agree! due to unresponsible owner, many malaysia kucing kampung nowadays look like a pedigree cat.

so sad but true, one day, u will never know how our malaysia kucing kampung look like.

dude don't say like that lah..

the person who bought cap palang bengal is in the same boat with you also. remember you also bought cap palang bengal? ehehe oh ya oh ya and cap palang american shorthair?

so nobody win, we learn from our mistake...

since u know about "cross breed", how come u dont know about certificate, pedigree and so on?

yea like if im malay, im married with chinese girl.. we have children. i told my friend our child is english. its like so obvious father malay, mother chinese, how come children ah-mo? that is so cross breed LOL

no worry... everybody gone through all this...

being a good breeder is not one easy job. u need money, u need time, u need patient. by having pedigree cat is not a show off process. but it is a process to care for the specific breed. let say u become a bengal breeder. the first thing to do is, to care for the breed of bengal.

i don't mind people want to breed their cat, it is your choice to do so, nobody can stop. but never take granted with all this kitten. yes u can sell it, but sell it with minimum price, and let your buyer know what cat is your cat, dont simply say the pedigree name, when it is not pure.

many people, including me long time ago, i dont care what is pedigree, what is pure breed... u need to do reading on all this. after that, then you know why people so strict and making pedigree as a serious talk.

again i don't mind u want to breed your cat, but please do it properly. like long hair with long hair, short hair with short hair. if your cat carry sickness, don't breed them.

the best is to spay/neuter you cat if they are not pedigree. even a pure breed cattery will neuter their cat if they cannot produce good kitten or if they is aggression genetic runs in the family.

neuter/spay is not a bad things to do, trust me, you will get better cats if u neuter them.

depends on what food your feeding your cat.

if it is ORIJEN, then it will spoil faster like "masuk angin".

but if it is other brand, like iams, SP, RC, it will be good in a longer period of time.

what you can do, do not put such big amount of food. let say today, u start feeding maybe 1/2 of tea cup. and you see if your cat finish that within 24 hours. if yes, then continue giving 1/2 of tea cup. if it is finish less than that that time, refill it.

but im not sure how often are you at home. sound like u r a busy type of person, and always not at home (since you put as much as food in the bowl). you can still put half bowl first, and see what happen. and continue the above step, when the half bowl finish in 1 day, then continue feeding your cat half bowl everyday - do not feed him full bowl.

what i know some cats will get loose/soft/watery stool when eating RC babycat. but i never heard about they continously producing this kind of stool..

since they are already deworm, i dont see any worms problems here.

have u try feeding RC kitten? or other Kitten food maybe Science plan, iams? you buy the small pack, mix it with rc babycat slowly, until its 100% new kitten food. and see what happen.

if it is still not working, try to feed them boil half cook chicken with empty plain water. and let them eat the meat+soup as drinking water.

if both still fail, let me know.

p/s at the moment don't feed any supplement.

yea its ok to put the food 24 hours, as long as it is being eaten.

if you don't want your food to expose too long, u go buy this kind of food bowl - pic below.. some petshop selling something like this.. which is good too

i know RC babycat is the smallest size ever...

but even science plan/iams kitten kibble size is the same size with rc kitten. but iams kitten and science plan kitten is not as hard adult food. they may look bigger than rc babycat, but the texture is softer. so, kitten will easily crunch on it. beside your cat is 6 weeks already aight.

i ever saw people feeding 1 month old kitten with adult cat food. image how big is that. when i saw them doing their eating business, they are like chewing/crunch the kibble first - it drop to the flow - then they eat the small small part that has been crunch. smart eh!

so u go for 1st option, try iams/science plan.. maybe skip the rc kitten first since it is under the same company. i know there's a small small packs of iams kitten (purple color), but im not sure what is the smallest pack for Science plan kitten.

i dont see u have much choice over there. yea just try give Science Plan Kitten first. and ask the petshop if they have rc babycat sample pack ehehehehe... or try ask any of your friends that feed RC babycat at the moment, ask for alil grams

Welcome to Cat Lovers gunners37

No it's not super premium

that super premium printed on proformance is just for marketing thinggy. the fact, proformance is standing on the same level as IAMS.

Yes proformance is among the cheapest Premium cat food. but lately very hard to get. i have to switch to Science Plan due to the old petshop will not supply this food anymore.

it's a not bad food anyway...

if u have the money go for Science Plan

if your cats love Science Plan, go for it

if you find it easy to get science plan than proformance, then go for proformance

LOL.. my old vet suggested me RC because he supply that food ehehehe... oh well typical business people will do this. they will push you buying their stuff since they are supplying/selling it.

and for sure a cat will reject proformance if they are currently eating RC.

that is normal behavior.

first of all, wash your hand before your cat start liking you might not want they lick your dirty hand

as for kitten, yes they love licking and biting. some cats groom other cats, like helping each other grooming, so your cat maybe think you are one of them and you need to be groom aswell
as for biting, almost all growing kitten will biting, this is part of their teething process... like human baby, when the teeth grow or change to another teeth, gums start to feel itchy.

some say, when a cat licking you, that's mean they trust and love you.

no, she is not hungry, if she is hungry, she might just eat you without licking eheheh just kidding

krynzpeaches has written a well reply above.. read it carefully.

my advice, anybody who do not know about pedigree cat, domestic cat, cat's health concern, and etc. Please stop breeding your cat.

i really like this statement of krynzpeaches = "Akal manusia dikurniakan untuk berfikir, akal binatang tidak"

i want to add alil bit,
"Akal manusia dikurniakan untuk kebaikkan binatang".
"Tiada kebaikan bermaksud - Cruelty".


Sex is only enjoyable to human. Animals have no feelings/desire like humans do, it's pure instinct and nature to them, that is why they do not recognize father, mother, brother or sister when it comes to mating. No, they will not miss 'the enjoyable of life'. = SO TRUE, ANIMAL WON'T THINK LIKE HUMAN, BUT HUMAN DO THINK LIKE THE ANIMAL WAY.

So, renung-renung kan lah, kewajiban seorang manusia terhadap haiwan yang dikurnikan oleh yang maha esa. Kerana Haiwan itu adalah tanggungjawab kita sebagai manusia.

jenis siam atau warna seperti siam?

dua perkara berbeza tu.

Siamese cat means pure breed/pedigree with come with certificate saying its a pure siamese.

Look like siamese means the cat is kucing kampung but the color look like siamese which is brownish.

good food eh? You have the money? go for ORIJEN

This post has been edited by elfreakz: Jan 8 2009, 03:10 PM

yes, cat do need alot, like ALOT of protein than other stuff such as fat, carbohydrates, etc.

like other premium food, the most protein is 32%/30% and below. Only the super premium will contain high protein ans it is design that way.

yes, and i always to make sure our cats drink alot of water, since we feed our cats dry food.

beside cats need atleast 60-70% of water to avoid dehydrated that cause death.

Well, like this... by nature all cats born to be territory. The more genetics produce good tame cat. but yet, in some ways they are still territory kind of animal.

It will be worst if the aggression of fighting is a genetics that runs in the family. That's why if u have this type of cat, do not breed them, because the aggression will be running in the family.

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About your siamese, how do you know it has 1 testis? Did you go for a check up? or u simply say it is 1 testis?
Have you ever read some HUMAN male complaining they have 1 testis but actually they have 2 and another one is not at the right position?

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Yes we said that the neuter cat won't fight for their territory & less aggressive. But if this behavior runs in the family, it won't fade away. you cat will remain aggressive for his/her whole life.

I was wondering, have you ever neuter/spay your cat anyway? since you didnt mention about it, u only talk about 1 testis. If non of them has been neuter/spay, you have no right to come out with this. Neuter/spay your cat first, then you can ask about it. if you do not, that will answer why your cat fight.

If you neuter/spay only 1 cat, it won't help, since the other are not.

so im kinda confuse, if let say you didnt neuter/spay all of them, how come u ask about the effectiveness now neutering/spaying cat?

you mention you already neuter the male cat, but suddenly you said got 1 testis? Neuter male will never have BALLS. if you still have it, then it is not neuter.

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Dude you sure makes me confuse.

Neuter/Spay cat will make them tame. depends on their genetics background.

But if non of the cat in your house is neuter/spay, how come you ask this question? It will make sense if the cat is neuter/spay.

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Whatever it is, what you see is normal. All cats will start hissing, kicking, starching, and fighting when they first meet. Some will settle down. and some will never settle down.

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Boil fish especially tuna is not good. You have to boil it for quite a long time before feeding your cat. when you boil it for too long, non of the protein will stay there.

Yes fish oil is good, but remember, that oil has been process... it is not come from the fish you boil yourself.

2 different thing, feed fresh fish, or vitamin supplement that contain fish oil.

What you can do is google and search, feeding tuna fish for cats.


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P/S
is this the cat you talking about? = http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/443156/+380#

now u make me confuse again, you mention u adopted him 3 months ago, but how did you know his age is 1 year 9 months?

and another thing, i dont think you understand Pedigree vs domestic cat eh? You cannot simply say that cat of yours is "Himalaya Cross breed Siamese"...

where did you get that title? the mamak stall gave you is it?

This post has been edited by elfreakz: Jan 8 2009, 09:47 PM

i already ask my friend(British short hair breeder) = May I know who is your friend that breed BSH?


When he look at him, than he told me this cat wasn't Siamese pure breed and his feutures is more like Himalaya cross breed. = How did he actually come across himalayan? is it because of the color? if yes, do you know birman and ragdoll come from the same color too? LOL funny lah you people. And i really want to know your friend who breed BSH, i might know him from cat show and malaysia cat society. unless he is also the BYB lah (Backyard breeder).

This cat might be cross breed with Siamese. So that's why i advertised him as "Himalaya cross breed Siamese".(juz to make people interest..hehe..) = You have not learn the pedigree vs domestic is it?
I was wondering, is it so MALU so say kucing kampung, kucing malaysia, kucing jalanan? so low standard is it our kucing kampung? sampai tak mengaku kucing kampung, dan sampai kena pakai nama nama breeds?

About neutered or not, i not sure bout that. I juz thought this cat maybe have been neutered because he don't want any single cat even female close or get near to him even i've tried to put female cat with him in a room for 48 hours.
I also see that he's not and never marking his teritory(pissing the wall) at all. based from my experienced, only the neuter male cat would not do that and that's why i assume that he might be been neutered. = Dude, you have so many cats but you don't really know cats behavior eh? How long have you been staying with cats? Do you ever do research on their behavior? You don't know what is happening if 2 or more males in a house? only 1 cat will spray your house, and the other cannot spray because its belong to that 1 cat. if they spray it too, fight may occur. you see.. since when you have experience on neuter and spay? aren't you the one saying it was cruelty before?

Bout his testis, yapp.. He juz got 1 ball. Mostly all friend also felt wierd too when i show them this cat. I known that human also got same case like that but mostly that people still can have their own children even juz got 1 ball only.. That's why i ask u guyz is it my cat cacat or what.. = The only best way to bring him to the vet. you cannot pin point it has been neuter or cacat. This makes me confuse, because you said you already neuter the siamese look alike, but then you said 1 testis which is cacat. weird aren't it, you actually didnt neuter him, the testis is one only, but u consider it as neuter. again i repeat, lepas kembiri, tidak ada buah zakar.

I really appreciated that you guyz've giving me info bout "benefit of neuter/spay the cat" and the others info. Now i clearly understand why that action is relevan! Thanks a lot my dear friends.. = You are welcome. Jangan baca sahaja ya kenapa buat. kalau setakat baca budak darjah 6 pun boleh.

ok since it is mix, it will be domestic short hair if it is long hair, then domestic long hair.

you can also use the name domestic semi-long hair if the hair is medium length.

Orijen .. hmm 7kg = RM139 gitu lah.