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post Nov 8 2008, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(Mimzy @ Nov 8 2008, 10:00 PM)
I am not so sure lah elfreakz..if in dark places she'll look more to black,and in bright places mcm grey2 sikit!
haha hmm.gif tp rasanya grey lah..hahaa..

eh..how often shud i feed her ahh?
sekarang ni i 'train' die tido dgn i,and i bawak sekali makanan die because die akn cari makanan around 12am onwards!
is it okay for her to take a late supper??
die kerap mkn kdg2 bnyk and mostly sikit!
kalau yg terdedah je sure la kan xmau mkn..huhuh doh.gif
hehe..thanx..a tux uh..she has a tux..hahaa..
its look like black smoke color from the new pic.. macam hitam ada dark brown.. tapi susah gak tengok dari pic, kadang2 lighting boleh tukar warna asal. so hanya you yang tau smile.gif

just let your cat eat... as long as it is a good food. you only control if your cat is over weight.
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post Nov 10 2008, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(merah @ Nov 10 2008, 12:34 AM)
hi alll im new here..
just wanna ask u guys, my cat now like obesiti.. he always sleep after eat..
an dont play to much.. persian female.. and selalu merajuk when we scold her..
smile.gif so can u all give advice for a newbie like me?
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First check the food. What food brand you feeding?

Second, go to the vet for medical check up. make sure she do not suffer from any over weight sickness such as heart problem.

Third, ask vet for advice, they might want u to change food, or maybe diet your cat.

If you have one cat, try to get another one, maybe a kitten, so she can play with them. at least she is not bored, eat, and sleep all the time tongue.gif
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QUOTE(naTTan @ Nov 10 2008, 02:06 AM)
Eh narik, nih kalau nak masuk setakat suka2 ley?
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masuk u mean join? boleh je ehehe..

Home cat memang join untuk suka suka.. unless you have pedigree cat than u compete for points.
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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Nov 10 2008, 09:50 AM)
Alamak El, aku kena ringworm ar....aku google2 kt tenet, it says the main source is cats!!!Aiyaaa!!
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if you have cats, then u get ringworm from them...

ko kena pergi clinic tau, kalau teruk, doktor akan inject and bagi krim.
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QUOTE(NewAchiever @ Nov 10 2008, 01:34 PM)
Got entry limit one eh ~~~ Anyway, if just go as a visitor can? Go there and see see but not bring any cat ~
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yes sure can...

read their website, they already mention = • The show will be opened to the public from 10.00 am onwards.
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post Nov 11 2008, 09:22 PM

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pokok misai kucing (catnip)

dan

Pokok Kucing Galak => http://www.mykucing.com/index.php/topic,216.0.html


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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Nov 11 2008, 11:06 PM)
Saya selalu jugak bg kucing catnip tp kesian plak tgk derang keletihan lepas "layan" catnip tu...huhu...anyway xde side effect ke kt kucing catnip nie?
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catnip (misai kucing) is ok for adult, but not on kitten. there is no side effect.

as long as the pokok tak kena racun serangga then ok tongue.gif jangan lak pokok yang ada racun untuk serangga then u give tu your cat tongue.gif sah sah kena racun waktu main dan kunyah daun tu..
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QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ Nov 12 2008, 12:59 PM)
ELF!! Help!

Momoy was spayed on Sunday, 9 Nov. Actually she was supposed to stay in the clinic. But since she is very fierce, the vet allowed me to take her home yesterday. No use if she stay in the clinic. The staffs dont dare to touch her, so they cant inspect her sticthes and clean her.

Another problem, she's not eating since i sent her to spay.. I bait her with all her fave food - boiled chicken, fish, kibble foods.. but failed.

Anything i should/shouldn't do to fasten her recovery process? Can i put hot pressure (tuam) on her stitches?
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aik.. sound like she is so STRESS now...

did u try to offer cane food? the Science Plan/whiskies, friskies, snappy tom punya brand? during my cat kembiri they eat this for few days, with alil bit of kibbles.

female memang agak culture shock with kembiri, because it was a cut and surgery. not like male.

if u have other cat at home, please separate them. if possible don't let them see each other.

if u cage the spayed female, cover it with towel. let her reduce the stress.

9th november, and not eating something till now, is like starving? did she drink? did u see any urine or stool in the litter?

is she acting ok? or getting tired and tired?

is the stitches ok? good bleeding or dry?

hmm dont "tuam" yet, she is still stress. for now, make sure she don't like and open the stitches and make sure it dry always.
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QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ Nov 13 2008, 12:40 PM)
aik.. sound like she is so STRESS now...

did u try to offer cane food? the Science Plan/whiskies, friskies, snappy tom punya brand? during my cat kembiri they eat this for few days, with alil bit of kibbles.

I brought her back on 11th nov because there's nothing the vet can do to her there. She's very fierce and she wont allow any hands to touch her, except me. The vet told me she ate a little during the 1st day, but i dont think she ate. That's why i brought her home to her normal environment. Started from yesterday evening, i tried to feed her with Hill's Preescription Diet a/d. I mix with water and pump it into her mouth. She managed to swallow a few tubes. But this morning, when i wanted to feed her, she suddenly vomit. Banyak pulak tu. Is it because perut dia masuk angin?

female memang agak culture shock with kembiri, because it was a cut and surgery. not like male.
if u have other cat at home, please separate them. if possible don't let them see each other.

Yes, i have another 2 kittens. But they dont disturbed her at all.. They're using the living area. So, I place Momoy's cage in my bedroom.

if u cage the spayed female, cover it with towel. let her reduce the stress.

Her temperature is a bit higher than normal. And sometimes, she looks like hot. So i cant cover her cage. I switch on a slow fan for her inside my bedroom.

9th november, and not eating something till now, is like starving? did she drink? did u see any urine or stool in the litter?

She didnt drink at all. But yes, she urinate 2-3 times daily. The urine is a bit darker that normal. But no stool at all.. I feed her with glucose water, but she cant swallow it. Everytime i pump water into her mouth, she will act like tercekik. Looked like having problem to swallow the plain water.
She's not using her litterbox i place in her cage. Instead, she peed inside her sleeping tray. Is it because i put a mesh on her litterbox to avoid the sand to attach to her skin? So this morning, i placed a bathmat and her small cushion inside her cage and removed the sleeping tray.


is she acting ok? or getting tired and tired?

I think she's getting tired and tired. I'm so worried icon_question.gif I asked the vet, but the vet said it's normal for spayed female to behave like that until she recover.. She asked me to keep feeding with Hill's a/d. But i think, vomit is a bad sign.... So, do u think it's good to find a new vet before it's too late? I called some vet, but they refused to take Momoy's case since they didnt do the surgery. They asked me to get back to the same vet. I called the same vet this morning. She asked me to bring Momoy to her clinic untuk masuk drip dalam badan dia... maybe this way can stop her from vomit.

is the stitches ok? good bleeding or dry?

The stitches looks ok. No bleeding and it's dry. Except there's some dried iodin. I tried to wipe it with a solution, but everytime the wool touch her skin, she'll cries in pain...

hmm dont "tuam" yet, she is still stress. for now, make sure she don't like and open the stitches and make sure it dry always.

But, she always wet her bottom (because she peed in her sleeping tray) So every evening when i reach home, i'll wipe her with a damp cloth and check her stitches.

Today i'll rush her to the vet again for dripping. Please pray for Momoy, guys..

Elf, i read in somewhere else - "Death occurs from pyometra when the uterus ruptures and the toxic material spills into the abdomen, causing peritonitis. Death can also occur by the infection spreading to the bloodstream, a condition know as sepsis; or from severe dehydration leading to hypovolemic shock," Do u think this is what happen to Momoy? Because the vet told me there was some pus spilled out when she cut the sack.

ELF, i'm panic and  i dont know what to do icon_question.gif ... But i dont want to lose her cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

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my oh my.. i'm so sorry to hear all this nicoty_yne

vomiting after spayed can be normal, and can also be not normal. most of cat including human, after surgery we do feel want to vomit, because of the medicine effect. but continuous vomiting is not a good sign.

not eating for the first day is normally too for female. they will feel alil bit restless. like finding place to rest. and feel something different to their body. Your case, momoy is not eating for such a long time sad.gif

yes some of my cats (female), urinate outside their litter box during after spayed. it may cause because of its hurt to walk, so they just pee at the same place. but thats only happened during the first day. in your case, it is seriously the pee showing pain, which normally happen to cat, they will pee and poo outside litterbox to show that something wrong happen to them.

which vet do u visit anyway??? my vet normally advice me to come back 3 days if there is something go wrong. the reason why other vet do not want to handle momoy because, they don't know what the vet did before. the other vet fault may also become the new vet fault. thats why they want u to bring momoy back to the first vet.

yes spay/neuter can bring death. more to the female, but less to the male. female gonna be in some sort like a big surgery. thus, clean environment is very very important (clean vet). cat that is spay/neuter with no vaccination will also have high risk. why they always ask if your cat has been vaccine before or not? this is because to make sure that your cat is stay up to date with their health. if your cat is vaccine, they know he/she in good condition - that tell them you visited vet for check up. vaccine cat will have stronger body than non vaccine cat.

by going back to the vet is the best solution.

i pray for her health. get well soon!
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QUOTE(mizeily @ Nov 13 2008, 04:36 PM)
oh wow..so serious lah Momoy conditions...

she was spayed when she reached adulthood eh el?
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errkk u mean momoy?

u need to ask nicoty_yne...
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QUOTE(mizeily @ Nov 14 2008, 10:48 AM)
erm..i got these DLH kittens..after bathing them, they became smelly again b4 the end of the day..i dunno how to describe the smell..but not the poo smell lah..do u guys have any recommendation of wat type of syampoo to use for DLH? or can just use any type?
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ahahah they will always be smelly because they lick their fur every hours and days... for sure the shampoo won't stick that long...

if your case is like not last for few days.. then u need the expensive shampoo..

the one cost rm40 and above. i'm using back2basic shampoo with coconut smell..

and then conditioner, get the one almost the same price.. i'm using Espree brand..

it can last more between 1 - 2 weeks.

when u shampoo and conditioner, leave it for like 5 minutes for each. don't pour water right after u brush their fur. let the shampoo and conditioner stay alil bit longer.

p/s some people like to use powder, leave on conditioner for their cats.. but i never try that. maybe u can have a look at this type of fragrance.

p/s make sure it is safe on animal. my cat has no problem with back2basic and espree product.

p/s i always like natural product, like back2basic is using oatmeal.
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QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ Nov 14 2008, 01:47 PM)
I sent Momoy to the same vet (Dr T) who performed the spay at 4pm yesterday. The vet inspected her then told me that she got jaundice. The vet said, during the surgery there was pus inside her horns. The pus spilled a bit and maybe the pus has entered her bloodstream and got into the liver. That's how she got the jaundice. The vet gave a jab, said it is for the liver. She was given 250ml IV fluid, a medicine to stop her from vomit and they force-feed her. They fed her with a bowl of Hills Perscription Diet i/d. We left the vet at 5.30pm.

But at 8.30pm, when i wanted to feed her medicine, she vomit again. So i gave her the anti-vomit medicine, waited for 30 minutes, then fed her antibiotic and painkiller.

1.30 midnite, i feed her with 10ml Hills Persciption Diet a/d and some glukose water. But at the same time, i found out than below her right front leg looked flabby. The other side looked ok, no flabby. I touched that part and pressed a bit, but Momoy didnt show any pain.

This is the photo i snapped. Can u see the flabby part at her front leg?
This morning i found Momoy laying in her litterbox, but i found urine inside her sleeping tray. At 8.00am, i fed her the same diet (a/d) and gave her medicine for the liver (pills and clear liquid). So far she was not vomit, but looked nausea. The flabby part was still there, but not as flabby as last nite. Do u think it is because of the IV fluid? Then why it goes to below of her right front leg? I tried to call the vet, but today is their off-day. I called their emergency number, still cant get them sad.gif Damn...!

I think all of these happen because of my mistake. I never vaccined her before. I wanted to vaccine her when she was 7months old (may 2008), but my previous vet (Dr P) asked me to wait. He gave the contraceptive jab in May 2008, dewormed Momoy in June. I thought i can vaccine her in July, And Momoy showed sickness (vomit, diarrhoea) in July. And since then she was give prescription for entheritis and GI by Dr P, until October. I referred Momoy to Dr T (the new vet) at the end of Oct and that's how we know she got pyometra! And that's why i never had a chance to vaccine her cry.gif

And now she got jaundice and i hope it doesnt slim her chance to survive cry.gif cry.gif

Dr T know Momoy is not vaccined yet before she preformed the spay. But she said she has to do the pyometra removal quickly before it spread and get worse.

I dont know what to do. I've done the best and i just let God decide her fate. But i hope if she has no chance to survive, she wont suffer long sad.gif Please pray for Momoy. Thanx.
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I don’t like when a doctor keep secret of this happened during surgery without telling guardian or family. Like your case.. the vet already know she has pus inside her horns, which need extra more careful to do it. And some more, when the pus spilled they didn’t do anything to at least find ways to stop it before entering the blood system and go direct to liver? Weird.

I’m not sure with the flabby part at her front leg.

Ok now skip the vaccine part. I’m a little bit confuse… pyometra check up is at other vet? And spay is at other vet? Or both at the same vet?

Since she is suspected with pyometra, don’t blame yourself for not vaccine her. The sickness is already there right. Pyometra has nothing to do with vaccine. It is like other sickness. I have the hard feeling that the pyometra has something to do with this spay surgery. Since pyometra itself has something to do with uterus, and spay involve removing the ovaries and uterus. During the process there might be something go wrong here.

To be more specific, pyometra happen because of infection in the wall of uterus.

There are 2 type of pyometra, the open and close.

Open type – the cervix relaxes, releasing a large amount of pus that is often cream, pink or brown.

While close type – a very litter vaginal discharge.

As pus collects in the uterus, the cat become more toxic, vomits, high fever, dehydrates.

Momoy MAYBE has become toxic to herself. So infection grow from one place to another place. MAYBE it arrive in liver and that’s why she has jaundice.

p/s Don’t blame yourself nicoty_yne, like I said earlier, she is already infected by pyometra which has nothing to do with vaccine, but actually spaying earlier. Again don’t blame yourself, you have try your best now… trying to safe momoy. Just let god decide what’s next. You have done your best my friend.

p/s my prayer go to momoy, hope she recover and enjoy life.

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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Nov 14 2008, 02:05 PM)
my sister's cat is sick.
he doesnt have the appetite to eat and not breathing well.
last week he got a fever. already sent him to gov clinic twice. sadly in terengganu i cant find a private vet clinic. sad.gif
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try contact "krynzpeaches" in this forum, maybe she can help with finding vet in terengganu.
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QUOTE(mizeily @ Nov 14 2008, 04:19 PM)
are the back2back and espree brands available in small shops or have to find at pet safari or sumthing? how do u hold ur cat for 5 mins while putting on syampoo and conditioner? wear gloves x? tongue.gif
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its back2basic not back2back tongue.gif im not sure about small petshop.. i got mind from Petsmore. Even pet safari do not have much shampoo. You can try Pets wonderland too.. both petsmore, pets wonderland, pets family PJ, have more product on grooming.

what i meant was, waktu mandi tu, basah kan semua bulu dulu. then letak shampoo. gosok gosok sampai rata masuk kedalam bulu. then biar kan 5 minit - 10 minit. lepas tu baru bilas. and then now sapu kan conditioner sampai rata. again tunggu 5 - 10 minit. baru bilas untuk kali terakhir.

u dont have to wear gloves, u r not dealing with fleas shampoo anyway.
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QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ Nov 14 2008, 04:26 PM)
Momoy's photos.. See the flabby parts at her right front leg?

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she looks ok in the picture. i mean does not look in pain or sick. trust me, i have seen worst condition of cats till you do not want to see. My last cat died in 2007, was like alive but do not look like alive. and her last breath she scream like in pain.

yeah i can see the flabby parts thats where all the body system are. I mean that area, like heart, liver, etc.

did u managed to call your vet?
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QUOTE(socratesman @ Nov 14 2008, 06:16 PM)
Any cat lovers here use a electric mosquitoe racket aka electric bug swatter?

Everytime I press the "ON" button on the racquet, our cat becomes afraid & runs away quickly.  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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errkk they will almost freak out with anything. mine even freak out with remote control car.

anyway, r u playing electric bug swatter with your cats? LOL. hopefully your cat is not dry and burn with that thing. that is so like commit suicide tongue.gif
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QUOTE(naTTan @ Nov 15 2008, 03:47 AM)
Wah Pet Espree same dgn the Pet Esther tuh ker? Grooming dgn tuh cam mahal jer rm80 for long hair cat.

Btw, there is a trader selling orijen cat food 8kg was RM 125, kind of worth it ker?

Elfreakz can we have a list of the current food price in the first page and location? Malas nak tanyer satu2 kedai.
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errk i dont have the current cat food list, maybe someone else got it tongue.gif

eerrkk orijen 8kg or 7kg?? mineis 7kg, tak adapun 8?

my 7kg orijen is RM139 (pet safari, and galaxy petshop both same price)
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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Nov 15 2008, 02:32 PM)
hi El...

I also have a problem like mizely...after bath my gemuk and adik...tak sampai 3 days...dah bau masam...I pun nk try espree brand la..

shampoo price is Rm 40...the conditioner?how much?
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any shampoo pun bagus, but the expensive one ofcourse better lah kan.

the shampoo im using is Bark2Basic. can't remember the price, its about RM40 above..

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Oatmeal Anti-Itch Shampoo is a gentle, natural all-purpose moisturizing shampoo specially formulated for professional groomers. Oatmeal Anti-Itch Shampoo contains natural colloidal oatmeal to soothe and moisturize dry, itchy skin on pets. It produces a rich, thick lather that deep cleans without drying, yet is mild enough to use on pets of all ages. It contains no harsh additives or ingredients that build up on the coat. Oatmeal Anti-Itch Shampoo rinses easily and leaves coats luxurious, healthy, and shiny. pH balanced for pets skin.


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Conditioner i pakai espree about RM39.

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This luxurious conditioner moisturizes and promotes a healthy silky coat with high shine and manageability. Turn your pet into a show ring champion! Directions: Use full strength or dilute up to 24 parts warm water to 1 part conditioner and shake well. Massage into coat of dog or cat, leave in 3 minutes for best results and rinse thoroughly.

Calming Waters Fragrance, Silk Protein Restores High Shine and Luster, For Dogs and Cats

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anyway if u want to see other types go to:

Bark2Basic = http://www.senproco.com/bark2basics/index.html

Espree = http://www.espree.com/index.asp

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Bought both from petsmore, not sure the price decrease or increase. but petsmore do have other good quality brand, but too expensive.. i can only afford Bark2Basics and Espree ehehehe

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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Nov 15 2008, 03:32 PM)
I pun takleh budget besar sgt...coz ank dah ramai...dah mencecah 11 ekor...hehehehe..
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oh my... cepat nye berkembang family tu... eheheh

anyway, u can try other brand, or maybe same brand but different type. i pun nak tau gak macam mana brand lain or types yang lain. kalo semua sama, so tak de product reviewer lah kan eheheh
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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Nov 15 2008, 03:53 PM)
so far u pakai brand tu ...ok?

yela..baru 7 ekor last 2 months...but now...11...hehehe


Added on November 15, 2008, 4:07 pm
el...

shampoo tu ade berape ml ek??
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yeap im using both that brand.

hmm bark2basic 15oz.

Espree conditioner 12 oz. (355ml).

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