comes to Malaysia rclxms.gif When it will be available in Malaysia??
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I will buy dis baby when it comes to Malaysia  rclxms.gif When it will be available in Malaysia??
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trust me Malaysia always the last place to get N97 and that is why we pay more? Hehehe.
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even if there is wimax in a N98, still no use la, malaysia dunno when only wimax coverage nationwide. so not really any break through la.
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QUOTE(jameslee_84 @ Dec 12 2008, 10:41 PM)
even if there is wimax in a N98, still no use la, malaysia dunno when only wimax coverage nationwide. so not really any break through la.
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haha ure rite... but we're making progress rite? Just like 3G la, wait for a while then get better coverage... smile.gif
anyway, out of topic. I just wish there is a black N97... white looks so easy to stain.
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hehe, don worry, the white i can see is like the E90 type keyboard, not so rubbery type so won't stain dirt compare to E71, also its touchscreen so there's no numeric keypad to be dirty in the first place. and lastly, its white metal i think, so stain fingerprint yes, but definitely not dirt.
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QUOTE(nubnub75 @ Dec 12 2008, 10:50 PM)
haha ure rite... but we're making progress rite? Just like 3G la, wait for a while then get better coverage... smile.gif
anyway, out of topic. I just wish there is a black N97... white looks so easy to stain.
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my friend, no worry, i can tell u that next year, u will see a few new company with new wireless solution in town, when that happen, we should expect some better changes.. biggrin.gif
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q2 2009 international launch, so perhaps malaysia 1-2months after that
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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 12 2008, 02:04 PM)
Yes...we all make money from working hard...it is not that easy but sometimes we need gadget to make our life a bit simpler...hehehe.. I am have been crazy since my first expensive phone Nokia 7650...after that gila kaw kaw..my gf always fight with me when I get a new hp for myself.
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Haha... the ancient Nokia 7650, I still have it in my drawer! I remember buying it for RM 2,499 a few years back!

QUOTE(Badboy @ Dec 13 2008, 10:38 AM)
is it around june 2009? biggrin.gif
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Approximately, could be earlier though. Let's see how things work out.

But Nokia has been known to launch their products on time, not like SE whose products always get delayed into the market.
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QUOTE(sonyclie77 @ Dec 13 2008, 10:48 AM)
Haha... the ancient Nokia 7650, I still have it in my drawer! I remember buying it for RM 2,499 a few years back!
Approximately, could be earlier though. Let's see how things work out.

But Nokia has been known to launch their products on time, not like SE whose products always get delayed into the market.
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but the sad part of nokia is, they launch product on time, but the firmware not on time wan la, like N95 case, about 1 year later only got screen rotate firmware.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(mrhenree @ Dec 13 2008, 01:48 AM)
my friend, no worry, i can tell u that next year, u will see a few new company with new wireless solution in town, when that happen, we should expect some better changes..  biggrin.gif
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well, the day we have wimax nationwide thats the day when even N98 also becomes antique way before it is even announced or released.
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hey, isn't that KL already a Wimax area
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i remember only certain area is wimax only. else where none yet.
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QUOTE(mrhenree @ Dec 13 2008, 01:18 PM)
like N95 case, about 1 year later only got screen rotate firmware..  doh.gif
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i can see why they don't release the rotate firmware, because you can manually rotate the screen by sliding the slider opposite direction, while phones like N82 (first phone with rotation firmware) cannot do that so it needs the auto rotate function. moreover, it's advisable to keep it off to save a lot of battery.
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Dec 7 2008, 11:53 PM)
Yeah so the most important thing N97 must achieve is good battery life. The 5800 will show how good is the S60 touch interface. Nokia can learn from that and improvise for N97. The 5800 is expendable and Nokia loose nothing. The N-series brand value however is important. So Nokia better get the battery performance up to expectations. So far I think it is doing a good job.

The N96 was big and bulky. Not only that, it had to sacrifice on the battery size supported due to the amount of integration of features. Then it had to cut most important component, CPU to a smaller and lesser performing variant to help control power consumption. Lastly, it cannot compete with other flagship products due to the higher price point.
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GLBenchmark : N96 vs Iphone vs N78 vs N958GB

http://tinyurl.com/6rswzx

JBenchmark: N96 vs 6220C vs N78 vs N958GB

http://tinyurl.com/59cn2s

Apaualing to see even the N78 outperforms N96 in both J and GL benchmark rclxub.gif

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i can see why they don't release the rotate firmware, because you can manually rotate the screen by sliding the slider opposite direction, while phones like N82 (first phone with rotation firmware) cannot do that so it needs the auto rotate function. moreover, it's advisable to keep it off to save a lot of battery.
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make sense also.. but people just like something cool like auto rotate... biggrin.gif
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make sense also.. but people just like something cool like auto rotate...  biggrin.gif
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yeah..i also off auto rotate in my n82..no need to show off la people.. lol
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QUOTE(hanieyf @ Dec 14 2008, 11:29 AM)
yeah..i also off auto rotate in my n82..no need to show off la people.. lol
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N97 support N-gage?

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ya, lately i see this function as basic of new mobile phone ady.. quite common..  whistling.gif
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This China phone always come out very fast ah..maybe coming soon N100..hehehe
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yaa...china phone also got eh?  laugh.gif
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Of course..lah...i remember that China launch N96 before it launch here...hehehehe if i not mistaken...
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Dec 14 2008, 02:06 PM)
should be included in the future, but even now not every Nseries has Ngage support yet.
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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 15 2008, 10:52 AM)
Of course..lah...i remember that China launch N96 before it launch here...hehehehe if i not mistaken...
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Agreed, its not like you can't enjoy 3D games without Ngage. Why Ngage when you have to pay for games? Hehehehe....  tongue.gif
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actually Ngage didn't even utilize the 3d accelerator in N95 or N82. I heard Ngage game can ahem ahem wan hmm.gif

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i think it would be quite absurd to use touchscreen to play fifa, even the response of the touchscreen will not be smooth and quick enough to play it bro. But the layout of the qwerty in a way resembles a gamepad since the D-pad is placed isolated to the left, so it could work as a scroll control on a conventional gamepad.
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hmm, dunno this n97 can sense how many touches at the same time..
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there's no saying that N97 will be using multitouch capacitive touch screen
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there's no saying that N97 will be using multitouch capacitive touch screen
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looking at this factor, iPhone is still dominating..  blush.gif
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looking at this factor, iPhone is still dominating..  blush.gif
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thats y a lot of ppl still fall in love with iphone even spec is not big change since launched till date...
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is spending 3k on a phone a need nowadays? as a student-going-worker of me, it would cost me 1-2 months of paycheque..
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i remember last time when colour phone just become popular, spending RM1k is already consider high price tag, and those who spend RM3k on communicator considered siao siao.

now? many kids now leh not RM3k don't want. sweat.gif
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wow, everyone should head to the site mentioned above man! Very very comprehensive!
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OMGOMGOMG~!!! wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif
So very delicious~! Okay, now i'm totally poisoned (borrow from J-Phone thread tongue.gif ).
Screw iPod Touch, i'm getting this next year~~!!! (hopefully la biggrin.gif )
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OMGOMGOMG~!!!  wub.gif  wub.gif  wub.gif
So very delicious~! Okay, now i'm totally poisoned (borrow from J-Phone thread  tongue.gif ).
Screw iPod Touch, i'm getting this next year~~!!! (hopefully la  biggrin.gif )
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So N97 will launch in May? I think it's kinda late.
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QUOTE(nubnub75 @ Dec 16 2008, 01:38 AM)
OMGOMGOMG~!!!  wub.gif  wub.gif  wub.gif
So very delicious~! Okay, now i'm totally poisoned (borrow from J-Phone thread  tongue.gif ).
Screw iPod Touch, i'm getting this next year~~!!! (hopefully la  biggrin.gif )
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just kidding biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Dec 16 2008, 07:33 AM)
So N97 will launch in May? I think it's kinda late.
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where got late, nokia has to wait till 5800 has garnered enough sales then only will release N97. Also this is the early attempt in touch-based interface, therefore the earlier the N97, the more buggy and unstable it will turn out to be
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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 15 2008, 10:52 AM)
Of course..lah...i remember that China launch N96 before it launch here...hehehehe if i not mistaken...
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Yeah, I remember holding and playing with it at a store in China some time before it was actually available in MY. But of course, the build quality and UI is way behind the actual unit. But it was pretty cheap even before bargaining. biggrin.gif

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is spending 3k on a phone a need nowadays? as a student-going-worker of me, it would cost me 1-2 months of paycheque..
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QUOTE(mrhenree @ Dec 15 2008, 07:50 PM)
looking at this factor, iPhone is still dominating..  blush.gif
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Dec 16 2008, 10:00 AM)
where got late, nokia has to wait till 5800 has garnered enough sales then only will release N97. Also this is the early attempt in touch-based interface, therefore the earlier the N97, the more buggy and unstable it will turn out to be
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there are some1 start selling 5800 in our forum, la, unsure reliable or not.. blink.gif
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Those sellin are overseas set which is released earlier than in M'sia i think. The retail set in Malaysia i think only certain distributor has it, not every shop selling yet. Personal opinion is that, 5800 will not do very well la. I think only when N97 is released only Nokia will blow the world away.
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QUOTE(jameslee_84 @ Dec 16 2008, 11:41 AM)
Those sellin are overseas set which is released earlier than in M'sia i think. The retail set in Malaysia i think only certain distributor has it, not every shop selling yet. Personal opinion is that, 5800 will not do very well la. I think only when N97 is released only Nokia will blow the world away.
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QUOTE(jameslee_84 @ Dec 16 2008, 11:41 AM)
Those sellin are overseas set which is released earlier than in M'sia i think. The retail set in Malaysia i think only certain distributor has it, not every shop selling yet. Personal opinion is that, 5800 will not do very well la. I think only when N97 is released only Nokia will blow the world away.
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Same as me. I always view 5800 as a prototype for Nokia to test their touchscreen technology to the mass & to gather people's reactions & feedback of it. Plus 5800 is supposed to be targetted at specific audience, where as N series is always for general audience.
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the distinction between N series, E series and 5800 is getting blur, N97 will be the first ever to come with built in QWERTY in N series, which will raise a branding confusion with E series. And the decision to put 5800 under Xpressmusic line is really rclxub.gif

As AMD slogan said the future is fusion, it seems Nokia knows this too nod.gif All of their S60 devices are fusioned together, only the price to differentiate.
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i think the only confusion that arises is with the N97. 5800 is jus in line with all those 5-coded series since 5300 associated with music devices. N series on the other hand is normally associated with high performance camera and more appealing designs for younger generations, and the E-series is for to business personnel. But like I said, incorporating a qwerty keypad on the N97 does create a bit of confusion on the N-series phone. Just as I have wild-guessed earlier, maybe an E-series with qwerty keypad much similar to the N97 will be released but with a different model no. and maybe faster processor and higher ram memory. Could be an E-91.... hehe, speculation though.....
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Dec 16 2008, 01:25 PM)
And the decision to put 5800 under Xpressmusic line is really rclxub.gif

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i just kinda dislike 4 digits series phone.. like very low end la.. lol
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QUOTE(mrhenree @ Dec 16 2008, 11:22 PM)
i just kinda dislike 4 digits series phone.. like very low end la.. lol
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Somehow I have the same thought on Nokia's current 4-digit naming of their devices. laugh.gif
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Somehow I have the same thought on Nokia's current 4-digit naming of their devices.  laugh.gif
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see, it's not just me. i believe there would be a fraction of people thought of this. it's time for nokia to change. smile.gif
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Wah lau...N100 is out by China manufacture before Nokia could launch N97 next year..2009'

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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 17 2008, 09:39 AM)
Wah lau...N100 is out by China manufacture before Nokia could launch N97 next year..2009'
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N100? Mind to show the review of it? Is it a carbon copy of N97?
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QUOTE(sonyclie77 @ Dec 17 2008, 12:19 AM)
Somehow I have the same thought on Nokia's current 4-digit naming of their devices.  laugh.gif
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What about the 8xxx series?.. heh tongue.gif. Definitely not low end in terms of price
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QUOTE(nebousuke @ Dec 17 2008, 10:48 AM)
What about the 8xxx series?.. heh tongue.gif. Definitely not low end in terms of price
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well.. no comment on that.. another rich pple phone.. lol
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four digit model number has its good benefit also, a lot of new model can utilise it instead of two digit number whistling.gif
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I played with the display model (8800) before and I think the price justify the solid feel, material and the well engineered sliding mechanism. You are paying for good physical design. Some people prefer those. Feature-wise, it wasn't such a bad phone either.

Anyway, would have more colours. I personally like white one better but I think it could pull off with more funky colours like NDS or PSP.. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 17 2008, 09:39 AM)
Wah lau...N100 is out by China manufacture before Nokia could launch N97 next year..2009'
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blasphemy to VAIO and Nokia
I always wonder why can't they think of another proper name instead of tumpang other ppl's fame ?

QUOTE(nebousuke @ Dec 17 2008, 10:48 AM)
What about the 8xxx series?.. heh tongue.gif. Definitely not low end in terms of price
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Nokia 8210, a classic whistling.gif
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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 17 2008, 09:39 AM)
Wah lau...N100 is out by China manufacture before Nokia could launch N97 next year..2009'
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name is N100, but spec is lower than n95
jus my 2 cents whistling.gif
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I heard from my staff that the hp is already in the market quite sometime....
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Dec 17 2008, 11:12 AM)
oh damn vmad.gif
blasphemy to VAIO and Nokia
I always wonder why can't they think of another proper name instead of tumpang other ppl's fame ?
Nokia 8210, a classic whistling.gif
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lol, i note that too, N100 Vaio... ahahaha.. lmao..

only 8850 GOLD appear in my dictionary. smile.gif
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Nokia Vaio... should put a Mac logo as well.

Anyway, I hope that since nokia is using arm11, the price of this thing would not be too high
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QUOTE(mrhenree @ Dec 16 2008, 11:22 PM)
i just kinda dislike 4 digits series phone.. like very low end la.. lol
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Low end phones are for people who haven't enough budget.. I still love my 7390...
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QUOTE(little_pixie @ Dec 17 2008, 01:28 PM)
Low end phones are for people who haven't enough budget.. I still love my 7390...
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im not agreed with u, some of the big bosses are using low end phone even they r driving bmw or mb
no offence... biggrin.gif
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Yup tat is so true....only young generation tat using high phone..hehehehe
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QUOTE(RME-RAnger @ Dec 17 2008, 01:49 PM)
im not agreed with u, some of the big bosses are using low end phone even they r driving bmw or mb
no offence...  biggrin.gif
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Well, its simple explanation.... They are playing with the BIG toys and we have no choice but to play with SMALL toys ma....

But on the other hand, they are only normal sapiens as compared to us all who are GENIUS....

Nokia should exceptionally change tagline for E71 from "Connecting People" to "Genius Phone for the Genius User". thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 17 2008, 04:35 PM)
Yup tat is so true....only young generation tat using high phone..hehehehe
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younger generation dominating the high-end/sophisticated/complicated phone industry... whistling.gif

QUOTE(jameslee_84 @ Dec 17 2008, 05:42 PM)
Well, its simple explanation.... They are playing with the BIG toys and we have no choice but to play with SMALL toys ma....

But on the other hand, they are only normal sapiens as compared to us all who are GENIUS....

Nokia should exceptionally change tagline for E71 from "Connecting People" to "Genius Phone for the Genius User".  thumbup.gif
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opsss?...why only E71?...what about other "wow" Nokia phones... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(unknowndevices @ Dec 17 2008, 06:22 PM)
younger generation dominating the high-end/sophisticated/complicated phone industry... whistling.gif
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not every rich ppl using cheapoo phone, some of them too many money and trendy person also buy high end phone, but majority of them only use for phone call & sms.. rclxub.gif they get tat phone just for show off (a very good example is my ex-boss wife, the max duration to hold a new high-end phone is around 2 months only sweat.gif )
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QUOTE(unknowndevices @ Dec 17 2008, 06:22 PM)
younger generation dominating the high-end/sophisticated/complicated phone industry... whistling.gif
opsss?...why only E71?...what about other "wow" Nokia phones... whistling.gif
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Cos this is a E71 phone discussion and I am a E71 user, so..... *drumroll* ..... only us, here are genius who deserve a genius phone like E71....
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QUOTE(jameslee_84 @ Dec 17 2008, 11:06 PM)
Cos this is a E71 phone discussion and I am a E71 user, so..... *drumroll* ..... only us, here are genius who deserve a genius phone like E71....
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um... unsure.gif i believe... unsure.gif this is an N97 thread? unsure.gif
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tis is madness ...32gb internal memory =.=

sure cost a bomb
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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Dec 17 2008, 11:24 PM)
tis is madness ...32gb internal memory  =.=

sure cost a bomb
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im not agreed with u, some of the big bosses are using low end phone even they r driving bmw or mb
no offence...  biggrin.gif
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considering they can hire aide and secretaries, what's the need for even a smartphone then ? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(RME-RAnger @ Dec 17 2008, 06:52 PM)
not every rich ppl using cheapoo phone, some of them too many money and trendy person also buy high end phone, but majority of them only use for phone call & sms..  rclxub.gif they get tat phone just for show off (a very good example is my ex-boss wife, the max duration to hold a new high-end phone is around 2 months only sweat.gif )
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2 months only ??? Me using Omnia less than 6 hours then sell it off to buy X1..hehehe
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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 18 2008, 10:23 AM)
2 months only ??? Me using Omnia less than 6 hours then sell it off to buy X1..hehehe
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then u consider orang kaya already whistling.gif
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Orang Kaya yang bodoh..kan?
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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 18 2008, 10:34 AM)
Orang Kaya yang bodoh..kan?
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u cannot said like tat, if u afford to pay for the phone and trandy, y not? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(nubnub75 @ Dec 17 2008, 11:18 PM)
um...  unsure.gif  i believe...  unsure.gif  this is an N97 thread?  unsure.gif
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soli soli.....

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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 18 2008, 10:34 AM)
Orang Kaya yang bodoh..kan?
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lol, 6 months still ok la. meaning u orang kaya ka? drool.gif
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must be frigging rich lo.......
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i work 2-3 jobs also not enough to spend that way man.....
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Nokia needs to make phones with VGA resolution!!!
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Nokia needs to make phones with VGA resolution!!!
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it seems u're HTC fans huh? must be excited with your current phone.  smile.gif
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I still using my n82 too but the poor qvga quality for webpages is no good compared to touch pro.

But I praise nokia 3.5mm headset brilliance.

what phone u use?
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using some budget phone at the moment. no good to tell. smile.gif
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You guys, do you prefer the slide is 45 degree or just flat...
I prefer flat... this kind of slide will look like I wanna watching TV... ngehehe...
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QUOTE(little_pixie @ Dec 19 2008, 12:43 AM)
You guys, do you prefer the slide is 45 degree or just flat...
I prefer flat... this kind of slide will look like I wanna watching TV... ngehehe...
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u mean a bit slide like xperia?
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i like xperia arc slider design, more trendy instead of flat slide.. hehe biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(RME-RAnger @ Dec 19 2008, 09:36 AM)
i like xperia arc slider design, more trendy instead of flat slide.. hehe  biggrin.gif
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I too prefer the arc slider design, though it's because of the functionality of the design, and also partly because it's "trendy".

Haha! It just feels more right with a arc slider keyboard instead of the normal ones found in the likes of Touch PRO or TyTN II.
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I thought TyTN II slider is like the nokia N97 sliding mechanism?
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QUOTE(nebousuke @ Dec 19 2008, 01:43 PM)
I thought TyTN II slider is like the nokia N97 sliding mechanism?
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QUOTE(nebousuke @ Dec 19 2008, 01:43 PM)
I thought TyTN II slider is like the nokia N97 sliding mechanism?
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TyTN II is a two action mechanism. You slide and then have the option to tilt it whatever angle you want but up to 45 Deg (approx.). With the N97, have no choice. Once you slide, it'll go up automatically.
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Dec 19 2008, 02:03 PM)
TyTN II is a two action mechanism. You slide and then have the option to tilt it whatever angle you want but up to 45 Deg (approx.). With the N97, have no choice. Once you slide, it'll go up automatically.
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wait a sec, i tot N97 sliding mechanism will tilt it like 30 degrees or something isn't it?
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Dec 19 2008, 02:03 PM)
TyTN II is a two action mechanism. You slide and then have the option to tilt it whatever angle you want but up to 45 Deg (approx.). With the N97, have no choice. Once you slide, it'll go up automatically.
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Well having the choice to tilt it up to 45 degree is much better than just limited to one angle. But the mechanism might just add up the cost of handset though.
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QUOTE(nebousuke @ Dec 19 2008, 07:12 PM)
Well having the choice to tilt it up to 45 degree is much better than just limited to one angle. But the mechanism might just add up the cost of handset though.
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Actually its not really complicated to have that tilt feature. It was probably patented though. Thats why Xperia X1 had one angle in an arc while the N97 has auto-tilt bracket. But its great to have the choice of tilting up and down. Not sure about reliability though. But I think N97 is more vulnerable. Just look at the bracket that tilts it. One drop, one of those plastic pieces might come off.
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Dec 19 2008, 09:46 PM)
Actually its not really complicated to have that tilt feature. It was probably patented though. Thats why Xperia X1 had one angle in an arc while the N97 has auto-tilt bracket. But its great to have the choice of tilting up and down. Not sure about reliability though. But I think N97 is more vulnerable. Just look at the bracket that tilts it. One drop, one of those plastic pieces might come off.
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Dec 19 2008, 09:46 PM)
Actually its not really complicated to have that tilt feature. It was probably patented though. Thats why Xperia X1 had one angle in an arc while the N97 has auto-tilt bracket. But its great to have the choice of tilting up and down. Not sure about reliability though. But I think N97 is more vulnerable. Just look at the bracket that tilts it. One drop, one of those plastic pieces might come off.
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hmmmm does zitron guarantee against damage caused by accidental drops? hmm.gif
cuz it's best to buy the original if u're gonna invest in sumthing this effin expensive... hmm.gif
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hmmmm does zitron guarantee against damage caused by accidental drops? hmm.gif
cuz it's best to buy the original if u're gonna invest in sumthing this effin expensive... hmm.gif
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just don't tell them u drop  rclxms.gif
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haha good solution! i love it. biggrin.gif
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smile.gif u plannin on gettin n97?
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The N97 back in 2006 sleep.gif



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The N97 back in 2006 sleep.gif
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but it was published in a magazine then
it could be Nokia's very first prototype then, the design have to admit is very very lame
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but it was published in a magazine then
it could be Nokia's very first prototype then, the design have to admit is very very lame
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Another thing, is it just me, or is the Nokia N97 pretty similar to the N79 in terms of the design? Especially the silver bezel around the screen... hmm.gif
I guess this is the 2008-2009 style for nseries, no?
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^dunno lol.. but recently the Nseries design has been revamped to be more elegant, eye candy, u name it...

still remember the looks of N70 and a few others 1st gen Nseries ? later the N73 got the better design, but yet still not good with the joystick, then N95 came out, which was powerful but kinda bulky and rough. N82, N81, which were launched at the same period, are having better looks than their predecessor but then, they were still thick and heavy.

Finally with the current batch, N78, N79, N85, N96, all of them are totally different than the 1st/2nd gen of Nseries, much sleeker, slim, nice and elegant. I used to say SE got the better in the design, but now Nokia has done quite some good work flex.gif
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N97 is good but could have been better

If only it came with 8 megapixel camera
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i am sure a 8megapixel means a bigger sensor, bigger sensor means bigger phone. bigger phone with qwerty means THE BIGGEST PHONE. I think it's just getting silly with all these MP race among phone makers. 5MP is good enough, heck even 3.2 MP is good enough for a compact cam.
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they should learn to use CCD sensor with optical zoom like those J-phones instead.
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QUOTE(nebousuke @ Dec 19 2008, 11:53 PM)
i am sure a 8megapixel means a bigger sensor, bigger sensor means bigger phone. bigger phone with qwerty means THE BIGGEST PHONE. I think it's just getting silly with all these MP race among phone makers. 5MP is good enough, heck even 3.2 MP is good enough for a compact cam.
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use samsung's mini sensor tongue.gif
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use samsung's mini sensor  tongue.gif
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Omnia is 8MP? Not 5MP? The bigger the sensor, the better. Anyway, there are pros and cons between CCD and CMOS. CMOS tends to be less noisy at higher ISO range. Or am i mistaken?
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Dec 19 2008, 11:57 PM)
they should learn to use CCD sensor with optical zoom like those J-phones instead.
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some guys over esato forum reported that the SE C905 outperformed 8mp CCD equipped J-phones. it even make japanese envy. jphone is jphone, they have their own greatness, but not always better than international brand phones. jphone is imho specifically made for what japanese want, while international brand will make for what the whole world will want. mind you, many japanese always carry digicam in their handbag or slingbag/carry bag, not like malaysian.

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QUOTE(nebousuke @ Dec 20 2008, 12:03 AM)
Omnia is 8MP? Not 5MP? The bigger the sensor, the better. Anyway, there are pros and cons between CCD and CMOS. CMOS tends to be less noisy at higher ISO range. Or am i mistaken?
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A bigger megapixel number should come with a bigger piece of sensor. Otherwise, noise will start to influence the picture. If DSLR 8MP would be nice. Mobile phone with camera? Nah.... they should just focus on making the module as small as possible and the MP count should accommodate that module to to maximize the quality, that would be fair enough.
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A bigger megapixel number should come with a bigger piece of sensor. Otherwise, noise will start to influence the picture. If DSLR 8MP would be nice. Mobile phone with camera? Nah.... they should just focus on making the module as small as possible and the MP count should accommodate that module to to maximize the quality, that would be fair enough.
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that's so true. Another thing to note is that do we even need that much pixels? I mean, even with my DSC-T200 (8MPix), i find it excessively large and it takes up my hard drive space pretty fast. I'm pretty happy with 5mpix.
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QUOTE(nubnub75 @ Dec 20 2008, 12:34 AM)
that's so true. Another thing to note is that do we even need that much pixels? I mean, even with my DSC-T200 (8MPix), i find it excessively large and it takes up my hard drive space pretty fast. I'm pretty happy with 5mpix.
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QUOTE(nubnub75 @ Dec 20 2008, 12:34 AM)
that's so true. Another thing to note is that do we even need that much pixels? I mean, even with my DSC-T200 (8MPix), i find it excessively large and it takes up my hard drive space pretty fast. I'm pretty happy with 5mpix.
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And high megapixel doesn't mean good quality picture, quality determined by lots of things, flash, lens and even the processor used to process the picture.
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QUOTE(nebousuke @ Dec 20 2008, 12:21 AM)
A bigger megapixel number should come with a bigger piece of sensor. Otherwise, noise will start to influence the picture. If DSLR 8MP would be nice. Mobile phone with camera? Nah.... they should just focus on making the module as small as possible and the MP count should accommodate that module to to maximize the quality, that would be fair enough.
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DSLR is great because of lens, sensor, mechanism, dedicated photo process chips with mature image processing code. you try stuck a big big sensor in a phone, but with cheap lens and paria processing, see if they look nice.

QUOTE(nubnub75 @ Dec 20 2008, 12:34 AM)
that's so true. Another thing to note is that do we even need that much pixels? I mean, even with my DSC-T200 (8MPix), i find it excessively large and it takes up my hard drive space pretty fast. I'm pretty happy with 5mpix.
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because phone cannot take as much details as digicam. so higher pixel count can give more details although 8mp phone is probably equal to a good 5mp digicam.
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camera is no issue to me le.... i'm resigned to buying N97 di. Even if they remove the cam i would still get it. My E71 cam is crappy enough, but honestly, I only snap it like 3 times to test whether it works when buying time. Other than that, never even use it.
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HAHAHA.. when you said resigned to buy. I thought you gave up buying already. Anyway, I do secretly wish for something that would able to snap indoor photo properly. Forget about the megapixel count, a proper flash might be something more hopeful in this high end gadget. I find that many times when I wished to take out my phone to snap some pictures, I gave up the intention after remembering the crappiness of it's indoor quality.

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HAHAHA.. when you said resigned to buy. I thought you gave up buying already. Anyway, I do secretly wish for something that would able to snap indoor photo properly. Forget about the megapixel count, a proper flash might be something more hopeful in this high end gadget. I find that many times when I wished to take out my phone to snap some pictures, I gave up the intention after remembering the crappiness of it's indoor quality.
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lol if only it had n82 camera with xenon flash  tongue.gif
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N97 Review

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QUOTE(jameslee_84 @ Dec 20 2008, 05:03 AM)
camera is no issue to me le.... i'm resigned to buying N97 di. Even if they remove the cam i would still get it. My E71 cam is crappy enough, but honestly, I only snap it like 3 times to test whether it works when buying time. Other than that, never even use it.
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heheh, text me when you're looking for new owner for your phone. tongue.gif
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heheh, text me when you're looking for new owner for your phone.  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jameslee_84 @ Dec 21 2008, 07:39 PM)
u mean my E71?
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yeah. E71 is a good phone.  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jameslee_84 @ Dec 21 2008, 09:33 PM)
saving for N97 now lo. if it is released in mid-2009, then i'll probably sell it in november or december to fund for it lo.
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so u mean u will sell it now? now december right? hmm.gif
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haih... so long the wait. might as well buy the Tube huh? brows.gif
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QUOTE(booooster @ Dec 21 2008, 10:48 PM)
but tube is not n-series lol
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i do think tube shouldn't be placed into the 4 digits series..  blush.gif
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without a mechanical keypad or keyboard. Tube doesn't deserve the N-series name tag. tongue.gif
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without a mechanical keypad or keyboard. Tube doesn't deserve the N-series name tag. tongue.gif
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Me too if....the price is right..hehehe
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lol we kno u want n97 damn bad  drool.gif
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rclxms.gif drool.gif blush.gif

Later cost 3k, rclxub.gif

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Me too if....the price is right..hehehe
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Like less than 2.5k....hehehehe
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Like less than 2.5k....hehehehe
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great phone comes with great price... whistling.gif
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hmmm...how come less than rm2.5k?...N97 should be par the same price as E90... brows.gif
great phone comes with great price... whistling.gif
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i think this N97 will be my next year Christmas gift for myself tongue.gif by that time i think price will stable liao la
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i think this N97 will be my next year Christmas gift for myself tongue.gif by that time i think price will stable liao la
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waaaa so long! more than 1 year~!!! gud future planning eh? brows.gif
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waaaa so long! more than 1 year~!!! gud future planning eh? brows.gif
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waaaa so long! more than 1 year~!!! gud future planning eh? brows.gif
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lol. but is the quality guaranteed? haha
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i think this N97 will be my next year Christmas gift for myself tongue.gif by that time i think price will stable liao la
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QUOTE(jameslee_84 @ Dec 22 2008, 11:32 PM)
same here, plan 1 yr ahead also.
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Me too...next year Christmas gift...hehehehe
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looks awesome..if the price is good, i'll dump my E71 for this one end of next year too..
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Huhu, this Nokia N97 have Handwriting recognition...
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anybody know where to find comparison table between n95 and n97? afaik n97 dont have infrared.

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anybody know where to find comparison table between n95 and n97? afaik n97 dont have infrared.
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anybody know where to find comparison table between n95 and n97? afaik n97 dont have infrared.
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infrared for handphone are now slowly faded away.... so not affect on this whistling.gif
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why does it sounds more and more people making this phone as the end-of-next-year-gift?... whistling.gif
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yes...Santa is trying packing for the all the user..so now his helper is making the fone now to meet the world demand for next year....
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why does it sounds more and more people making this phone as the end-of-next-year-gift?... whistling.gif
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y infrared so important? u can bt or wifi it right?
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availablity more secured and confirmed.. whistling.gif
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yes...Santa is trying packing for the all the user..so now his helper is making the fone now to meet the world demand for next year....
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erksss?...can Santa meet the demands of the users?...then,it would be lucky to those that can't afford to buy it...probably Santa giving discount to those can't afford... whistling.gif

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all become wise buyer, wait for the right price!!!
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Infrared really kuno-technology di man.... still remember i use to play snakes with my fren's phone using infrared.

hai..... christmas always a bad time, buy new phone, buy new clothes, go holiday, and me & my gf anniversary somemore...... sad.gif
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QUOTE(jameslee_84 @ Dec 24 2008, 12:53 AM)
Infrared really kuno-technology di man.... still remember i use to play snakes with my fren's phone using infrared.

hai..... christmas always a bad time, buy new phone, buy new clothes, go holiday, and me & my gf anniversary somemore...... sad.gif
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then it is good time for u, anniversary and x'mas gift together... save money brows.gif
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oh yes yes very kuno wan.. ahahaha.. tq for da link booooster... im using infra red for remote control my tv in my bedroom. very lazy wan to bangun2, sometimes pakai kaki to switch chanel.

ok another wan. what is the most u like about this coming n97. for me its touch screen, NSeries and its look stylo milo..

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QUOTE(saiya @ Dec 24 2008, 06:09 PM)
oh yes yes very kuno wan.. ahahaha.. tq for da link booooster... im using infra red for remote control my tv in my bedroom. very lazy wan to bangun2, sometimes pakai kaki to switch chanel.

ok another wan. what is the most u like about this coming n97. for me its touch screen, NSeries and its look stylo milo..
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prob the large touch screen lol
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heheh, at the meantime, 5800 shall be a good one to reduce the hungriness for this phone..
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Ya ya...5800 is coming soon near you.....
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Good to know this...

Review from engadget video, http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/02/nokia-u...ship-n97-phone/

Handy review from engadget, http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/04/nokia-n...-the-reckoning/

From Nokia, datasheet http://www.nokia.com/NOKIA_COM_1/Press/Mat...t_Nokia_N97.pdf
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damn! this phone is as freaking seducing as it can gets.
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then it is good time for u, anniversary and x'mas gift together... save money  brows.gif
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how to save money?!?! I'm getting N97 for myself, and need to get some designer bags for her (as usual) so how to save la bro.... not forgetting dinner yet.... which is tomorrow nite..... die lo....

We guys normally know wat to get for girls, but honestly, I think girls have no idea wat we guys actually want..... past 2 anniversary I got a Esprit jacket and a Topman wallet..... not to say i'm not happy but definitely not the top of my wishlist, this yr dunno wat I will get from her.....

out of topic anyway, anybody know wat other fine-dining restaurant good in PG ar? Wanna bring her somewhere special tomorrow nite....
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another thing, do you guys know abt the processor. n95 hav - Dual ARM 11 332 MHz CPU - 3D Graphics HW Accelerator.. is n97 hav the same or better?
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another thing, do you guys know abt the processor. n95 hav - Dual ARM 11 332 MHz CPU - 3D Graphics HW Accelerator.. is n97 hav the same or better?
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erm. should be around may or june.  rclxm9.gif
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hope it comes with a ap version..lol..no money buy ori
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Attached Image For a smaill unit(portable mini speaker) these things actually go really well. The design is pretty sleek and the sound (for a golf ball) is surprisingly big. Distorts at full volume (what speakers don’t?) but is more than enough for a portable sound.it is can use for the ipod,mobile phone,mp3/4 and so on

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lol. Nokia always comes with AP sets. so shouldn't be a problem for you^^.
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how much you think is the price difference between ap and ori for the n97 ? blink.gif
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QUOTE(saiya @ Dec 25 2008, 11:15 PM)
another thing, do you guys know abt the processor. n95 hav - Dual ARM 11 332 MHz CPU - 3D Graphics HW Accelerator.. is n97 hav the same or better?
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I've read that it's using a single ARM11 with slightly boosted processor speed about 400 ++
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how much you think is the price difference between ap and ori for the n97 ?  blink.gif
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QUOTE(nebousuke @ Dec 26 2008, 04:21 PM)
I've read that it's using a single ARM11 with slightly boosted processor speed about 400 ++
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Yeah I have heard about it too. It will be a single core ARM11 with higher processing speed and more than the standard 128MB of RAM.
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normally not that much lor... unless the ori one damn expensive
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but ap n96 is selling at 1999 compare to the ori 2999

lol, hope n97 is the same too tongue.gif

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i think n96 has begun to fail, thats why the price drop so much, as for n97, its diff story oledi
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i think n96 has begun to fail, thats why the price drop so much, as for  n97, its diff story oledi
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The original N95's battery performance was mediocre and it did not have enough RAM. With the introduction of N95 8GB, Nokia got it right then with the best of all features (except price) and good battery performance. Then now, it slap itself again by going backwards with the N96. Anyway N96 is popular in other regions like Europe where DVB is widespread. It is just now doing any good in South East Asia.
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Assuming the launching price for N97 won't be cheap(around RM3K), how long do u think the high price of N97 can hold? I'm aiming at this phone but it's still a long way to wait and expensive too, if the price won't drop too quick might consider to get.
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But that kind of phone Nokia will always launched above 3k and above. Maybe retail price will be 3399 like N96.
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But that kind of phone Nokia will always launched above 3k and above. Maybe retail price will be 3399 like N96.
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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 26 2008, 10:04 PM)
But that kind of phone Nokia will always launched above 3k and above. Maybe retail price will be 3399 like N96.
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I thought the official retail price of N97 is 550 Euro, which's about RM2500, I don't understand why the price can mark up so much. Maybe AP set can get much cheaper, RM3399 is too much for a phone, I rather use that money to get laptop instead.
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QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Dec 26 2008, 10:09 PM)
I thought the official retail price of N97 is 550 Euro, which's about RM2500, I don't understand why the price can mark up so much. Maybe AP set can get much cheaper, RM3399 is too much for a phone, I rather use that money to get laptop instead.
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I believe the optimum pricing would be RM2899 during introductory stage and then slowly settle down at RM2499. Don't think it is worth RM3399 which is overpriced. This price range can only be held by a PDA phone which S60 devices aren't even though they are touch capable. So we need to thank HTC for spoiling the market. Hehehe!
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Dec 26 2008, 10:24 PM)
I believe the optimum pricing would be RM2899 during introductory stage and then slowly settle down at RM2499. Don't think it is worth RM3399 which is overpriced. This price range can only be held by a PDA phone which S60 devices aren't even though they are touch capable. So we need to thank HTC for spoiling the market. Hehehe!
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lol funny bro HTC are winmo devices damn cool to use u kno

I own a symbian I find its too simple can't do stuff like remote desktop connection
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QUOTE(davidmak @ Dec 26 2008, 10:24 PM)
I believe the optimum pricing would be RM2899 during introductory stage and then slowly settle down at RM2499. Don't think it is worth RM3399 which is overpriced. This price range can only be held by a PDA phone which S60 devices aren't even though they are touch capable. So we need to thank HTC for spoiling the market. Hehehe!
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For RM3399 I don't think it can stay long when N97 is launched, it might last few days. Good example is 5800, last 2 weeks ago(if I'm not mistaken) I went to Sungai Wang and look for the price of this phone, and got one shop in front of the SW's entrance got the phone at that day, they offered RM2k. And compare with the price now, RM1.5 can get already. To settle down to RM2499 how long will it take? Wait until Xmas next year? whistling.gif
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Usually Nokia high end price will drop quite fast....like N96
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QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Dec 26 2008, 10:09 PM)
I thought the official retail price of N97 is 550 Euro, which's about RM2500, I don't understand why the price can mark up so much. Maybe AP set can get much cheaper, RM3399 is too much for a phone, I rather use that money to get laptop instead.
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normally, ppl in EU can get it with a new line so they don just buy the phone unlike here. So, if they sell it high price there, y would people get it from them if u can get it so much cheaper if u jus extend your phone line contract for another 2 years rite? I have a fren in Aussie who change phone every 1 yr, crazy cos he's got 2 line( the max amount ) and its registered at a gap of 1 yr apart, so every year renew got new phone, darn, he just sold a new Iphone 3G 16Gb to another fren of mine cos he's using it di.

In Malaysia, its different, we don have such deal, so at the end of the day we have no choice but to get it at that price. Thats where AP set comes in to help those who don want to pay so much. And in my opinion, retail price shud be RM3599-3799, since its as high end as Nokia E90 altho it is not a communicator. And I do hope this time around, their ram load limit is good as my E71 can't really take it when I din clear my cache and history.


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QUOTE(booooster @ Dec 26 2008, 10:27 PM)
lol funny bro HTC are winmo devices damn cool to use u kno

I own a symbian I find its too simple can't do stuff like remote desktop connection
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QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Dec 26 2008, 10:37 PM)
For RM3399 I don't think it can stay long when N97 is launched, it might last few days. Good example is 5800, last 2 weeks ago(if I'm not mistaken) I went to Sungai Wang and look for the price of this phone, and got one shop in front of the SW's entrance got the phone at that day, they offered RM2k. And compare with the price now, RM1.5 can get already. To settle down to RM2499 how long will it take? Wait until Xmas next year? whistling.gif
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if its available in M'sia in mid-2009, then Christmas will be the rite time to get it. give it 5-6 months and I'm sure price will drop 10%-20% depending on the market here. Just like E71, tho powerful but it drops about 20% in less than 5 months.

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how much you think is the price difference between ap and ori for the n97 ?  blink.gif
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should be at least rm500
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QUOTE(booooster @ Dec 26 2008, 10:27 PM)
lol funny bro HTC are winmo devices damn cool to use u kno

I own a symbian I find its too simple can't do stuff like remote desktop connection
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Which is why I said, these exorbitant price can only be held by a PDA phone (WinMo devices). You know you know?

Symbians are still smartphones, doesn't matter it has a touchscreen. It will never be a PDA phone. It may try to be one but just look at Windows Mobile platform. Anyone can easily write a program and install in it. It has all the killer applications and most important of all, it has your important PC programs. Symbians are on the other hand controlled and in someway locked.

The N97 is can be considered as a multimedia phone like its predecessors. Nothing serious.
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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 27 2008, 01:45 AM)
Teleco company here suka makan darah of consumer....bukan macam di luar negeri...
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can't agree more.... look at the price for u to get a Blackberry Bold here with Maxis. But my uncle working in US with Intel got it for free with his telco.....  vmad.gif
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But i think DIGI have this programme giving phone for FREE if you are with for so many years plus your bills must be bit high lor...
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QUOTE(aruja_69 @ Dec 29 2008, 12:57 AM)
But i think DIGI have this programme giving phone for FREE if you are with for so many years plus your bills must be bit high lor...
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But their free phones are usually entry level phones, or older models?
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But their free phones are usually entry level phones, or older models?
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haha. if Free thing = nice. There must be something behind it.. Spooky!
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no free lunch in malaysia, if there is a free phone with NO CONDITION, y not? tongue.gif
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no free lunch in malaysia, if there is a free phone with NO CONDITION, y not?  tongue.gif
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I don't think that has ever happened in M'sia before. smile.gif
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how about corporate line?
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I don't think that has ever happened in M'sia before. smile.gif
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got, i remember last time celcom free black ice whatever ice.

corporate line can get free phones too. my dad and his 'good-to-go' zitron nokia phone is one of the example.
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QUOTE(mrhenree @ Dec 30 2008, 04:17 PM)
got, i remember last time celcom free black ice whatever ice.

corporate line can get free phones too. my dad and his 'good-to-go' zitron nokia phone is one of the example.
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no contract and no condition?
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no contract and no condition?
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why this look lik tytn 2?
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anyhow, free or cheap(maybe rm100) phone with contract is available for local telco provider. biggrin.gif
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in what sense it looks like tytn ii? blink.gif

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It does look like it when it come to the sliding mechanism. But it terms of overall design, N97 looks much more hip than tytn 2

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It does look like it when it come to the sliding mechanism. But it terms of overall design, N97 looks much more hip than tytn 2
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a must own indeed!!! but with the afforable price la of course whistling.gif
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guys, get 5800 while waiting for this touch screen. biggrin.gif
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Is there any chance to get cheap price to buy in bulk? Like, me n 5 of u ordering together? heheh..
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Is there any chance to get cheap price to buy in bulk? Like, me n 5 of u ordering together? heheh..
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Possible, but not so soon also la. The RRP for Malaysian market also dunno yet. It could be lower since the economic recession is getting worse.
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i watched again all those live demo of N97, the more i watch the more i was sold. baddddd nokia, bad nokia! biggrin.gif

really hope to see this launch. should be a great hit! now i'm stucked between getting this or sacrifice many hardware features for a 8.1 camera with LED+xenon - SE C905. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(little ice @ Jan 1 2009, 09:31 PM)
i watched again all those live demo of N97, the more i watch the more i was sold. baddddd nokia, bad nokia! biggrin.gif

really hope to see this launch. should be a great hit! now i'm stucked between getting this or sacrifice many hardware features for a 8.1 camera with LED+xenon - SE C905. sweat.gif
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possible when ar? now 2009 ady. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 1 2009, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(mrhenree @ Jan 1 2009, 09:44 PM)
possible when ar? now 2009 ady. biggrin.gif
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aiyo how i know ar. biggrin.gif

by the way just found out the designer of this model is a japanese mr. Eguchi Shunjiro. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 1 2009, 10:10 PM

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i'm really looking forward to this baby.... i wonder when it will reach our shores.
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5800 touch screen launching this month ady. any relation to n97 launching?
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QUOTE(Merlin MY @ Jan 1 2009, 10:10 PM)
i'm really looking forward to this baby.... i wonder when it will reach our shores.
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on gsmarena says 2Q 2009
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post Jan 1 2009, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(booooster @ Jan 1 2009, 10:20 PM)
on gsmarena says 2Q 2009
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half year to go... 4get about this and get 5800 while starving for this la. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 1 2009, 10:27 PM

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just standby ur money to buy tis baby (projected RM3000++ is not a small amount) brows.gif
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post Jan 1 2009, 10:29 PM

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5800 is out already and lot of ppl buying, N97 where r u????
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QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Jan 1 2009, 10:29 PM)
5800 is out already and lot of ppl buying, N97 where r u????
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nokia were asking u to try out 5800 1st ma, so can earn your money again when n97 release. lol
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QUOTE(mrhenree @ Jan 1 2009, 10:54 PM)
nokia were asking u to try out 5800 1st ma, so can earn your money again when n97 release. lol
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I feel like 5800 is a À la carte and the N97 will be the main course, so must control myself not to try the À la carte. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Jan 1 2009, 11:06 PM)
I feel like 5800 is a À la carte and the N97 will be the main course, so must control myself not to try the À la carte.  whistling.gif
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um I think u mean 5800 is appetizer hmm.gif
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I think so too....
Nokia let u all try the s60 v5 1st....
C u all got wat problem...
Thn the revision will be use by this giant!!
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QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Jan 1 2009, 11:06 PM)
I feel like 5800 is a À la carte and the N97 will be the main course, so must control myself not to try the À la carte.  whistling.gif
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noooooooooooooo, nokia 5800 is a western food while N97 is a french food.

both cater for different category of ppl, you know, the buying power biggrin.gif
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tube vs N97?

how to compare, you get what you pay loh. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(HiT-AbLe @ Jan 1 2009, 11:06 PM)
I feel like 5800 is a À la carte and the N97 will be the main course, so must control myself not to try the À la carte.  whistling.gif
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i seriously want to bang myself when u link it with a la carte and main course... doh.gif
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Lol then u guys give me better example for comparing these 2 phones, apple and orange? doh.gif
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and it'll end up "woo i phone got so much more features than you cause i'm richer than you so i buy more expensive phone than you haha you noob". sweat.gif

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