@icy - currently one of the best col/uni for classical music is UCSI if i'm not wrong. icom is fully modern music, no classical course offered, however UCSI offered both modern music (much smaller by comparison) and classical music.

from what i saw, many musicians accelerate their skills and techniques in master degree, so bachelor is more like a music knowledge course (doesn't mean you don't learn much of your instrument, though). that's why i recommend you opt for mpo players as your teacher (externally) so you can accel in both.

oh and to be fair, there're also a lot of excellent musicians playing as good as master degree holder but they don't hold *any* degree certs at all.

is it possible if i talk to you about this in msn?its abit inconvinient discusing this by posting lolz!!!

yes no to spam

lolz...thats not what i meant,its easier to communicate about that particular subject on msn lolz...
really hope there is a MPO player that would share information bout this topic here
so far we got info bout freelance bands,teachers & music writter/composers already...no orchestra player?

This post has been edited by icyfawkes: Oct 24 2008, 03:11 PM

majority MPO players are mat salleh.
Which means that they are oversea.

I dont think they hang out here.

To enter MPo, haha, not very easy, actually, is verii hard

lolz...doesnt need MPO player,at least a local orchestra player of other teams

icy, i prefer to discuss here so everybody can take it as reference, and i might not 100% accurate and some have their own experiences so everyone can share.

yea... its a gud topic...

MPO Salary :

“As much as 95 percent of the foreign musicians are paid between RM16,000 and RM28,000 a month and given two months paid leave every year. The conductor is paid RM130,000 a month while the (conductor’s) assistant is paid RM50,000 a month,” he said."

From http://72.14.235.104/search?q=cache:jdWs9U...clnk&cd=5&gl=my

This post has been edited by wodenus: Oct 25 2008, 04:18 PM

gosh, we're spending million every month just for mpo players and maintenance...

lolz...i think they can afford it...if im not mistaken MPO is funded mostly by Petronas?
if yes...then the price tag definately isint a prob haha...anyway,its a good thing that malaysia would get good players for us to listen right?

I wrote my own songs. I love music because I love composing. I've been searching for ways to let people hear my songs but its just too difficult. People that i manage to let them listen are just my friends and they will like it very much. But whenever they praise my song, I will feel very sad deep inside although I am happy that they like it cos' I know even if they like it, even the songs are good, I will not have the chance to use it to reach a higher level.. such as notice by record labels maybe..?

But my passion for music still dragging me along until I notice that I need a band. So this brings me to those band searching website and yes... I met a lot of musician. But still searching for musician to form a band. From metalmania, a composer can earn better? I compose more than 50 finished songs and dont-know maybe more than 200 of unfinished songs but how can i let it be usable for my advantage?

For the curi lagu part, yea... I worried too as I did send some of my purportedly good songs to some artist and producers who claim that they can have a view and give some comments. But no answer from them then.

I joined a songwriting workshop before with fees, not because I want to learn but because I hope I can meet people like me and at the same time, let the singer/songwriter listen to my composing... so that maybe he could guide on how to or where should i pass the song to the right people. But to cut short, at the end I wasted my money for the fees and my time. Very sad.

Music path... its not easy.

wow....thats dark....anyways...i think its just a matter of time...its just that malaysia is not a place for musicians?coz audiophiles are even complaining that malaysia is a desert for music lovers why dont try taking your stuff out off this desert and try?might have a higher chances than here eh?

@terces - sorry for my straight words, if your songs are any good, people (you know, those people you wished) will open their eyes immediately.

agree..

i wrote quite a number of song.., a few of them got snapped by local band..! (sorry couldn't reveal the bandname).., yeah.., like metalmania said.., 1st ask them to listen.., or do demo with them.., but after some time.., suddenly you hear a very familiar song on the radio.! hey.. is that my song? they didn't request my song or what.., it's just that i offered to play it to them or demo it to them..! if they like.., ask laa properly.. maybe we talk about dollar and cents.. but hell no.., just like that..

so., now.. i'm a bit careful to whom.. i played or demo my song..

terces.. >> just keep on writing.. .. no worries..! who knows someday.. u might found some fortunes from your song..

and.. take criticism with open heart.. if you wanna improve..! joining a workshop..is a good way to improve your songwriting capabilities..

money? good money.. , naaa.. just do it from your heart 1st.. ! musician and money didn't rhymes well with malaysian scene..! enough for cukup makan only..

for glam and fam..