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 AMD/ATI Radeon HD 4000 Series Discussion V5, The Journey Countinues..

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post Jan 18 2009, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Jan 18 2009, 04:50 PM)
3870 not power hunger tongue.gif

anyway, rumors about RV790 .. :

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,8614.html
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3870 is more power hungry den 8800gt wen loaded.

RV790............dis is a tough call..............i still think its a rumor..............
now i only fingers cross on ATI big bang driver.......... tongue.gif
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post Jan 19 2009, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(akachester @ Jan 19 2009, 05:51 PM)
The switch for the Palit 4870 Sonic. What does that do actually? And what does it mean by Dual Bios?
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there is 2 bios in the card, both wit different default clock & different voltage setting.
the switch is use to change between 2 bioses.
its like bios OC instead of manual OC.
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post Jan 20 2009, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(akachester @ Jan 20 2009, 01:21 PM)
Do i need to shutdown first before switching or i can just switch it directly? Cause my PC is almost everyone on idle mode except during weekends where i usually game. smile.gif
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its a requirement to restart if u switch bios.
dis is y IMO, the bios switching is not a bright design.
basically u can always just run using the OC bios, den create an idle profile which is underclock.
switching between profile doesn't require restart.
the only different wit using the bios switch bios the "stock" bios uses lees power.
but dis wont mek a a different unless ur rig is a 24/7.
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post Jan 20 2009, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Jan 20 2009, 08:02 PM)
Are there any option to make an ati card to sleep mode? imean, so that it doesnt gives out a lot of wattage as im goin to use my 4870x2 to download 'stuffs' overnight.. tongue.gif
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nop.............the best u can do it use ATI tray tools to underclock beyond CCC & also lower the voltage.
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post Jan 20 2009, 09:02 PM

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another plus side of twin turbo is it dun get dirty too fast................. smile.gif
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post Jan 20 2009, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jan 20 2009, 09:04 PM)
How's ur Zalman? I tot u're still using Twin Turbo, no?
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now zalaman.
b4 dis i use twin turbo on my 4870 512, now the twin turbo is sitting idle......... tongue.gif
QUOTE(wen9x88 @ Jan 20 2009, 09:46 PM)
tech3910 can share ur temp at here?
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working superbly well.
in a non-air con condition, my 4870 idle @ ~40c, load, even after 5 straight hours of gaming, temperature max also 45c, nvr go beyond 45.............. smile.gif
temperature is taken wit my 4870 OC to 865/950.
50% fan speed on idle & 100% on load. (dun worry, its not noisy......... thumbup.gif )

yeah, my last 4870 is a 1st batch, so reference is very hot.
b4 twin turbo, idle 80+c, after 5 minutes of gaming, 95c. (auto fan speed)..............x_x
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post Jan 20 2009, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(Lacus @ Jan 20 2009, 10:47 PM)
Well, the best gpu cooler would b the Thermalright T-Rad though...twin turbo sorta thick imo...
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twin turbo only tek a little more den 2 slots........
how many slots t-rad took wit 12cm fan?
+, u'll definitely need ram sink to go wit 4870.
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post Jan 21 2009, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(Lacus @ Jan 21 2009, 12:13 AM)
well if using 12cm fan normal size, it's the same as turbo but if using 92mm and 15mm fans. only like 1 1/2 slot if not mistaken :/...ram sinks hmm, i think it does include quite a lot..if not enough, go get some then =_=
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oo, 1.5 slots?
dats thinner den stock cooler.
QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Jan 21 2009, 12:17 AM)
HR03 GTX brows.gif
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plus fan, dis will eat up all the pci slots......... sweat.gif
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post Jan 21 2009, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(B u B u @ Jan 21 2009, 11:57 PM)
brows.gif (Using Geass) BuBu de Britannia orders u,obey me! 
Tot got CPUz only.. Mana tao got GPUZ pulak.
Is mine 4850 too noob? Bought my rig 2 weeks like that ny... Played crysis warhead at max but got ABIT lag when all those effects together. Gamer mode totally smooth.
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GPU-z
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/search.php?q=gpu-z
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post Jan 22 2009, 02:04 AM

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Jan 22 2009, 12:41 AM)
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where to buy oh laugh.gif
And the cooler blows the heat outside casing or inside casing? hmm.gif
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both side.
i saw dis cooler last time @ pc fair.
i also saw i @ 1 of the shop in mines.
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post Jan 22 2009, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(B u B u @ Jan 22 2009, 11:45 AM)
And yesterday i checked with GPU-z...HOW COME THE FAN 1RPM only?!  Die lo..But i check the fan got spinning ah...and my temperature when idle around 50+ and gaming 60+
HOW LE
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dis is b coz the fan is 2 pin.
u can still use the CCC to manually afust fan speed.
but GPU-z will always show 1 rpm.

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post Jan 28 2009, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(blindbox @ Jan 27 2009, 08:03 PM)
@azarimy:Warranty won't be voided if you hook the stock cooler up again when sending it. I saw people pulling it off. People recommend AC Accelero Twin Turbo btw. It's a two slot cooler, and make sure you put ramsinks on those PWM. Why do you bother anyway? Can't you just replace that failing fan? Or is it an excuse to upgrade a bit  brows.gif ?
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yes, i'm one of'em......... tongue.gif
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post Jan 29 2009, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(Dickong @ Jan 29 2009, 12:05 PM)
Ati driver 9.1 is out, source from vr  zone, but still cant download becos it lead us to 8.12, maybe by tomorrow.
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finally, the quad optimized is here......... rclxms.gif
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post Jan 29 2009, 07:16 PM

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ATI calatyst 9.1 download
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post Jan 30 2009, 04:08 AM

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i just finish testing CCC 9.1.
wat i did is, i use the setup uninstaller to uninstall previous driver & CCC.
den restart, install new driver den restart again.

my setup is as my siggy. GPU & vram speed is default.
i just tested Fallout 3, all setting max, 8x AA, 15x AF, 1680*1050 resolution.

i took 2 situation as comparison:
1) fps during outdoor
2) fps when looking @ the opening of the hatch (when u escape 101)

for 8.12, i'm getting like ~45 outdoor & on situation 2, the frame choke to 9 fps minimum.

after i installed 9.1, i'm getting solid 60fps outdoor (coz my monitor refresh rate is set to 60), nvr drop bellow 50.
for situation 2, minimum frame only 21fps.

i'm happy with the improvement......... smile.gif

i also tested RA3.
max setting, 8x AA, 1680*1050 resolution.
what i did is i built 4 super reactor close to each other on sea wit a square formation. i purposely damage it, throw a vacuum imploder bomb on those super reactor so all of the supur reactor will explode simultaneously.
in both driver dat i tested, both occasion, the fps also choke to 3fps.......... sweat.gif

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post Jan 30 2009, 07:19 PM

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i think the performance gain vary from game to game.
i dun mind if benchmark score drop, important is gaming fps.

so far, i'm happy with the fallout 3 performance gain wit max setting........... smile.gif
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post Jan 31 2009, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(anangryorc @ Jan 31 2009, 02:41 AM)
Play POP in dx10, don play in dx9, dx9 super stutter but the GPU utilization hover ~70-80% only, dont know whats wrong, in dx10 is smooth and playable @ 1920x1080 4x AA (vista x64), give it a shot.
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i dun care bout GPU utilization, i only care about the frame rate dun suffer.
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post Jan 31 2009, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Jan 31 2009, 05:04 PM)
One simple question,

Compared ATi HD4850 vs Nvidia GT9800GTX+, which is better for FPS and racing games?

And also meant for HD movies.
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post Feb 4 2009, 10:55 PM

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if ATI still doesn't come out wit a nice driver b4 late q1, i'm gonna sell my 4870 on early q2............. mad.gif

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post Feb 6 2009, 06:56 AM

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lowering the core voltage does help save more power & @ the same time, lower idle temperature.

remember those 1st batch 4k series where it is super hot? (coz bios core voltage is set to max all the time)
i use to use ati tray tools to create an idle profile which lowers the core voltage to absolute minimum.
change to OC profile wen i wanna gaming.

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