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 AMD/ATI Radeon HD 4000 Series Discussion V5, The Journey Countinues..

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post Feb 6 2009, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(evilguy @ Feb 6 2009, 11:38 AM)
hi. new comer here. Use powercolor 4870. Anyone using this? Review from overclockersclub said the default core speed is 750Mhz. Mine come with default core speed at 800Mhz. Is it new bios or smthing that up the core speed?
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the non reference version is factory overclock.
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post Feb 6 2009, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Feb 6 2009, 07:46 PM)
Powercolor has several edition of 4870. I think urs is PCS+ which is among the best 4870 around.  nod.gif
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view....2684&cid=3&pg=7
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the bios is different.
from wat i seen, the 1st batch 4870 factory OC has huge problem wit the bios.
auto fan sped being too slow, crashing on benchmark........
later, powercolor release bios update for the card.
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post Feb 7 2009, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(evilguy @ Feb 6 2009, 08:43 PM)
what is the latest bios?
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not sure myself, not really a powercolor fanboy.........
QUOTE(zeustronic @ Feb 7 2009, 12:13 AM)
loled NVidia OUT! for next upcoming PS4 XBox3 & Wii2...

source
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pls........
its dat charlie guy again......... rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 7 2009, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(shaun3230 @ Feb 7 2009, 10:46 AM)
I use Win Media Player to play it. Maybe I should use a different player?
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may b u shud try different kodec also.
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post Feb 7 2009, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(shaun3230 @ Feb 7 2009, 10:47 PM)
Should I send back to the shop to check? As I bought it new. Really a downer as I can game effortlessly, but cant handle HD vids mad.gif
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its hard 2 argue it is h/w problem since gaming is perfect.
most probably is s/w related or driver clash or something.....
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post Feb 8 2009, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(kerollowyat @ Feb 8 2009, 09:13 AM)
Hi,

Anyone experience tree bug in Far Cry 2.
I got this problem after installing new 4870. Previously I used 9600GT.
I've read through various sites, seems no absolute fix.
Suggested to disable aa.
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install latest driver.

how does the bug look like?
missing tree texture?

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post Feb 10 2009, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Feb 10 2009, 06:50 AM)
I recommend Arctic Cooling Twin Turbo.
The GPU temp can be reduced by 10-15C.  nod.gif

PS: Do always opt for dual fan cooler for 4870
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i guarantee temperature improvement > 15c.

reference 4870, auto fan. 5 minutes of crysis, temp = 90 ~ 95c

twin turbo, 100% fan speed, 5 hours of crysis, temp = 45c
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post Feb 10 2009, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(chiakm @ Feb 10 2009, 02:03 PM)
Guys, my stock 4870 keeps having this weird hissing or static noise when i play games. Sometimes it gets louder or softer.
It's making me reaally worried. Any idea what's wrong?
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http://www.overclock.net/ati/402786-4870-x...oise-not-2.html

read post 13, 14, 15
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post Feb 10 2009, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(chiakm @ Feb 10 2009, 02:17 PM)
Oh. I see, Thanks! So is it harmless?
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u can pretty much says so.
actually a lot of graphic card also has dis issue. gt 200, hd 4k.
a lot of people also has dis problem, but only some of dem notice coz the sound from the graphic card is so fade dat it it cant b notice on a seal casing.
& the noise is usually cancel out by other stuff such as system fans.
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post Feb 10 2009, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(EricCYL @ Feb 10 2009, 04:41 PM)
100% fan speed, does it really loud?  hmm.gif

Cannot stand noise already  sweat.gif 6 AC Ryan 120mm fan's and HD4870 runs at 60% fan speed. Kinda annoying now  doh.gif
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IMO, i had no noise issue wit 100% fan speed.
i din't close my side panel, the only thing i can hear is the sound of my CPU heat sink fan.
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post Feb 12 2009, 11:14 PM

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izzit tested wit default fan speed or 100%?
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post Feb 15 2009, 03:43 AM

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AMD is slated to launch the Radeon HD 4890 card based on the RV790 core in April not the rumored Radeon HD 4970. The RV790XT A11 sample is running at 850Mhz core at 1.3V and 975Mhz GDDR5 memory. In comparision, a Radeon HD 4870 (RV770) card runs at 750MHz core and 900MHz GDDR5 memory. AMD told their partners that RV790 is expected to be around 20% faster than the current Radeon HD 4870 RV770 card and will compete headon against the GeForce 285 GTX card. The pricing? Between US$199 to US$249.


dat will b freaking hot, not 2 mention very power hungry.
i wonder if there will b new cooler.
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post Feb 15 2009, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(LYNsucks @ Feb 15 2009, 07:54 AM)
Like the post above, me too have a similar question.

Is gigabyte hd 4870 zalman edition good? It seems like eveyone is hot on gainward, sapphire, palit etc yet no one mention gigabyte's version.
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coz the gigabyte doesn't comes wit pre-oced & it is more expensive den the gainward/palit 1.
but other den dat, i'll hav 2 say performance quite good.

the gigabyte zalman version also doesn't use reference bios. bios is tweak wit power saving as its main priority & not overclocking.
if u extract the bios & compare wit others, the voltage is a lot lower in the setting, especially idle.
if u wanna OC it high, u hav 2 mod the bios.
QUOTE(tech_frix @ Feb 15 2009, 08:01 AM)
still waiting the 9.2...
anyone use 9.1??
hows the performance?
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9.2, no news @ all, but there is some people suggesting there will b 9.1 hotfix.

i''m using 9.1, no problem 4 me.
but i heard people having problem wit furmark benchmarking wit 3k series+9.1
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post Feb 16 2009, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Feb 16 2009, 09:20 AM)
erm...thinking of migrating to green camp...
9.1 sux..i cant even run 3dmark06...sigh
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hopefully 9.2 will bring some major performance boost.
& if it does, it will up the value of my 4870 & i'll sell it @ dat time.
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post Feb 16 2009, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Feb 16 2009, 09:54 AM)
so u oso want to go camping at green house??
it really annoys me with the driver issues wor...
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may b, or may b wait 4890 b4 making my decision.

wat happen to ATI?
dey did a ot of driver optimization last time during 3k series............
now, dey seams to only focus on multi GPU......... sad.gif
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post Feb 16 2009, 11:27 AM

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as long as there is still micro stuttering, i won't go for multi gpu.

i've been eying on gtx260 since last december.
now wit the price cut finally & wit the 55nm version,it looks more attractive den ever.
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post Feb 16 2009, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(n0v4m4r1n3 @ Feb 16 2009, 05:10 PM)
FPS, etc etc...Are you sure you don't have any driver problems? hmm.gif  Hell I don't know about others but GTA4 with 4850 lags like hell with the 9.1 CCC(medium settings with 1024*768) sweat.gif
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ur's ori?........ hmm.gif
u'll get more lag if u use pirated crack.
QUOTE(suicideroach @ Feb 16 2009, 04:32 PM)
seriously guys, what driver problem u all have been talk about?
I've been using ATi for a long time now, but i never got any problems regarding the drivers. What driver problems?
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some big titles, wen it release, it poses problem on ATI card & ati users hav 2 wait for hotfix.
2 of the big title i recall recently is far cry 2 & brothers in arms.
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post Feb 17 2009, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(jason18689 @ Feb 17 2009, 06:58 PM)
50`c temp for gc...
and its idle !
idle... rclxub.gif idle oledi 50..shyt shocking.gif
its silverstone 550W true power .... not enugh kah ?
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its normal.
even last time my reference 3870, idle 55 ~ 60, load up2 ~85 @ default fan speed.

but of coz, as usual, i did some custom cooler & OC it to the max............. rclxms.gif
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post Feb 17 2009, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(suicideroach @ Feb 17 2009, 08:51 PM)
ngong.. HD 4770 and Radeon HD 4750 is for the mainstream series la.. or the mid-end. While HD48xx is for the high end  doh.gif
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4830 is not consider high end.
QUOTE(pikacu @ Feb 17 2009, 08:53 PM)
:0 ?

RV740 is the HD47xx series, while RV790 is HD4890, as ATI top line up, HD4800 series
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gonna get either gtx260 or 4890 next.

wen CCC9.2 release, gonna sell my 4870 wen it release.
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post Feb 21 2009, 08:28 PM

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http://www.techpowerup.com/85838/RV790_Ess...cked_RV770.html

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A lot has been said about AMD's rather mysterious new performance GPU, the RV790. Clues about the new GPU surfaced as early as in November last year, when we first reported about AMD working on a successor to the RV770 before the RV870 comes to be. During the course of time, we were given several scoops about its specifications, with some reports hinting at increased stream processor and TMU counts alongside increased clock-speeds to give out early projections of as much as 20% performance increments, taking its single-GPU flagship product to the domain of the GeForce GTX 285, but as multiple sources confirm now, none of that looks plausible.

The RV790 is essentially a reworked RV770 with higher clock-speeds. AMD seems to have reworked the design of the RV770, perhaps altered or removed rudimentary components that facilitate slightly higher clock speeds. While samples of the RV790 are spec'd to run at 850 MHz, one can expect a slightly increased overclocking headroom. The samples also carried Qimonda IDGV1G-05A1F1C-40X memory chips that are originally specified to run at 1 GHz, yet running at 975 MHz on the samples. The core continues to have 800 stream processors, 40 TMUs and 16 ROPs. It features a 256-bit wide memory interface to support GDDR5, GDDR4 and GDDR3 memory standards. It will be built on the existing 55 nm TSMC manufacturing node. Products based on the RV790 can be expected only by April.


lame, if it just OC RV770 wit same number of SP & same 55nm specification, i can voltmod & OC it myself.
no thanks DAMMIT.

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