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post Nov 3 2008, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(wonghanjiang @ Nov 3 2008, 02:54 AM)
TS are so stupid for asking this question there r no such things that where gamers in Malaysia are mostly students and young adults aging from 16-28. Their age also represents their purchasing power, having an average of RM800-RM1600 to spend monthly.

Did u make a survey first before u post ? and one more things any wrong if we purchase pirated software ? did everyone spend their money on game and don't spend on their food? U better thinks about it TS life and virtual reality are not same
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so gamers in america all aging from 30-100?all over the world the gamers are mostly 16-30 years old so its no excuse.can u design a game like call of duty 4 for free?the production cost of the game would be in millions.how on earth r they gonna get their money back if everyone thinks like u?they might as well close the gaming industry.

buying pirated games is legally wrong la just like buying pirated movies.its just that the malaysian government are not enforcing it well enough.

finally i have to say that u r really really stupid for not considering those things before replying here.
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ok so it is clear that people support piracy because it is the "right" thing to do.....

there's nothing right about it people...

piracy is a load of bull crap.

well i did buy cod4 pirated version to test it out.... but i got an ori cd key soon after.

dude the price is screwed up. i totally agree but if a game is awesome support the devs and buy the original copy.... that'd give them more funds to start on the next game
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imho it's our mentality i guess.. assume ur given given rm100 would u rather have 1 game to play or 5 or more games to play? so heh
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QUOTE(wonghanjiang @ Nov 3 2008, 02:54 AM)
TS are so stupid for asking this question there r no such things that where gamers in Malaysia are mostly students and young adults aging from 16-28. Their age also represents their purchasing power, having an average of RM800-RM1600 to spend monthly.

Did u make a survey first before u post ? and one more things any wrong if we purchase pirated software ? did everyone spend their money on game and don't spend on their food? U better thinks about it TS life and virtual reality are not same
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its like this guys say ok if someone steals his stuff. wonghanjiang pawned himself.

this thread should be in gamers hideout main forum. more ppl support original, we can have more tourneys and developers coming into malaysia n bye2 sg. since we have the bigger market.

problem is malaysians want to buy all games instead of buy the one that they really plays.

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QUOTE(crashtec @ Oct 31 2008, 03:39 AM)
Many companies such as EA (Electronic Arts) embrace piracy as free publicity while adding value added services/content for original copies of their games. They however still keep the standard cd-protection softwares on their products to avoid them being copied or cracked, though many of which are cracked anyway.
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wahahahhahahaah
then y the hell are they using securom which seems to me treating their legit customer as criminals?

here a link from sum1 from stardock. srsly long
http://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/post.aspx?postid=303512


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QUOTE(dfcloud @ Nov 3 2008, 03:26 PM)
wahahahhahahaah
then y the hell are they using securom which seems to me treating their legit customer as criminals?

here a link from sum1 from stardock. srsly long
http://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/post.aspx?postid=303512
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Hehe, no one said it works. Thats why i started this topic. Securom and such make money from all this anyway. Criminals make money for them really. Like anti-virus softwares.. what would happen if there were no viruses? They'd make their own to fuel their benefit.
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QUOTE(wonghanjiang @ Nov 3 2008, 02:54 AM)
TS are so stupid for asking this question there r no such things that where gamers in Malaysia are mostly students and young adults aging from 16-28. Their age also represents their purchasing power, having an average of RM800-RM1600 to spend monthly.

Did u make a survey first before u post ? and one more things any wrong if we purchase pirated software ? did everyone spend their money on game and don't spend on their food? U better thinks about it TS life and virtual reality are not same
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I was enjoying reading the thread till i saw this and laughed. LOLX.

It's against the law?

Overall i think now there are more gamers out there who are willing to save and fork out that money to buy ori, provided the game is gud of coz. If you look at it historically, compared to 5-10 years back, practically everone bought pirated. It was a rarity to find shops that sell ori games, and even if they do, it was relatively minimal.

From a personal experience back then when i was a student i couldn't and wouldn't spend RM150 for original games. Fact is, it is too expensive, then there and now. The only difference that i can think of now is that overall the younger generation now has better purchasing power.

Fast forward to now and if you ask me whether i would go all out to buy ori... the answer is prolly no. Why? Simply bcuz I don't have the $ to spend on a powerful rig that can support current/future games. Even if i managed to get a rig, i wld prolly be too broke to buy games. And if $ wasn't a question in the first place, then there wouldn't be a need to deliberate between ori & pirated. XD
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QUOTE(crashtec @ Nov 3 2008, 04:15 PM)
Hehe, no one said it works. Thats why i started this topic. Securom and such make money from all this anyway. Criminals make money for them really. Like anti-virus softwares.. what would happen if there were no viruses? They'd make their own to fuel their benefit.
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my point is, ea never embrace piracy shakehead.gif

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dont you think we actually grow up with pirates in Malaysia? Is becoming a culture, part of malaysian life that we only use pirate stuff. Is part of our norm to getting pirates which cause hell less than the original. Is not that we do not want to support, but how to support with our cost of living?
I am not talking about games here, but more to software and stuff. Even lot of company in malaysia curi curi using pirated software, but without this pirate software, how are we going to survive and advance like other developing country? It may sound like an excuse to most people but think about it, even in school or uni or college, we are being guide to buy pirate stuff, lecture would ask us to just photostate our books from the ori to be use in class. How to buy a Rm100++ books when we can get it around RM25-30 by just photostating which the lecture dont even mind and encouraging it?
Back to software and games, everything is the same.

Is part of us now, and with the advance of internet, there is no stopping it. Too bad, is bad but all to be blame that we started wrongly. sad.gif
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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Nov 3 2008, 05:35 PM)
Don't you think (that) we actually grew up with pirates in Malaysia? It's becoming a culture, part of malaysian lifestyle that we only use pirated stuff. It's part of our (a) norm to getting piratesed (products) which cause (cost) hell less than the original. It's not that we do not want to support (ori), but how to support with our (current) cost of living?
I am not talking about games here, but more to software and stuff. Even (a) lot of companyies in malaysia curi curi using pirated software, but without this pirated software, how are we going to survive and advance like other developing (err.... "developing" or "developed"?) country? It may sound like an excuse to most people but think about it, even in school or uni or college, we are being guided ("influence" is a more suitable word though, just my 2 cents) to buy pirated stuff, lecturer would ask us to just photostate our books from the ori to be used in class. How to (Why should you) buy a Rm100++ books when we can get it around RM25-30 by just photostating (it) which the lecturer don't even mind and encouraginge it (instead)?
Back to software and games, everything is the same.

It's part of us now, and with the advancement of (the) internet, there is no stopping it. Too bad, it's bad but all to be blame that we started wrongly (huh?). sad.gif
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wonghanjiang's reply is even funnier if the rig in his sig is real. Lots of money to buy hardware, no money to buy the games for it to run?


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post Nov 3 2008, 07:52 PM

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Here is some basic information.

The breakdown for age gaps is this.

12 below.
18 below.
25 below
35 below
above 35

Now, the highest amount of purchasers are those between the ages of 18 to 30. Reason? School leavers, working adults, mostly single and male. The MMO market survey for WoW already indicates that this is true. If that idiot who walked in and asked where the TS got his info from please inform him that if he didn't know about this piece of basic information, HE IS NOT A GAMER. I had the oppurtunity and the chance to look at information in my line of work and effectively this is the market age MOST companies aim their games at.

And i would report him to the admins. He effectively stated that he supports piracy and that there is nothing wrong with buying pirated software which is against the rules of the forum.

The average income of people between the ages of 18 to 28 vary widely dependant on blue and white collar jobs. RM800 to RM1600 is a very excellent figure when based on the fact that starting jobs should pay you at least RM1500 to RM3200 for white collar. 50% of your pay is actually very decent considering that people leave home later and later in life. If you don't know this information please go read it up concerning malaysian household habits.

Sadly, these days the majority of purchasers of pirated products are blue collars whose income is not as high or who still believe in the tidak apa attitude, hence the sentencem "ANY WRONG if we purchase pirated software."

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haha sanc enuff said ~~
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QUOTE(Sanction @ Nov 3 2008, 07:52 PM)
Here is some basic information.

The breakdown for age gaps is this.

12 below.
18 below.
25 below
35 below
above 35

Now, the highest amount of purchasers are those between the ages of 18 to 30. Reason? School leavers, working adults, mostly single and male. The MMO market survey for WoW already indicates that this is true. If that idiot who walked in and asked where the TS got his info from please inform him that if he didn't know about this piece of basic information, HE IS NOT A GAMER. I had the oppurtunity and the chance to look at information in my line of work and effectively this is the market age MOST companies aim their games at.

And i would report him to the admins. He effectively stated that he supports piracy and that there is nothing wrong with buying pirated software which is against the rules of the forum.

The average income of people between the ages of 18 to 28 vary widely dependant on blue and white collar jobs. RM800 to RM1600 is a very excellent figure when based on the fact that starting jobs should pay you at least RM1500 to RM3200 for white collar. 50% of your pay is actually very decent considering that people leave home later and later in life. If you don't know this information please go read it up concerning malaysian household habits.

Sadly, these days the majority of purchasers of pirated products are blue collars whose income is not as high or who still believe in the tidak apa attitude, hence the sentencem "ANY WRONG if we purchase pirated software."

Cheers people
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+1. Awesome piece of info.

Btw, sanc, there's no need to report him, I believe he had learnt his lesson.

Cheers,
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nuff said....
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QUOTE(dfcloud @ Nov 3 2008, 05:26 PM)
doh.gif
my point is, ea never embrace piracy shakehead.gif
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Well, perhaps they look at it differently than most. Unlike other companies, they eventually come up with ideas to curb it. I doubt they are the ones that put it there though (cd-protection), they are the publishers, not the devs.
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they are the 1 that controlling the type of copy protection coz they're the 1 thats is going to distribute the game. they set the rules
not the dev whose job is making the game shakehead.gif


Added on November 4, 2008, 9:45 amps: sorry if i sounded harsh...
just hate those suckassrom shakehead.gif

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From: wheres d oil price is higher than condoms..

reduce d price to RM50...
u will see a big changes in gaming industry in Malaysia..
munny is d main thing...
buy expensive hardware lumsum...
buy ori games....every month or week...
so if anyone want to do a petition on reducing d ori games to RM50, i'm in...
i love ori games but i dont love how Malaysian Govt do d pricing etc...
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post Nov 4 2008, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(wonghanjiang @ Nov 3 2008, 02:54 AM)
TS are so stupid for asking this question there r no such things that where gamers in Malaysia are mostly students and young adults aging from 16-28. Their age also represents their purchasing power, having an average of RM800-RM1600 to spend monthly.

Did u make a survey first before u post ? and one more things any wrong if we purchase pirated software ? did everyone spend their money on game and don't spend on their food? U better thinks about it TS life and virtual reality are not same
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you are more stupid for the following reasons:

1) you can't even speak or write in proper english.
2) you have the money to buy a powerful rig but don't have the money to spend on original games.

so i conclude that you are more stupid then the ts.

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