Erm...seriously considering to go into music...just hope to hear bout you guyz that are really into this area...
doesnt matter what instrument or job (just make sure that its in the music field )
what are the pro & cons of being a full time musician?or music teacher?
how much do the specific job earn per month?

this really depends on a lot of things.... if you're a teacher, it depends on your class duration, fees, and how many students you have (duh)... if you're an awesome teacher im sure you can get pretty decent income. Not to mention if you hold classes with a few students all at once, chances are you'll make quit ea lot.

nowdays guitar lessons are like.... 50 bucks for 1/2 hour - 45 mins? That's crazy. Imagine teaching 10 classes a week (5 hours total time). Thats 2K a month just on teaching. If you do other stuff like play in pubs/clubs/bars, you'll probably hit the 3K mark.... that assumes you're really good at what you do

um...sound ok,but i've heard that some musicians actually say that is quite tough for musicians in terms of funds and cost of living?so usually you guys teach with spare time and do gigs ocasionaly?

i'm not a teacher nor a professional musician.

but from what i heard, unless u're the best of the best in the country, its really hard to make a living in malaysia.
even the big names in malaysia also have a hard time making money performing.

so i guess that just leaves teaching music, and that's a more stable source of income.

as i know.... its a hard living for musician in msia ... =(

lolz...the part bout income is what worries me the most...
i mean in KL maybe its better,but other area like Klang?its a whole different story...

You can't just perform to earn money,it's simply not enough in Malaysia.

haha i guess most of the people here are just musicians. less than a handful are good, and even lesser than that are composers.

lol sad to say, i'm one of the noobies. i only know how to copy. havent learn how to be creative yet.

yes, i am a cover band

to be a full time musician..
hard la.. in malaysia...
unless u r very very famous..
if work as a music teacher..
can survive.. juz like kenetix said..

1. Beginner violin student average fee monthly is RM100.
2. The music school will give around 60% to the teacher, which is RM60.
3. Every class is 30 minutes.
4. Teaching full day, from 10AM to 5PM (estimate) which is 7 hours per day.
5. 7 hours can slot in 14 students.
6. Every monthly, you will be paid that for teaching 14 students.
7. 14 students times RM60 is RM840.
8. What if the teacher are working 5 days in a week?
9. 14 students times 5 days in a week is 70 students grand total
10. 70 students times RM60 is RM4200.

Think again, that is the amount you have earn for just teaching beginners. You can still enjoy 2 days rest from it.

What if teaching grade 5 students? Grade 5 average monthly fee is RM160.

So RM160 times 70 students is RM11, 200.

What about grade 8? Diploma????

Malaysians likes to talk about the amount of earning money, so this is theory. Everyone in this thread post is just does not make enough sense for me as I am really serious in music and I have experienced it.

Each Malaysian Philharmonic Orchestra musician earns about RM1, 000 in one performance. I could not explain a lot on this, there is a forumer named "little ice" knows more than me.

Other than that, rock musician earns about RM1, 000 too for a performance. It does not matter if it is a band or solo. I have done a guitar performance for a company and I get paid RM400 for just 3 songs performance. You can do the math for the rest.

Speaking of performance, you have to be very good before you really go out and work. Make sure you play something that the audience likes, but not being selfish playing licks.

This post has been edited by Paramore: Oct 20 2008, 08:31 PM

hmmm...

as for teaching..best bet is to try out anything to do with Grades ..Rock school for example ..

Grade 3 - RM140 per month
Grade 4 - RM160 per month
Grade 5 - RM180 per month..

your salary increases based on how far a student progress ..

if you are not qualified , your student forever paying you RM100 per month ..

anyway , just don't get too carried away to "wanna make loads of money" ....just have fun and have passion ..it will pay , short tem loss , long term gain

okay ..besides the pay ..

another thing to consider is ..."the next promotion" ..

such as , you canot be a guitar teacher forever , one day ..you gotta open your own school..take it to the next level
you canot be a pub/live musician forever , one day ...you gotta be a big time producer , or a pub owner ...take it to the next level.
you cannot be a salesman forever , one day..you gotta open your own bentley music ..take it to the next level..

so ..
pick an industry that suits you..and
go for industries that have a very possible and positive long term effect for you

something that you can actually learn something besides "how to teach" , "how to sell" ..
see how others manage their companies , their systems ...

so that one day you can expand and take it to the next level ..

few more things to consider or you can improve on that could potentially increase your income :
1.returning customer
2.word of mouth
3.networking or customer base (follow up)



This post has been edited by gapnap: Oct 21 2008, 01:25 AM

im not really into the earning load of money thing,its just that its hard to convince my parents why i want to change field,i like to go into the music field,i just dont wanna jump into a blind conclusion 1st,so i decided to ask you guyz,i just hope that my parents wouldn't worry bout me when i switch field but what you guyz shared is really important for me,at least i get an idea what im jumping into,thanks guyz!!!hope there are more input on everybodys experience

well , if being in the music line is your passion , then by all means go for it ...

if not , 10 years down the road , you sure feel life very meaningless ..

i guess you are old enough , your parents should be able to understand ..

i switch field banyak kali already..from science stream , to accounting to music ..but of course make sure you don't switch because you are failing your subjects lah .. switch because you want to ..

lolz...accounting to music?radical man...
im currently in office job,maybe staying until i have enough funds to study music and buy instruments...
currently thinkin of getting a electric guital later,currently have 2 violins,1 accoustic guitar & 1 classical
but would prefer to focus more on violin for now

This post has been edited by icyfawkes: Oct 21 2008, 10:49 AM

Part time performer in pub.

A night with 3 sets; 45 minutes each set, RM200 - RM250 a night.

Depending on the place and the crowd la.

icyfawkes : hey , its not too bad lah..what type of business doesn't require accounting ? hehe..i can keep track on my band's expenditure , claims and stuff ...

aaron5829 : wah bro , you pay is seriously fvcking high ...250 per night ? OMG ...my band only gets RM150 max , per night ..perhaps you are in the Jazz / RNB pub scene ?

the most i got was RM200 , but that was in a club as a solo guitarist with a DJ ..not as a band ..

omg..tats a high price ahh??
my first ever got paid performance is rm200 per night wif another 5 ppl and.. playing 3 songs only.. and plus we r juz students..

and you guyz play gigs 5 times a week?

for me no..
hahaha..
tats our only one get paid performance..
only one time.......... =.="
i wan more!!

This post has been edited by x-crusader: Oct 21 2008, 01:23 PM

Well, yeah, our band plays in a wine and dine bistro/cafe.

We play all types of music ler...

And we play on every Friday of the week.

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Added on October 21, 2008, 2:12 pmBut, i never thought i'm a good guitarist.. hehe...

Just tipu tipu makan.. but i feel i'm a good teamplayer...

Not the kind of guitarist who wanna show off solos on every single song... haha. Besides, i dont even dare to show off... later kena throw bottle..

lol

This post has been edited by aaron5829: Oct 21 2008, 02:12 PM