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 Turtles, Terrapins and Tortoises V4, Armored reptiles please enter here :p

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post Oct 11 2009, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(milky @ Oct 11 2009, 10:22 PM)
guys i got few question would like to ask...

1) The papaya as in leaf or the fruits?
2) do we hav to ON the Lamp light for 24 hrs or... @ night need to switch off to let the Tortoise to sleep ?
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1) I feed both and only some accepted the leaves
2) No but no harm leaving on 24/7 as they will find a corner to tug in for the night if enclosure big enough !!


Added on October 11, 2009, 9:32 pm
QUOTE(milky @ Oct 11 2009, 04:25 PM)
who is jared & where can i find him?
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He is the guy -Jaredkuo with the "huge" black tortoise and I think is is based out of Johore !!

All the best

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post Oct 13 2009, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(budblely @ Oct 12 2009, 05:21 PM)
all the sifu in here....just wat to ask..which UVB light is suitable for AST ah? 2.0 / 5.0 or 10.0?
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QUOTE(klaze @ Oct 13 2009, 03:28 PM)
i have the same question too does they require UV bulb ?? T.T mostly morning i will take it out for sun bath nature and save cost  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Not really , I dont and they do just fine !!
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post Oct 13 2009, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(milky @ Oct 13 2009, 05:42 PM)
but i heard that.. if they did not have enof of UV or dunno wat lighting.. their shell is not hardened..... or am i wrong?
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Right but dont really apply to AST - Alligator Snapping Turtle !!
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post Oct 19 2009, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(budblely @ Oct 19 2009, 11:55 AM)
fuyoh....nice shot bro !!! It that a Sulcata?


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No , Sulcata are more yellow/golden in colour (wild form) like below !!

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post Oct 20 2009, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(budblely @ Oct 20 2009, 09:49 PM)
haahahaha yah yah...i go last saturday..just arrive those Snail Eating Turtle...Size ok also...prices like lelong XD
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Those / these are local sp thus possible to catch locally (if you know where to look ) those offered for sale are either WC locally or imported from neighbouring countries thus the lelong price !!
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post Oct 22 2009, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(Jaredkuo @ Oct 17 2009, 06:18 PM)
hope you guys like it.... biggrin.gif
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Heres mine , just bought it off my friend for price you know !! I think could have being yours right ??

Its a CB yearlings

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Also got its babies pic from more than a year ago !!
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post Oct 22 2009, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(Jaredkuo @ Oct 22 2009, 09:25 PM)
Samperth im looking for 1 more... u got any lobang for me??? hehe
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Haha NO if you pick up I can arrange a few for you to choose or you can buy from the other SAM (he breeds them - I think a few eggs cooking now )!!
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post Oct 23 2009, 05:06 AM

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QUOTE(Jaredkuo @ Oct 22 2009, 11:43 PM)
Postlaju to me!!! haha..
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HAHA LOL no way we wont do anything illegal !! Just FYI

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QUOTE(ericolim @ Oct 23 2009, 12:19 PM)
Im a Newbie here...
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Nice star you got there , how big ? Welcome to this thread
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QUOTE(budblely @ Oct 23 2009, 06:21 PM)
yah..this month totally PK....=(
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They are worth every penny or should I say every RM you spent on them !! They will grow huge and you will never turn back (too bloody beautiful for words )



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post Oct 23 2009, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(budblely @ Oct 23 2009, 01:49 PM)
hahah mine nothing special la..stil small XD

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Tomorrow need to get a bigger tank...arghhhh spend $$$ again =(
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For now I think should be sufficient for the tank space but do consider getting them some sort of filter !!

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If you wanna train them to take non-live food consider feeding in another tank or remove the small pebbles altogather !!

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post Oct 26 2009, 07:26 PM

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My friend's about 20 inch AST if include tail 35 or 36 inch !!

Just went to visit over weekend !!

Enjoy
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post Oct 26 2009, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(budblely @ Oct 26 2009, 09:01 PM)
lmao....faint jor...from baby 2-3inch, take how long times to be big like that?
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My friend bought as 2 inch I think back in 98 or 99 so about 10 yrs old now !!
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post Oct 27 2009, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(uzairi @ Oct 27 2009, 12:51 PM)
nice sam! how about their tails ? still intact ? because from my observations if we keep them in 1 enclosure they are prone to get their tails bitten by other specimen. hmm.gif
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You be the judge they the original pair !! Look intact or shorten ??
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QUOTE(whit3feather @ Oct 29 2009, 12:09 AM)
sifus i need some advices here .. T.T
recently my star tortoise has been walking weakly..
when it walks , it looks like its shell are pushing its back legs ..
it wobbles left and right while it walks..
i wonder what happened to it T.T ?
maybe i played him too much ?
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Hows the poo , diet for the last few weeks and its enclosure (substrate used ) ?? Need those infor to determine cause !! Many sickness have same or different causes !!


Added on October 29, 2009, 4:11 am
QUOTE(DecemberRose @ Oct 29 2009, 01:05 AM)
hello...guyz....where can i actually find this kind of rare tortise in KL?
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3 species shown just in this page alone - Roofed turtle , Phayrei (tortoise) and Alligator snapper turtle !!

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QUOTE(whit3feather @ Oct 29 2009, 03:41 PM)
i have been feeding my ST french beans ...

Just french bean ?? If so more sure whats wrong !!

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and wad are the substrate u mean ? 

What they sleep on , or should I say what you use to line their enclosure ie Newspaper , soil , Small pebbles , sawdust/chip .....etc


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btw it doesnt really eat much recently ...
it started to become more inactive
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Sick animals dont move or eat much if they do still move or eat !!



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QUOTE(whit3feather @ Oct 29 2009, 09:46 PM)
is it wrong feeding just french beans ?
sometimes I let it walk on the garden to eat grassed
the substrate is just newspapers
btw hw to feed it calcium powder T.T?
whenever I put the powder on the frenchbeans it will boycott it sleep.gif
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Is it wrong that if you just eat KFC 3 meals a day 7 days a week for a year ?? But since you let it roam in garden to eat grass and with newspaper as substrate my "stone in gut" theory may not be the cause !!

Any pic of it ?? I am thinking another way then - French Bean(rapid growth) , lack of calcium to cause MBD thus weak limbs

Pls do some research ie basic diet or MBD before buying/keeping them (Shop keeper ,seller told you they do just fine on beans or Kang-kong or cucumber ....mono food item as diet )


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QUOTE(beardiekid @ Oct 29 2009, 10:01 PM)
Just to share. Got this today

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And My star  tongue.gif
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Both very nice but do keep an eye on the diet on the baby sulcata - they tend to over-eat on junk and deformed and die for no reason

Baby sulcata has the highest growth rate (from record my fren and I kept) Our best grew av 3 inch or 7.6 cm per year for the first 3 years to reach about a foot long at begining of year 4 - not lumpy or deformed in any part , kind of growth !!

Aldabra and Yni comes next (growth from baby/hatchling )in our records !!

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Added on October 29, 2009, 10:07 pm
QUOTE(beardiekid @ Oct 29 2009, 10:19 PM)
Thanks bro, gonna feed him tomorrow morning with pumpkins and tomatos for immunity system, green veg sprinkled with calcium and multivites. Star is a old girl.. About 1.1kg at 7"  biggrin.gif .

When you say junk what do you mean by junk? Atleast i can know about veg that i should avoid  smile.gif
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Snake,short,long,french Beans (white urate both soft or solid beside rapid unsteady growth ) , dog/cat food ..........etc List just goes on and on Best is just feed them Hay or lawn grass (slow , steady , nice growth) You should get about 2 inch per year !!


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QUOTE(Azazel @ Oct 29 2009, 04:57 PM)
Really? Because here are a few species more:

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I am more than 100% sure the Tort King knows exactly what they are. wink.gif

Frankly, I do not know what I am going to do with them...yet. Probably keep. Probably not.

Enjoy!
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You keeping them pretty dry ?? Look at the scales on their head , and the scutes(last pic especially) and front limbs on the cherry-head pic !!

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QUOTE(hong123 @ Oct 29 2009, 05:32 PM)
Hie all sifus,

My female star tortoise has a big problem. It's very inactive lately and its front limbs seems weak. Her poo and pee is OK. No runny nose. Eating well on orchard grass, cucumber and calcium powder. Under basking light. Has been keeping her around 3-4 years together with a male star tort with same size.

She is 4-5 inches SCL and weight more than 500g. Any idea what causes her to be inactive? Egg bound?
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If all above OK maybe some other long term issue under-address diet or ....etc Better send for Vet check !! Like our friend say she too young for egg bound issue !!


Added on October 29, 2009, 10:44 pm
QUOTE(valjean @ Oct 29 2009, 11:42 PM)
thanks sam. well noted. Will check on the diet then.

btw...help me send my regards to KK. lost his contact when i lost my phone. thanks
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Sure !! Will tell him that !! He is upset his herd not producing anything yet !!

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QUOTE(Azazel @ Oct 30 2009, 02:47 AM)
Yes, I noticed that too. But I have been keeping the cherrys for 2 years (give or take) from 2 inchers with no ill effects or abnomalities. Since they grow and look ok, I will continue until I move all of them outside (this period will be very soon when I move to a new house). They smell less this way too. A year ago, their enclosures were different. And they smell like shi.t. But since I started keeping geckos which is consuming a lot of space (in my freaking jamban LOL!), I decided to alter their enclosures to a simpler one to accomodate my other animals. Now lesser smell yet dryer skin.

Regarding to the scutes - are you refering that it's too dry or already distorted/pyramiding? If it's the former, then I would continue the same husbandry until I move them outside. But if it's the latter, then I guess I have to re-correct my husbandry sooner that I hope. Let me know alright.

Thanks!
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This one's shell not as smooth as they should be (I call these small lump or warty )!! The rest OK As many sources pointing pyramid of shell towards to too low overall humidity togather with diet and supplement !!
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Will end up something like the above Red-Foot if continue down the same path !! (Red-Footed not mine but being offered to me few months back )
Should be like the above Cherry

Remember(he must have shown you ) that baby Aldabra in KK all else OK except for that 3 fused togather scutes that refuse to seperate for the 1 year he has it , thus the deformed overall shape of the carapace - wrong diet beside lack of supplement

Dry skin around head and front limbs seems to like to "attack" indoor Cherry-Head - dont know why !! But since you moving them soon to outdoor should be OK or be corrected by then !!


Added on October 30, 2009, 6:56 am
QUOTE(billyer @ Oct 30 2009, 01:23 AM)
Would like to share some of my baby Sulcata - Solexx pictures with all the sifus here.
Please comment on the food and laying, is it correct?
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Nice baby Sulcata you got there !!

The food part can only see green leaves ( no idea whats being given , so no comment )

As for those paper pellets as substrate do use more to pack them to about 2 or 3 inches deep - keep the dust down to the bottom and Sulcata of all ages like to dig and stay down a bit !!

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