No need to lift. Just roll it.

I don't think its a issue with dynamic mid bass. If it is then even increasing the sub volume will not improvr that as the sub will never produce any mid bass as this frequency has been cut off by the avr crossover. My Denon sob crossover is set at 80hz so anything above that will not be generated by the sub.

I guess that explains why I have to increase the level of the sub by more than 20 db just to feel the punch especially when playing music.

I try moving the sub around to the other corner and not much different and there is no other place where i can put this sub in my living room so i guess i have to live with it.

This post has been edited by lightning69: Aug 4 2009, 10:51 AM

I did bought the SPL meter, but even with the SPL meter I still feel that nothing beats our ear when it comes to the final output. We could get the SPL meter to show all the speakers at the same sound level but in the end if we feel that it still does not give us the punch we wanted, then still need to calibrate with our ears.

The other thing i won't want to do is acoustic treatment for my room. getting the room treated usually requires placement of silly looking things which I cannot compromise for my living room. And moving my sub around to odd places is out of the question too. To me , i am not after the best sound but sound that is appealing to me is ok oledi.

Depends who is asking.

Here is my second impression of the SVS PC12-Plus after 2 weeks....

Before I go into the performance to the SVS PC12-Plus, I would like let you all know that I am not a pro or anything like that so my write up is solely base on my experience with the SVS PC12-Plus.

I bought the SVS PC12-Plus without auditioning it because there is no way to audition it in Miri and it is normally not recommended to buy speakers without listening to it first. But I took the risk and order it because there are so many good reviews on the internet. If you do some research on the internet about subwoofers, there is one name that keeps coming up and its SVS. You just keep seeing people saying how much they love the SVS after they bought it. There is hardly a negative reviews you can find. As you read more and more reviews you really cannot resist the poison of the SVS sub. That is why i jump in blindly without knowing what I might get and what I get is more than what I expected.

The SVS PC12-Plus is indeed a monster when is comes to bass and low frequencies. I am not going to write anything technical because I really don't know what it means. But what I can tell you is that this beast will give you earthshaking bass effortlessly.

I play the scene from Transformer where the robot fire the canons and flew over the screaming woman and OMG...the whole place is rumbling in a nice way. I say "in a nice way" because SVS make it sound so good and so effortlessly. You can feel the rumble moving pass you like the robot actually fly past you.

Another scene is from POTC where the 2 boats were swirling around each other with there is a wave crushing on the front of one of the boats and the effect you got is like a real wave smashing past you. You really can feel the wind blow past you.

Playing the scene from Master and Commanders and those canons are so loud and solid your jaws will drop.

As I play more and more movies, I soon realise how much i have been missing in the past when I was using the B&W and Velodyne sub. I thought i have fantastic bass in the past but they really are no comparison with the SVS. There are just so many low bass that I didn't knew existed.

The SVS PC12-Plus is not just loud but its real gem is in the quality of the bass. The best thing is that is not boomy like my previous sub. Pop in Eagles Farewell Tour in DTS sound and you will be impress how good this thing is with music. Awesome. One thing I realize is that it might make those lesser quality mp3 sounds like shit and bass shy but if you play music with quality bass, then the SVS really shines. One important is how good it sound with movies because its not boomy so you don't get those unwanted boominess even in movies.

So is SVS sub really that good? The answer is a resounding yes. For the price of the SVS sub there really is no equals!!!

Yes, I normally do up the level slightly for music for more bass. One downside of the SVS is that it doesn't have a remote control. That would be really nice.

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Added on August 10, 2009, 2:10 pm I can guarantee you will not be disappointed. It really is awesome.

This post has been edited by lightning69: Aug 10 2009, 02:10 PM

Been busy with kids and home so didn't get to post much while I'm at home. Will be more active once I'm offshore again.

Anyway, I couldn't imagine anyone that will be disappointed with an SVS sub. I think the only better sub will be another bigger SVS sub!

There is no right or wrong way of doing it. For me I want more bass and that is why I raise the level slightly.

Your statement is also very true for lesser capable sub which tends to be very boomy and that is why you might want to reduce the volume level of the sub. My previous sub from a very reputable company did just that so and sound so bad with music.

For the PC12-Plus, the sub produce very clean and beautiful bass and that is why I end up wanting more of it so I turn up the vol.

Talking about speaker sub integration, the SVS somehow blend in so well with my speakers and it just sound so much better than before. In fact my friends was so surprise to hear bass coming from all the different speakers during movies. I can really fell the bass moving around. It just disappear into the rest of the speakers. That is a big plus for the SVS sub. Just amazing product.

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Added on August 10, 2009, 4:02 pmNormally I won't use Pure Direct simply because I don't have the best of everything from the music source to the speakers. My music is either in MP3 or flac playing via WDTV, and my amp is only mid range with avg cables and my speakers is entry level. Putting it on pure direct will not improve anything but just make it sound worst as all the imperfections will be heard.

I think many people have the wrong ideas that pure direct will give the best sound. That is not true if you do not have the best of equipments.

Again there is no right or wrong way of doing it...as long as it makes you happy.

This post has been edited by lightning69: Aug 10 2009, 04:02 PM

Do not access the SVS website...its got virus exploit that may harm your PC.

If you are using firefox, then it automatically stop you from entering.

I don't think that is fair to judge them this way. There are many good subs out there and SVS is just one of them. Not carrying SVS doesn't mean that they are not serious in HT. Afterall, SVS only do direct online order and its not easy to buy an SVS sub for those living outside USA as the shipping cost is very costly.

To be honest with you, not many people know SVS. Its an internet company and only those people who are regular at av forums probably knew about them. But to me its not fair to say someone who didn't knew about a particular brand is not knowledgable about something then. There are literally hundreds of speakers and woofer brand out there and there is no way to carry them or even know them all. And thatdoesn't mean that they are not serious about HT. Just my opinion.

All ported SVS sub can be sealed with the provided seal. I don't think most of us can afford seal sub for music and ported for movies so compromise need to be made. Getting the ported SVS with the option to seal the port is a better choice.

That is my original idea...need to pay copyright for that.

I watch The Golden Compass last night and boy....the SVS sub is indeed mighty impressive. The scene with the airship entering the city, the svs go so low you could feel it shaking the whole room.... and its like a series of slow wave pounding the room.

No...all port open and 25hz(if i am not mistaken) according to the manual. But i am setting my sub volume dial to 1 o'clock to get the kick i wanted. I guess my room is too big so i need to really pump up the vol to achieve the impact i want.

I good thing is that the Pc12-Plus make all this happen without running out of breath. It just did it with ease.

I still remember when the airship move into the city and the low frequency is like pounding the room. I look at my wife and smile. She look back at me and think I am crazy!

This post has been edited by lightning69: Aug 14 2009, 12:37 PM

I try out Outlander a while ago. Good low, but I think the Golden Compass airship entering city part is much better.

Sorry htkaki, but I have to say that is pretty expensive. Its more expensive then if we were to order direct from USA. Having a local dealership is suppose to benefit the local people but looking at the price, its the opposite.

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Added on August 15, 2009, 10:40 pmI have the PC12-Plus and yes, it does have fast, tight and accurate bass for music. This thing is a monster with both music and HT. A must buy.

This post has been edited by lightning69: Aug 15 2009, 10:40 PM

Not just the PC12-Plus. The last time I got PC12-Plus quoted from SVS, it should cost less than Rm5k inclusive of tax and shipping. Your price is almost RM1000 more. I don't want to hurt your business but I think the whole dealership thing should bring down the price as the shipping cost can be much cheaper with ocean freight. The reason SVS sub cost a lot when we ship it direct is because of courier air freight. I don't think as a dealer you ship all your sub via air. If it is by ship, then it should be a lot cheaper therefore the saving should be pass on to the customer. The whole point of SVS selling direct is to cut middleman therefore making their product cheaper to end users. I hope you can work put a better option and bring your price down for Malaysian.