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 Why the rant about exclusives?, ExClusives only for xbox360,ps3, etc etc

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post Oct 31 2008, 06:48 PM

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LOOK GUYS!
SHUT UP!

the ps3 has its games and the xbox has its games.
if they have the same games,it's a good thing.

whatever it is,just be grateful that you have such games on your console.otherwise xbox owners would not have gotten devil may cry 4
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post Oct 31 2008, 08:50 PM

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Quite a lot of the exclusive rants are fanboyish pleas.

HOWEVER, do note that owning a video game console (or gaming PC) is an investment. Therefore, chances are, exclusives are a big deal when thinking of a gaming console to purchase.

For instance, if both PS3 and 360 are getting most of the games a person wants, the choice then comes down to say...MGS4, which is PS3 exclusive. So the person buys a PS3.

Much later on, MGS4 comes out, and a few months later, MGS4 also comes out for the 360. This might not seem like such a big deal, but after such a time has passed, say the person now wants more games on 360. Like Gears of War 2, for instance.

See the picture? The person will now perceive himself to have "wasted" money in buying a PS3 because they couldn't foretell the future (who could?) and have technically, with the announcement of X game being released on X console, made the wrong choice in purchasing a console, on top of any other factors that may have influenced the decision (other games, lower RROD perhaps, or maybe free online, etc).
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post Oct 31 2008, 09:41 PM

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But to tell the truth huh
when u hav all two console and a pc rolleyes.gif brows.gif
u end up don know which one to choose
exp. Fallout 3,Farcry 2

hihi...exclusive also good and also bad....

good
don have to pening which platform to take

bad
scare end up picking the wrong platform ,u end up playing them alone sad.gif

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QUOTE(JPlaSMaY666 @ Oct 28 2008, 04:32 PM)
Hi all, i've just been browsing through the forums coz i'm quite free nowadays. And i've tend to come alot quite a number of threads lamenting the loss of an exclusive title for another platform for example 'Final Fantasy 13' which is coming out on both the PS3 and XBOX360. My Question would be..why the unhappiness or uneasiness just because the game company chooses to release the game on another platform so others can enjoy them? Is there a need for hostility or bitterness because of the loss of a 'so called exclusive' to another gaming console? I feel we have become too attached with our affliations to our respective consoles that whenever we see an exclusive title being marketed on another console,we feel a tinge of jealousy or whatnot..shouldnt we b happy as gamers that other console gamers are able to enjoy the game just as much as us?

or is there a reason that is stirring up the unhappiness?i would like to know your thoughts on the subject..i'm not trying to point fingers on anyone but i would just like to understand the frustrations if there is any when it comes to the loss of an exclusive title to a rival console.peace out icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 31 2008, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(jackhammer84 @ Oct 31 2008, 05:03 PM)
well, coz it's basically a port. those games are originally developed for the 360 as the lead development platform and then ported to the ps3. there are bound to be irregularities appearing when the game is ported, different architecture. so you'll obviously see more bugs/slow framerate/etc in ps3, coz of the simple fact that it was originally developed for the 360 first

but we'll be seeing more developers using the ps3 as lead development in multiplatform games in the coming months, so we'll see how that turns out.

anyways, i'm all for multiplatform. fallout3 used 360 as lead. but that ain't stopping me from getting the ps3 version, despite the bugs smile.gif
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Its been more than 2 years and the results is still the same. I have been hoping that it will get better because i bet on the PS3 too, but so far the PS3 is still lagging behind despite all the "Potential" power it got. Maybe its only a myth that can never materialise.

Maybe next year....
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post Nov 1 2008, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Oct 31 2008, 11:47 PM)
Its been more than 2 years and the results is still the same.  I have been hoping that it will get better because i bet on the PS3 too, but so far the PS3 is still lagging behind despite all the "Potential" power it got.  Maybe its only a myth that can never materialise.

Maybe next year....

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Lagging behind?? lag what?? The devs aint tapped into the full horsepower of the ps3 yet. Even the PS2 needs almost 4 years before dominating the console market. And the result aren't the same. The PS3 has improved a lot since they launch their console. The PSN is getting better, and better games are heading to the ps3. As the 360 heading out in maybe a couple of years, the ps3 is best bet for future gaming. do some research, the ps3 sales are doing well after the released of MGS4 and the price cut. Actually, it has increase over 192% this year. So the results is not the same

No, i may sound like a fanboy but im not. I owned 3 consoles (at least 2 coz my 360 died on me again).
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QUOTE(aiyish @ Nov 1 2008, 12:28 AM)
Lagging behind?? lag what?? The devs aint tapped into the full horsepower of the ps3 yet. Even the PS2 needs almost 4 years before dominating the console market. And the result aren't the same. The PS3 has improved a lot since they launch their console. The PSN is getting better, and better games are heading to the ps3. As the 360 heading out in maybe a couple of years, the ps3 is best bet for future gaming. do some research, the ps3 sales are doing well after the released of MGS4 and the price cut. Actually, it has increase over 192% this year. So the results is not the same

No, i may sound like a fanboy but im not. I owned 3 consoles (at least 2 coz my 360 died on me again).
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if 360 is heading out in the near future, sony SHOULD be worried then. obviously the next gen of xbox will feature better graphics and better specs. so in a way PS3 suddenly became obsolete. does sony afford to play catch up again?

read around the net. PS3 is not as powerful as sony wants you to believe. it is only comparable with the 360. that is the fact. and i know it's hard to swallow. but it's the reality.

like someone said here, it's about their investment and how that investment should be justified. well, they got cheated by sony's marketing. and sony didn't deliver what they promised.

remember when ps2 was about to come out? how they said it can do FMV quality graphics in real time? it's 2008 now.. i didn't see it yet from that machine.

remember when ps3 was about to come out, they played the killzone trailer and looks like it beats everything in terms of graphic and detail? tell me now, since killzone is about to be released soon, did it feature that kinda graphic?

i refuse to answer the obvious.
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post Nov 1 2008, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Oct 28 2008, 04:40 PM)
Fanboys.. easy to understand difficult to tolerate. I'm even cursed for getting 3ROD on my XBox360 just because I'm not defending PS3 even though I own one tongue.gif
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Spot on dude, u r old enough to see a few generations of fanboys war.
Remember the good old days,
i got into fistfight with friends vmad.gif because they said Neo Geo CD will lost the console war.

Oh yea, Neo Geo CD lost the war to SNES,
and i cried for months wondering why my graphic power house NGCD flex.gif will lose out to SNES with low tech graphic & primitive sounds & babies games.
I am so stupid, rclxub.gif i think SNES is for sissy man that can't play KOF 94,
I am such a SNK fanboy back in those days brows.gif

Sounds familar? wink.gif
History is repeating itself in this forum. smile.gif
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QUOTE(technophile @ Nov 1 2008, 01:13 AM)
remember when ps3 was about to come out, they played the killzone trailer and looks like it beats everything in terms of graphic and detail? tell me now, since killzone is about to be released soon, did it feature that kinda graphic?
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well actually,it's fairly close if not better than that trailer.

not just graphically,ofcourse.
but movement of the characters and such.

it's remarkable they got anywhere near that 2k5 trailer
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post Nov 1 2008, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Nov 1 2008, 01:19 AM)
well actually,it's fairly close if not better than that trailer.

not just graphically,ofcourse.
but movement of the characters and such.

it's remarkable they got anywhere near that 2k5 trailer
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LOL!
dude.. you are so in denial!!!

read back what you wrote.. you are so contradicting..

and i was talking about graphics.. since we are on the topic of console's horsepower.

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QUOTE(technophile @ Nov 1 2008, 01:21 AM)
LOL!
dude.. you are so in denial!!!
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right.
you're welcome to form your own opinion on the matter,but it looks pretty close to me.
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QUOTE(technophile @ Nov 1 2008, 01:21 AM)
read back what you wrote.. you are so contradicting..
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contradicting?how so?

QUOTE(technophile @ Nov 1 2008, 01:21 AM)
and i was talking about graphics.. since we are on the topic of console's horsepower.
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horsepower is more than just powering pretty graphics.

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Nov 1 2008, 01:23 AM)
right.
you're welcome to form your own opinion on the matter,but it looks pretty close to me.
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contradicting?how so?

horsepower is more than just powering pretty graphics.
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most fanboys arguments is around how horsepower relation to pretty graphics.
in fact, ppl here are talking about the "untapped" power of PS3. to do what? making your coffee? iron your clothes?
it's obvious they are talking about graphics rite?

anyway those killzone trailer screens are on low res and blurry compared to the killzone 2 screen grabs.
try comparing it against higher definition trailer and you'll get what i mean.
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QUOTE(technophile @ Nov 1 2008, 01:38 AM)
most fanboys arguments is around how horsepower relation to pretty graphics.
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well yeah,but that doesnt mean that's all it's for.

QUOTE(technophile @ Nov 1 2008, 01:38 AM)
in fact, ppl here are talking about the "untapped" power of PS3. to do what? making your coffee? iron your clothes?
it's obvious they are talking about graphics rite?
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yup

QUOTE(technophile @ Nov 1 2008, 01:38 AM)
anyway those killzone trailer screens are on low res and blurry compared to the killzone 2 screen grabs.
try comparing it against higher definition trailer and you'll get what i mean.
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there was a comparison video done by GT sometime back.
here

unfortunately that's a yead old.lol.
not even current footage.



btw,what about that post was contradicting?
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post Nov 1 2008, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(technophile @ Nov 1 2008, 01:13 AM)
if 360 is heading out in the near future, sony SHOULD be worried then. obviously the next gen of xbox will feature better graphics and better specs. so in a way PS3 suddenly became obsolete. does sony afford to play catch up again?

read around the net. PS3 is not as powerful as sony wants you to believe. it is only comparable with the 360. that is the fact. and i know it's hard to swallow. but it's the reality.

like someone said here, it's about their investment and how that investment should be justified. well, they got cheated by sony's marketing. and sony didn't deliver what they promised.

remember when ps2 was about to come out? how they said it can do FMV quality graphics in real time? it's 2008 now.. i didn't see it yet from that machine.

remember when ps3 was about to come out, they played the killzone trailer and looks like it beats everything in terms of graphic and detail? tell me now, since killzone is about to be released soon, did it feature that kinda graphic?

i refuse to answer the obvious.
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Yes, the PS2 does not bring FMV quality in real time, but the machine is still succesfull. IT seems that u based the PS2 on its grpahic power, not those great games like Okami and Yakuza that was released on the system. Even how dull the the graphic was, the core thing about gaming machines is about the gameplay.

Why some of us still favour playing SNES? Because great gameplay can be found in the games that were released on that system.

Im just giving opinions, im not stating facts.
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When Dreamcast get the dice rolling, Sony:
"look, PS2 can do FMV quality in real time *showing FFVIII dancing scene*", and up to this day, still no such quality.

When MS gets the 360 rolling:
"ew, so many (2 at that time) SKUs only confused the consumers", and now they have at least 6 different SKUs.
"rumble technology is a thing of the past, it's all about six axis in the future", and now they are pushing hard for the DS3.
"Xenon? Our CPU are couple times more powerful than that, good luck!" and 2 years on still haven't been able to show such "power", and always hide their inferior GPU spec.

When Nintendo announced Wii:
"That's not innovation gamers wanted", and come out with the "godly" but garbage six axis.

Other stuff:
Look at the amount of HDMI and USB ports first proposed, and look at the specs first proposed, you must be blind not to realize the current PS3 is a watered down version of the plan.

Conclusion:
I have nothing against PS3, nor PS2 and PS1, heck, no one is a bigger supporter than me in this forum I dare to say. It's just that I don't like the company as a whole with their lies and tricks. As a gamer I just play whatever game that's good without caring what console they are on.
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Nov 1 2008, 10:57 AM)
When Dreamcast get the dice rolling, Sony:
"look, PS2 can do FMV quality in real time *showing FFVIII dancing scene*", and up to this day, still no such quality.

When MS gets the 360 rolling:
"ew, so many (2 at that time) SKUs only confused the consumers", and now they have at least 6 different SKUs.
"rumble technology is a thing of the past, it's all about six axis in the future", and now they are pushing hard for the DS3.
"Xenon? Our CPU are couple times more powerful than that, good luck!" and 2 years on still haven't been able to show such "power", and always hide their inferior GPU spec.

When Nintendo announced Wii:
"That's not innovation gamers wanted", and come out with the "godly" but garbage six axis.

Other stuff:
Look at the amount of HDMI and USB ports first proposed, and look at the specs first proposed, you must be blind not to realize the current PS3 is a watered down version of the plan.

Conclusion:
I have nothing against PS3, nor PS2 and PS1, heck, no one is a bigger supporter than me in this forum I dare to say. It's just that I don't like the company as a whole with their lies and tricks. As a gamer I just play whatever game that's good without caring what console they are on.
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hmm,lets keep the animosity at a minimum here shall we?=)we're all here to discuss about the above mentioned topic..but the earlier post about the promised 'exclusivity' games like ff13 i can understand.hahah,for ppl who bought a PS3 just for ff13 while they hav an xbox360 sitting at home would b pissed off since it's comin out on the xbox 360 anyways=)dat i can relate to..
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nahh, i dont tink we're all that immature till we cant even discuss things properly in dis thread.. so far, it's been quite informative for me the things that have been posted here..

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