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post Nov 23 2009, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(gto87 @ Nov 22 2009, 05:38 PM)
I get a chance to test HCS5640/C6 and compare it with DA5000pro at ALL IT yesterday. I was testing it for one hour and I asked the sales person to mute all other speakers because there was no other customer and I told them I'm very serious about buying one of it. So it's fair to say I'm satisfied with the way I've tested it. The result? In terms of sound produced I should say Da5000PRO wins hands down. For me it produced much cleaner sound and it's long throw sub is better than the normal cube HCS5640 sub.

The material for both speakers sets are different; Natural wood for HCS5640 and Complete MDF wooden cabinet for Da5000pro (Sorry if the infromation is wrong).
From what the ALL IT sales person said to me, MDF can help produce a better bass sound while Natural wood can help produce a more natural sound. Also, he said MDF is better. I'm not adding anything, this is his exact words and sorry again if I helped spreading wrong information.

In terms of price, DA5000pro is RM100 (RM699) cheaper with more powerful Satelites and subwoofer, better material,  but lack of external Amplifiers. It's your call. If it's me, Da5000 pro for sure. But picking a sound system is a subjective thing, so I advise you to go test it for yourself before you buy it.
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if the DA5000 pro is cheaper to HCS5640, DA5000pro should be superior because the cost of the HCS5640 external amp housing, sd card reader and usb direct input wont be only Rm100 isnt it? beside, its the pro version which should include some updates to the old da5000.

my opinion would be DA5000 pro is like the "no frills" 5.1 of edifier, one successor to R501. i love no frills items, so you dont pay for something you might not need. and as for the MDF, im pretty sure both systems use MDF. it's just the paint of HCS5640 is like the C3, natural wood finish.


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post Dec 9 2009, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(gto87 @ Dec 9 2009, 03:21 AM)
My brother want to buy Da5000pro also. But he planned to put it in the living room. Can the speaker set be used in such a big place? (It's not very big, but still it's a living room)
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that is the function of huge power. DA5000 pro should be enough to handle medium sized room. provided its 100W+ ratings. usually, for multimedia (computer) speakers, they sound good when you're in front of them. but home-theater speakers are designed differently, we all know nobody is watching their TV in front of them directly. so they're designed to sound better if you're listening across the room rather than in front of them.

i personally have not listened DA5000pro but im sure it is the successor of R501. i do own the R501 and i can tell u its absolutely worth the price.
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post Dec 12 2009, 10:45 AM

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from the beginning i already doubt the mako from the one-way satellites and down-firing sats and sub. plus the non-wooden subwoofer. so how does it sound? justified to the price?
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post Jan 3 2010, 03:56 PM

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yes, Edifier E3100.
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post Jan 9 2010, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jan 8 2010, 08:48 PM)
I did another test auditioning both the S730 and the S330.To my ears, S730 wins by the slightest of margins.So, i'm really thinking of getting the S330 or if there are other newer products,then might consider them as well.

Btw, i'm connecting the speakers to my laptop.Should i go for the "D" or not?
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jan 8 2010, 09:01 PM)
What do u mean by an external sound card? rclxub.gif

The laptop i'm going to buy has this "Integrated CREATIVE Sound BlasterĀ® X-Fi MB Audio Software Solution".Is this okay?
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if you hear the S730 only wins abit, u might want to check the S530 out. no point getting a huge speaker when the smaller one is enough. better spend the money to get an external soundcard i.e. x-fi surround 5.1 usb or xonar u1.

the laptop has x-fi mb its better than nothing, but still, external soundcard have better hardware than minimalist onboard audio.

as for the D, if your laptop supports digital output then you can use digital connection.
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post Jan 10 2010, 02:17 AM

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e3100
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post Jan 10 2010, 03:26 PM

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i have M3300 in the past i just dont like the subwoofer. M3300 should be fine if you dont mind the subwoofer. if M3300 sat + E3100 sub its perfect.
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post Jan 11 2010, 09:55 PM

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WOW! i've been a fan of MP300 since i bought the white for myself and get my cousin the black MP300+.

its an excellent speaker for the size, even better with many colours. a good idea for birthday present!
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post Jan 30 2010, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(meowid @ Jan 28 2010, 09:25 PM)
No limit  brows.gif  Saving now to upgrade. 1K? hmm.gif
I see S530 and S730 are Edifier upper range. Is the difference in quality worth it? Or get a bookshelf?  sweat.gif
Love the E3100 vocal, but the bass quantity is not enough in proportion to the vocal. Eg. Cymbal and bass guitar too soft.
Using E3100 for music ( looking for better one ) and movie ( good enough to me ).
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well then you have to find speaker which has good midrange. subwoofer E3100 should be good enough. if u have M3300 its even worse.
u may want to try the new MX6021 or MX5021. even though they are not excellent, should provide value-for-money sound.

the other day i tested S530 and S730. definitely S730. S530 bass is too muffled and high. it doesnt go deep enough, perhaps at 50hz it bottlenecks already. S730 would be lower, but a sub that big should be even lower.

if u can find S2000V its a good one. i love its mid and high. too bad its rare. and there is S2000 which is better with external amp.
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post Jan 31 2010, 03:03 AM

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audition depends on the shop. some nice shops allows u to plug in to your own mp3... the problem with audition is, the speaker placement there and in your house is not the same. most of the case is the speaker in the shops is too near to your ears. that's why some sounds very good.

anyway, correction on my previous post, the E3100 sub is lower than something like M3300 subwoofer. how low the bass can play is very important to me. in spec M3300 may beats E3100 but the fact is, the i feel E3100 plays lower than M3300. maybe lower tuned box or cone. regarding midrange, its sound that subwoofer doesnt play. try turn off your subwoofer and listen... sometimes, for some songs, i turn off my subwoofer completely so i can hear midrange. but it depends on speakers though..

compare S530 vs E3100 definitely S530 is the winner. but is the upgrade worth for you? nah you decide... better audition first before buying.

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post Feb 14 2010, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Feb 13 2010, 12:02 PM)
unboxing my Edifier C3 now!!!!

One word- AWESOME!! rclxm9.gif  thumbup.gif

On the downside,the subwoofer is such a let down.Extremely weak....in fact weaker than my previous speaker set mad.gif And the bass is already maxed at 9...Even my dad says the bass is not good..It has quality but so weak mad.gif

I know before buying that its woofer is weak.....but certainly not to the extent of being this weak sweat.gif

Can external sound card like Asus Xonar U1 solve the bass problem.Perhaps it can improve the bass power hmm.gif

Am i having a defective subwoofer??How to test? doh.gif
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check out my thread : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1314406

one note : just disable the channel mixer since C3 is a 2.1 speaker. still, it would improve the bass by quality margin
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post Feb 24 2010, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(simple_HANZ @ Feb 21 2010, 08:09 PM)
hi,.. wondering if anybody ever heard about connecting a ipod or a player to a c3?
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it will work well. its just about the same as connecting a laptop to a speaker.
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post Mar 1 2010, 07:12 PM

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M3300 bass is weak and muddy. shouldnt be a problem if u set the knob around 50% and below though.
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post Mar 3 2010, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(KepalaRadio @ Mar 3 2010, 06:22 PM)
Might I ask, If i were to get the E3100/M3300, is it worth pumping an extra ~RM180 for a C3 for casual listening?

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If i were to use any of the speakers stated above and connect them directly to a laptop, would there be a significant change in audio quality if i were to use the intergrated soundcard compared to when purchasing a separate soundcard?

In short, do soundcards cause significant differences in audio quality?
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when u use better soundcard there is better sound quality. no doubt. but with limited budget, it's better to invest on better speaker first. for example E3100 + RM200 soundcard may not be better than C3 + onboard sound which all equals to around 400RM.

for me, rather than upgrade the soundcard, might as well upgrade the speaker altogether. until im happy with the speaker, then i get the soundcard to reveal the true potential of that particular speaker. hope you understand..
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post Mar 3 2010, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(KepalaRadio @ Mar 3 2010, 09:20 PM)
So what you're trying to say, good sir, is with the same sound card, the better speaker will still sound better than the inferior speaker? Also, might I ask if it is possible to upgrade the sound card of a laptop? Because the speaker would be usually connected to my laptop.
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exactly. even with very good soundcard an inferior speakers have slight chance to beat a good speakers with onboard sound. it's because with limited budget, the difference between speaker levels are very big. unless you already have a nice sounding speakers, it's time to upgrade the soundcard.

there are some soundcard for laptops. personally i only have tried the creative x-fi 5.1 usb, but im back to onboard now. here is why.

may i know what is ur budget and what will be the speakers purpose? for <200 i strongly recommend E3100. i bought it once for my friend. some others will recommend M3300 or M3300SF which is around RM250 but i don't really like it. prefer the cheaper E3100, better bass and treble-knob to reduce "brightness" of the satellites when needed.


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post Mar 3 2010, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(KepalaRadio @ Mar 3 2010, 09:56 PM)
I'm trying to find for a set of 2.1 speakers for my room. Will use it mostly for playing music i guess. I also do watch series and anime using it. I initially i set a budget of RM300 for a set of speakers but after reading how "epicly awesome" C3 is i'm tempted to purchase that instead.

As for the types of music i listen to, i would say Blues, Jazz, Classic Rock and Alternative Rock, stuff ranging from Ray Charles and BB King to White Stripes and Radiohead. What's your take on this? Do you think it's worth getting C3 or should i just stick to E3100/M3300? Anyway if i were to get any of these i will most likely not get a sound card, going to stick to the stock sound card.
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well if you were to compare C3 and E3100 if budget allows i will recommend the C3. onboard sound is good, external would be better.

anyway just a note for the C3, it has weak bass. if you like bass it will disappoint. although there are some software that help C3 out of the problem. i was tempted to get C3 at the beginning but end up getting R501 with the same price cause my laptop onboard supports 5.1. if your laptop support 5.1 i will recommend R501, same price with c3.
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post Mar 5 2010, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(lion5340 @ Mar 5 2010, 11:02 PM)
may i know what the different between DA5000 and DA5000 pro?
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as far as i can tell they basically replace the satellites with the superior one. regarding component inside they should be identical, at least the picture says. check out both links below:

Edifier DA5000
Edifier DA5000 Pro
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post Mar 7 2010, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(Dai Li @ Mar 7 2010, 07:24 PM)
by midrange what do you mean?and i dont really understand the brightness in audio talk.hehehe.it seems like those 2 are my option for now.im just concerned that, since the price almost the same..r501 have more satelite..then the quality shud be lesser since the cost more to have 5 satetlite.lol.
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the R501 is cheap because it is a no-frills system. remember it only have on-off switch it doesnt have any button, all relies on remote, which is good for ppl like me who never need headphone jack or volume knob. S330 is based on S series, but i dont find it good. the subwoofer is muddy when knob is set at max. the only good thing is the satellites that is bright, means can hear clearly.

the r501 has more midrange which covers most of the human sound and some instruments, which makes it sounds "full", not dry. nevertheless the R501 is not plenty with midrange, but for 400 price its an excellent 5.1 system. no doubt.
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post Mar 7 2010, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(andrew9292 @ Mar 7 2010, 07:49 PM)
Agreed, S330 is bright and slightly muddy. The location of the woofer and material around the woofer (wooden floor, wooden table etc) will determine it's sound, muddy or tight or thick or low. The problem is there is no treble control for the satellites, so you cant really "match" the sats and woofer when the bass is too boomy or light etc...

Went audition kao kao di, planning to get one of them soon ; )
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actually the case some of edifier is classic, it will get very boomy if you set the knob to more than 75%. the problem is there isn't any treble controller to match so the bass is always lacking. if cranked will get boomy, otherwise not enough bass. the case with my edifier X300, M3300, R501 even MP300.

lucky now i have the solution for it, still, it requires me not to set the bass any higher than 3/4.
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QUOTE(Dai Li @ Mar 7 2010, 08:22 PM)
ic.thx for the explanation guys =) so if im buying the r501..i should make sure to get the r501mk2 version rite?this one will have the 2 way sat yea?
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