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spunkberry
post Nov 19 2008, 09:25 PM

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textbooks are a b****
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post Nov 19 2008, 09:32 PM

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Yeah, textbooks are so darn expensive!!!! Ridiculously priced!!
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QUOTE(serena212 @ Nov 19 2008, 04:48 AM)
is it possible for a malaysia student to get into ivy league?
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Definitely smile.gif

But sometimes I don't really understand why are the ivies such a big deal sweat.gif Besides the "Ivy" name (which some Malaysians have not even heard about), the classes are almost equally as challenging as other top-tier schools' (think MIT, Stanford, Northwestern, U of Chicago which are not Ivies)
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post Nov 19 2008, 10:22 PM

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there are the New Ivies though ... 25 universities.
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post Nov 19 2008, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(HanYH @ Nov 19 2008, 10:00 PM)
Definitely  smile.gif

But sometimes I don't really understand why are the ivies such a big deal  sweat.gif  Besides the "Ivy" name (which some Malaysians have not even heard about), the classes are almost equally as challenging as other top-tier schools' (think MIT, Stanford, Northwestern, U of Chicago which are not Ivies)
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I didn't know what on earth was Ivy League(tot it was some kinda football league) until last few months when i was discussing colleges about US with my cousin. tongue.gif

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post Nov 19 2008, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(CherryD @ Nov 19 2008, 09:23 AM)
I didn't know what on earth was Ivy League(tot it was some kinda football league) until last few months when i was discussing colleges in US with my cousin.  tongue.gif
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LOL see! Personally, I think that Ive League is just an American thing smile.gif
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post Nov 19 2008, 10:42 PM

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no actually, the Ivy League is world renowned. Malaysians are just ignorant.
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post Nov 19 2008, 11:19 PM

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Practice law in UK. That's what people do. Nvr heard of Msian taking law in U.S.
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why Malaysian don't take law degree in the USA?
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post Nov 19 2008, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(zariqcools @ Nov 19 2008, 10:19 AM)
Practice law in UK. That's what people do. Nvr heard of Msian taking law in U.S.
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why Malaysian don't take law degree in the USA?
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US Law Degree requires that one has already graduated with a Bachelor's Degree (that's another 4 years), that may be one of the reasons.
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post Nov 19 2008, 11:47 PM

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Also, US law & UK law is different. M'sia is based on UK law. So why study US law. If you wanna study law, better go to Australia / UK.


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Really world renowned? Didn't know that. blink.gif tongue.gif

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post Nov 19 2008, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(P.I.M.P @ Nov 19 2008, 11:47 PM)
Also, US law & UK law is different. M'sia is based on UK law. So why study US law. If you wanna study law, better go to Australia / UK.


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Really world renowned? Didn't know that. blink.gif  tongue.gif
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what if we take law degree and become a lawyer in USA?
im asking coz law is one of the courses which included in my wish list.


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QUOTE(P.I.M.P @ Nov 19 2008, 11:47 PM)
Also, US law & UK law is different. M'sia is based on UK law. So why study US law. If you wanna study law, better go to Australia / UK.


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Really world renowned? Didn't know that. blink.gif  tongue.gif
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what if we take law degree and become a lawyer in USA?
im asking coz law is one of the courses which included in my wish list.

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Then yes, of course you can TRY to do that (but remember, getting H1B working visa will be a gamble)

Also, you gotta need a Bachelor's Degree, LSAT, Law school interviews etc.
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lol. then it means can la? even if we r not a local citizen in america.
but how do u apply for ivy league n such.

there's only 7 ivy leagues university.
top ivy league universitys are,

Brown University
Columbia University
Cornell University
Dartmouth College
Harvard University
University of Pennsylvania
Princeton University
Yale University



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QUOTE(serena212 @ Nov 19 2008, 11:25 AM)
lol. then it means can la? even if we r not a local citizen in america.
but how do u apply for ivy league n such.

there's only 7 ivy leagues university.
top ivy league universitys are,

Brown University
Columbia University
Cornell University
Dartmouth College
Harvard University
University of Pennsylvania
Princeton University
Yale University
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Apply like how you would for other schools, it's just that they may be more selective (note: MIT and Stanford are not in the list but as we know, their acceptance rate is even lower compared to some of the ivies). I assume you know that you will have to take the SAT, SAT II and TOEFL before applying.

As for what these ivies are looking for in applicants, it is very subjective.
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QUOTE(HanYH @ Nov 20 2008, 12:45 AM)
Apply like how you would for other schools, it's just that they may be more selective (note: MIT and Stanford are not in the list but as we know, their acceptance rate is even lower compared to some of the ivies). I assume you know that you will have to take the SAT, SAT II and TOEFL before applying.

As for what these ivies are looking for in applicants, it is very subjective.
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post Nov 20 2008, 01:20 AM

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ya its true. its not easy to get into ivy league schools. but my dad seem to be considering it alot.

but for ivy u must ace in ur SAT , ur personality, and probably u need alot of $$$ too.

its not easy to get in. i personally like yale the most. but no, its very hard to get in. guess, i could just dream about it then,.
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post Nov 20 2008, 02:13 AM

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Wonder how those Ivy's select candidates?
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post Nov 20 2008, 03:42 AM

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QUOTE(P.I.M.P @ Nov 19 2008, 01:23 PM)
You should compare the purchasing power in every country instead of the price of things. How much stuff you can buy with a dollar. That's what matter most.
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i AM talking about purchasing power.

buck for buck, living cost in most cities in the UK is comparable to australia. big australian cities like sydney and melbourne can be more expensive than the UK (except for london, edinburgh or birmingham).
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Aite thats cool rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

I just wanna clarify. Because 99% of the people I know always think of earning foreign currency and convert to spend in M'sia. YES, that is great to know that you're earning much more. But one have to consider the living expenses abroad. For example, they have to understand if they earn USD, they will have to spend USD. Therefore, one have to talk in terms of purchasing power.

Not like "our leaders", always compare petrol prices in S'pore & M'sia. So frustrating to listen to those comments vmad.gif mad.gif
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QUOTE(serena212 @ Nov 19 2008, 12:20 PM)
ya its true. its not easy to get into ivy league schools. but my dad seem to be considering it alot.

but for ivy u must ace in ur SAT , ur personality, and probably u need alot of $$$ too.

its not easy to get in. i personally like yale the most. but no, its very hard to get in. guess, i could just dream about it then,.
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Is it because Blair's dream school is Yale (referring to your avatar, lol)?

SAT score is not the only criterion for selection. I know of someone who only got 1200 (older format, out of 1600) who got into Cornell too. I don't think he scored high in TOEFL as well because he was required to take special writing classes when he first arrived.

But you are absolutely right that Ivy League schools' tuition fee are much higher.

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