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lightning69
post Sep 30 2009, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Sep 30 2009, 03:05 PM)
Regarding the 220V issue, this is the first time I'm hearing about it. Anyway, let htkaki clarify this with SVS first then we'll get an update.

I would have thought SVS did obtain 220V certification some time ago. Perhaps they did not since the volume of 220V subs sold was smaller in the past. Now that it is getting more popular and they have more local dealers in 220V countries perhaps it is now time to get 220V certification. This is just my speculation.
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I check back my email from Ron and the 220V surcharge is a whopping 25% for certification! I just don't quite why such a big amount just for certification and that apply to each and every SUB!!!


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post Sep 30 2009, 04:21 PM

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If I'm not wrong, that is already charge to the SVS product we got here.
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post Sep 30 2009, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(mys_terious @ Sep 30 2009, 05:46 PM)
bro lighting i think most ppl here get irritated by u coz u have been repeating( or should i say Bhaskaring or logiteching) n complaining abt the same thing here.. i know u have the right to complain but repeating your rm3800 price here is useless.. htkaki has declared that he wont be doing dodgy stuff so when u keep reminding every1 how cheap svs is in UK,US and your magic number rm3800 ppl get annoyed coz u very well it is impossible to get anywhere near their price..
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Please do understand the series of events that lead to me pointing out the price i got my sub AGAIN. I was just quoting the review from Home Cinema Choice posted here and it so happen to state the estimated price of the PC13+ which lead me to punch the number in my cal. I don't even know how much htkaki is selling the PC13+ as he has not PM me the price after repeated request.

Then the next thing is someone came bashing me and calling me names like prick which is really uncall for.

Just remember that I never never stop anyone from buying from our local dealer. If you think my comparison is unfair, you are also entitle to your opinion.

For me, I am just a guy who like to shop and compare prices and want to know where my hard earn cash go.
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post Oct 13 2009, 04:00 AM

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QUOTE(mys_terious @ Oct 13 2009, 01:15 AM)
it is quite often for new movies to have sub 20hz signal...
ppl like svs coz it can go low hz in high spl thus filling the av room n creating that steam feeling
overseas ppl like it even more coz for the cheap price it really does make movie watching more fun.. but over here coz our tax is so high, the price doesnt look like a budget sub anymore
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Yep, fully agree. Actually I don't quite understand how the SVS could cost so much more in malaysia. The tax is only 25% but SVS product cost almost 65% more in Malaysia as compare to US. Where is the other 40% hike comes from? By mentioning this will make me very unpopular in here. Just too bad.


Added on October 13, 2009, 4:03 am
QUOTE(TrynRex @ Oct 12 2009, 07:39 PM)
Just curious,

what make the SVS so special that most ppl like it that much? Izit bcos it can go low Hz (as i read comparison with others in reviews)? If yes, how often does a movie have low Hz eg. below 20Hz?

Sorry for noob question.
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I remember i read in another forum where someone ask the question "Is SVS sun really that good?" All i can say is "yes". I just hope this thing can be price closer to the US so more people can enjoy it.

This post has been edited by lightning69: Oct 13 2009, 04:04 AM
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post Oct 13 2009, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Oct 13 2009, 09:33 AM)
It's abt USD460 or more for shipping fee depending on location (D2D) except East Malaysia  smile.gif In total, USD2,731.14 for PB13-Ultra to be shipped direct from US (including taxes). IIRC, arj did post before that to get PC13-Ultra direct from SVS into our country, it is about RM8.4K plus or more.
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Why compare to D2D price? D2D uses the most expensive air freight services. There is a thing call sea cargo that is many times cheaper and is the most common way importer use to import things.

If you are smart enough you won't be fool to compare with the most expensive but rather with the most reasonable transport cost.


Added on October 13, 2009, 10:10 pm
QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Oct 13 2009, 09:27 AM)
wah... O&G industry yet so cheap?? doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

time to change industry d tongue.gif
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This are the people who talk out of their aSSS.

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post Oct 13 2009, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Oct 13 2009, 09:58 AM)
O&G industry ppl don't make enuff $$ so have to smuggle stuff to lower price hmm.gif farking disgrace
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I didn't smuggle it in you farking idiot. I brought in legally...since they don't even bother to tax me, why pay?
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Oct 13 2009, 09:37 AM)
The number I used was lower than that at still it did not add up to 65%, I'm not sure where that comes from.

The numbers quoted so far, for me are reasonable, as it includes local warranty...
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So where do i get my number from...

MBS-01
US price - USD948 = RM3318
M'sian Price = RM5520
Difference = RM2202 = 66% more

PC12+
US price - USD949 = RM3321
M'sian Price = RM5456
Difference = RM2135 = 64% more

PC13Ultra
US price - USD1399 = RM4896
M'sian Price = RM7699
Difference = 57%

M-Series speaker systems
US price - USD4099 = RM14,346
M'sian Price = RM24,900
Difference = RM10,554 = 74% more

MTS
US price - USD1419 = RM4966
M'sian Price = RM8090
Difference = RM3124 = 63% more

With 25% tax, i still think the price is too high. You can disagree with me or be fooled to compare to D2D price, the the number above proves that M'sian are paying too much!

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QUOTE(mys_terious @ Oct 13 2009, 10:46 PM)
how abt u tell me how much does it cost to bring a pc13ultra in using sea freight with insurance to your kampung .. oh no i 4got u r just predicting the cost .. u have not have a clue how much does it cost and havent checked anything abt seafreight.... pls do your homework n stop your kopitiam style talk.. i am comparing door to door coz the price htkaki is selling is door to door.. he is definately not selling door to brunei or door to sg.. bythe way i am no fool coz i bought my 13 ultra tax free.. but i am not so stupid to use my tax free price to compare with htkaki's price.. and i am not interested in announcing the price i bought in the forum everyday and think that i am the smartest guy on earth coz it is NO BIG DEAL..

so yeah i would like to see the cheap sea freight u r quoted for 1 unit of 13 ultra to either your kampung, kl or pg port... for once u might be able to contribute to this forum.. enlighten us so we can enjoy cheap sea freight..  .. just to give u a hint.. the trucking cost from svs ohio to the port alone will shock u.. i would like to apologise if i am 'smart enough' to communicate with u.. boy this is harder than Bhaskar
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Excuse me...go back the last few days and tell me where did i mention about the price I pay for my sub. I did mention it long time ago but never did i use it to compare to local price. My comparison to local price is with US price and those include tax!!! Even with the tax it too high.
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QUOTE(mys_terious @ Oct 13 2009, 11:01 PM)
i dont see your the numbers of your cheap sea freight yet.. get proper quotation n numbers 1st .. very hard to communicate with u when u r Bhaskaring
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Maybe you can to explain how air frieght courrier service can ever be cheaper than sea freight, then I will give you the numbers. SVS is famous for charging ridiculous amount for shipping. The last time the quote me Fedex of more than US$1000 rclxub.gif
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post Oct 14 2009, 12:23 AM

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If this is SVS price...

MBS-01
US price - USD948 = RM3318
M'sian Price = RM5520
Difference = RM2202 = 66% more

PC12+
US price - USD949 = RM3321
M'sian Price = RM5456
Difference = RM2135 = 64% more

PC13Ultra
US price - USD1399 = RM4896
M'sian Price = RM7699
Difference = 57%

M-Series speaker systems
US price - USD4099 = RM14,346
M'sian Price = RM24,900
Difference = RM10,554 = 74% more

MTS
US price - USD1419 = RM4966
M'sian Price = RM8090
Difference = RM3124 = 63% more

And this is Velodyne price...

CHT-12Q

US Price - USD799 = RM2796
M'sian Price = RM3000
Difference = RM204 = 7% more shocking.gif

Maybe Velodyne smuggle the sub in too!!! Maybe they are made in malaysia and not tax and shipping!!!


Added on October 14, 2009, 12:30 am
QUOTE(ckyongs @ Oct 14 2009, 12:18 AM)
lightning69, your comparison is not accurate.
eg :
MBS-01
US price - USD948 (SVS direct)= RM3318*1.25tax=RM4147 + RM600(ship+insure)=RM4647
M'sian Price = RM5520
Difference = RM873 = 18.7% (not 66%)
I don't know about the shipping. Just guessing. Hope you can update with more accurate comparison.

Since we are paying too much, what do you suggest we do?
I am really interested to get a few more speakers from SVS. Can you help?
Thx.
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My comparison of 66% is not inclusive of tax and the rest. Minus out 25% tax we still got 41% more. That is still a lot extra.

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CHT-12Q

US Price - USD799 = RM2796
M'sian Price = RM3000
Difference = RM204 = 7% more shocking.gif

Dali Ikon 2
UK price from 689 Pound = 3783
M'sia price = Rm4200 or cheaper
Difference = RM417 = 11%

Dali Ikon 6
UK price from 999 Pound = 5414
M'sia price = RM6000
Difference = RM586 = 11%

Ever wonder how these speakers are only about 10% more expensive then their oversea price. Don't tell me they don't pay tax? Don't tell me they shipping agent charge less?

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post Oct 14 2009, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 14 2009, 12:47 AM)
does the rm3k velo perform as well as the oh so bloated RM3600  PC12-NSD sub?  biggrin.gif

anyway in US, USD799 is probably dealer price, while SVS quotes direct distribution price.. of cos there will be 20-30% differences in similar product categories.. which of coz the CHT12 aint in the same category as svs..


Added on October 14, 2009, 12:49 am

I guess the  qty mover locally for svs will still be subs sales .. smile.gif
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Are you saying that SVS sub performance result in more tax and higher shipping? Now maybe one can explain why the heavy premium on SVS product in malaysia while other speakers brand don't charge such premuim?

For your info...the USD799 are internet price...not dealer price.
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QUOTE(ckyongs @ Oct 14 2009, 12:59 AM)
so for MBS-01
US price - USD948 (SVS direct)= RM3318+ 600= 3918*1.25=4897
M'sian Price = RM5520
Difference = RM623 = 12.7% (not 66%)

lightning69, not sure why you still insist on SVS us price $948. that price, you buy and listen in the factory. but if you stay in malaysia, then you need to somehow send it to malaysia=RM4897. At RM5520, I can drive my truck to htkaki's shop, pay, collect and listen at home. so we need to compare price to your house. we can't somehow download the svs, can we?

As for Velodyne, if you buy at US Price (USD799) = RM2796 you still need to ship to your house. so in comparison M'sian Price = RM3000 to your house is very cheap, I agree. but that is not a reason for me to by a Velo. So what to do if I want to buy SVS?
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When I say SVS pricing is too high, I got tembak from all corners. Then someone say that SVS have to pay tax, and made comparison with D2D shipping prices and how expensive it is.

Now when i provide you all with the comparison price m'sian are paying for other brand speakers, people start saying SVS provide local warranty and services. For your info Velodyne, Dali and all major speakers brands in M'sia pay the same tax, and provides warranty ans aftersales service, demo/support etc, yet their pricing remains competitive.

I'm not trying to destroy SVS or htkaki business. I'm trying to make some sense about the high premium and that is all, but some rich boy comes and throw their money around like all others who cannot afford it don't deserve it.
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QUOTE(bongbo @ Oct 14 2009, 01:13 AM)
Bro,
I have a feeling he'll come down once we meant to harm  biggrin.gif
Moreover we are all Hifi/Av kaki and share same interest.

Lighting69 just wants to warn us on the prices and dont like sellers to take advantage on us as buyers, thats all. He means well thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(arj @ Oct 29 2009, 08:14 PM)
The Ultra is performing its boomboompow duties beautifully biggrin.gif

Can't wait for GI Joe next week lust.gif
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GI Joe 1080P already out in mkv 2 weeks ago smile.gif and its got really got bass.



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