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post Nov 1 2008, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(abang brother @ Oct 31 2008, 11:31 PM)
Oh i see.

Different as in? The colour? Yes.
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QUOTE(Mimzy @ Nov 1 2008, 02:15 AM)
thanx for the reply! But i don't think im gonna return her back to the owner!!they wont take care of her!plus,there is a male cat(pasangan dia la),she scared of him!i think thats why she came and living here with us sbb we all akan protect dia bila kucing lain dtg.
lgpun the doc kata the cat selalu lepak kat our hse tu myb sbb die rasa selesa and secure.

ok,so if i just let her stay indoor for now will the fleas gone??
so that i don't need to take her to the vet or bath her ke???
sbb u said ubat bertahan 2-3months kan..
kalau tak i nak mandikan dia esok jgk or bring her to the vet clinic(since weekend vet tutup!)

one more thing,u kata kutu boleh membiak pada carpet and stuff dlm rumah kan,so xde ke solution utk kills all the fleas yg dlm rumah?
my relative is having the same problem,and the doc asked them to use sabun kutu yg utk kucing tu and basuh lantai&carpet dgn sabun tu.will it work?????

another problem is,like i said die ada kena kurap sblm ni.After that die turun berat bdn sgt2 and sekarang kurang mkn..
she's really2 fussy!but i still can tolerate la dgn perkara mcm tu.
Tp die kuat tido la..thats make me so worry!pemals betul,tp nampak mcm ok jee..
doc kata better bg the biscuits one than the can food.

oh ya!i dunno lah if she is a domestic long hair ke apa..
whats the difference??
do u have any website that i can see(pic would be better) the breeds of every cats in the world??
thanks a lot!
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-ok,so if i just let her stay indoor for now will the fleas gone?? = YES FLEA WILL BE GONE IF YOU CONTINUE USING THE FLEA KILLER PRODUCT.

so that i don't need to take her to the vet or bath her ke??? = IF YOU USE THE SPOT ON, YOU DO NOT NEED TO BATH. IF YOU USE THE SPRAY TYPE, YOU NEED TO BATH AFTER 24-48HOURS.

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u kata kutu boleh membiak pada carpet and stuff dlm rumah kan,so xde ke solution utk kills all the fleas yg dlm rumah?my relative is having the same problem,and the doc asked them to use sabun kutu yg utk kucing tu and basuh lantai&carpet dgn sabun tu.will it work????? = THE NUMBER 1 SOLUTION IS "HYGIENE AND CLEAN HOME ENVIRONMENT". ALWAYS VACUUM, ALWAYS MOP YOUR FLOOR. KALAU ADA DUIT LEBIH, BAWA CARPET PERGI DOBI CUCI. NOT ONLY BILA ADA KUTU, BUT WHEN TAK ADA KUTU PUN KENA KERAPAT KEMAS RUMAH. BECAUSE YOU HAVE INDOOR PETS NOW, AND YOU HAVE SMALL CHILDREN KAN.

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do u have any website that i can see(pic would be better) the breeds of every cats in the world?? = YOU GO TO FIRST PAGE OF THIS THREAD, KAT SITU ADA MAKSUD DLH AND DSH..

AS FOR BREED TYPES, YOU CAN MAKE THIS WEBSITE AS REFERENCE LIST OF CATS BREED

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Nak bunuh semua kutu ni ambik masa, because your case ni macam kutu tu dah menyerang manusia. so it takes alil bit more time. sebab kutu ni jenis yang melompat lompat dan bergerak pantas.

the easiest way, if you have sangkar kucing, you sangkar dulu your cat. jangan bagi dia merayau2. sebab merayau ni dia boleh transmit kutu ke tempat lain or ambik kutu dari tempat lain ke tempat lain. like from living room to bed room. vice versa.

if she is in sangkar, put the sangkar away from benda2 seperti karpet. maybe dalam dapur. biasa dapur dia simen and tiles kan. yet must still be indoor. jangan letak sangat kat luar lak.

Spot on yang u guna tu, dia boleh tahan kat badan kucing 2-3 bulan. kalau kita mandi kan kucing pun ubat tu masih kekal dalam badan kucing.

yang spray punya jenis (frontline), you kena spray rata2 pada badan dan bulu kucing (tidak termasuk muka).. lepas tu tunggu 24-48jam. spray bagus untuk kutu yang byk. sbb spray lagi cepat membunuh. spot on biasa guna untuk protection kalo kutu tak byk. kalo u guna spray tu kan, u akan nampak kutu tu mampus dan lari lintang pukang macam di kejar hantu tongue.gif

and then, u kena kerap sikat bulu kucing guna penyikat kutu (ada jual kat petshop). why? u kena sikat telur2 kutu dan kutu2 mati. telur2 tu paling bahaya, sebelum dia membiak menetas, baik u sikat bagi jatuh dari badan kucing.

last skali, selalu selalu lah mandi kan kucing sampai kutu tu habis. mungkin seminggu sekali dengan shampoo kutu.

bila semua dah mati... jangan lak u bagi kucing u main di luar sad.gif sia sia je menghabiskan duit untuk membunuh kutu.
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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Nov 1 2008, 08:59 AM)
Sure can...I've seen so many pics of cats sleeping together with dogs... brows.gif

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QUOTE(ashbutt @ Nov 1 2008, 02:36 PM)
Elf,

nak tanya sket...setahu saya kucing yg mengandung boleh produce susu so bila anak lahir terus boleh menyusu but how come kucing betina member saya pas bersalin jer susu dah kering???
currently all 8 ekor is being nursed by foster mother and bottled fed so do you have any idea why this happend and from ur experience is there any ways ton get the susu back???
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yes normal. some ibu kucing ada yang bermasalah dengan susu. macam manusia juga kot. ada wanita pun bermasalah menyusu kan anak, sampai kena pam ehehe.

ada ibu kucing yang masalah terlebih banyak susu sampai membuat puting menjadi bengkak.

apa apa pun, your problem ni sound like, ibu kucing tak cukup nutrition. what food your friend bagi kat ibu kucing tu? waktu dia mengandung, did your friend feed premium kitten food?

may i know what cat are you dealing with? longhair? short hair? macam mana you tau dia tak ada susu? did u picit the puting?
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QUOTE(ashbutt @ Nov 1 2008, 03:50 PM)
lah elf nie lah kucing betina yg kucing jantan i pie rogol tu...ingat x dulu i seek ur advice on breeding them??? she gave birth to 8 ekor furballz on 27th Oct(deepavali babies)hahahahaha.
she is a persian cat...masa baru lahir tu mmg ada susu but the next day dah xder and my friend mmg picit xpi x kuar so bila i pergi ke rumah dia and i pun picit picit...x kuar gak. the cat looks healty she doent look that she is in pain or what its just that she cant nurse them.
she was given science diet all her life and during the last week of pregnancy my friend tukar tu the puppy's food.


Added on November 1, 2008, 3:51 pm
silap taip...bukan puupys foos but kittens food... doh.gif
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ehehe ok ok kitten food... continue bagi ibu tu kitten food...

anyway long hair cat memang selalu ada masalah. especially the mix mix one... biasa lah, bila dah mix mix tu ada je kecacatan. sbb tu ada risiko bila mix mix kawin kucing ni.

as for long hair, normally before dia beranak, i akan bawa pergi vet check up. vet normally will trim bulu2 kat puting dia, untuk memudahkan anak menyusu. and my vet will check her nipples and check if she produce enough milk.

kalau u still feed the kitten with mother milk, u kena timbang kan kucing tu tiap tiap hari. untuk check increase in weight. mesti increase, no decrease ok!...

if u found decrease in weight, you need to bottle feed them with good pet milk beli kat petshop...

if the kitten weight increase while suckling the mother, then there should be problem...

as for now, u kena perhatikan, u suspek ibu dia kurang susu. so u kena imagine, 8 kitten suckling ibu kurang susu. so u need to weight semua kitten tu and see the different....

good luck bro smile.gif

p/s beli timbang yang murah untuk buat kuih tu je.. yang untuk timbang tepung tu.. kalu dah ada kat rumah boleh gak guna.. nanti bley cuci balik smile.gif

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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Nov 1 2008, 05:11 PM)
Elll...............

I kena tipu dengan vet...teruk punye vet...

RC 4kg kitten kat Petsmore baru Rm80 lbh...die jual kat I dulu 4kg RM110...nasib baik I tak bli kat die lagi...
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oh ye ke... im not sure bout 4kg price.. but i know Royal Canin Kitten 36 (10KG) is RM196...
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QUOTE(ssyy @ Nov 2 2008, 10:56 AM)
my new kitten seems to be not used to me.. how to make it more attached to me? some says stroke it at da chin and head.. is it true? (ive checked in other websites, many gives different opinions..) n is it true kittens r not suitable to free it off cage? i feel kesian looking at it purring at da cage's door..
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you just got your kitten right. so it takes times. cat will scrub themself on you to make you smell like them smile.gif thats how the bonding themself with you.

so u cannot show that you are scare of them. they know if you takut or berani. they know if you give fake love ehehehe.

always call their name is soft tone, not like angry tone eheheh..

if u have people in the house that like to shout, ask them to shut up.

provide as much as toys for her to play. kitten love newspaper.

you and the kitten, must always be together. if u only see her 2 hours a day, then its a hard job.

in some cases kitten is not suitable to be free off cage if they are too hyper. let say your house has so many nice expensive things from china, hong kong, paris, london... ofcourse you dont want to drop all that things right.. so some people prefer to keep it in cage while they off to work.. and create a cat room for them to play.

if u have big huge cage like 3 tiers, then it wont look pity.. but if u have very very small cage, which your kitten cant even move.. then that is so pity.
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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Nov 2 2008, 11:31 AM)
RC 10 kg...tak silap kat Petsmore leh dapat RM180 lbh klu ade membership..

El...kalau I bagi kucing I Science Plan...ok tak??baru jer tukar...
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yea im a member of petsmore too tongue.gif selalu pegi jalan peel punya cawangan smile.gif

saja jalan2 situ. dulu waktu i bagi iams and RC selalu ambik situ. but now no more.. jalan2 lepak2 je smile.gif

yeap science plan seem to be good if you cats like to eat it smile.gif beside, Science Plan is always a vet recommendation smile.gif

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QUOTE(joehan @ Nov 2 2008, 02:56 PM)
my cat's fur is not as beautiful as before .. a bit messy... why this thing happen??? is it bcoz of food ?

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no.1 = Food .. what food you feeding? if the supermarket food, yes that is what you get. try to change to at least premium cat food like royal canin, science plan, proformance, iams, etc.

n0.2 = on heat and stress ... if you cat is not neuter/spay, stress and on heat can drop their fur. stress and on heat cat - when they are horny, they won't groom theirself.. all in their head is sex sex and sex tongue.gif

no.3 = grooming ... frequently groom your cat, which include, brushing/comb their fur everyday to make them nice. bath with good shampoo like from coconut oil (back 2 basic product), and a conditioner will make them look nice. if you have money, bring to grooming shop smile.gif
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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Nov 2 2008, 04:49 PM)
waa...u pun member ek...samala  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif ..but I baru jer...I rasa kan...cam nak gi cekik vet tu..penipu tol...

hmmm....el...I lupa nak tanye..kalau suntik vaccine biasanya ade skali tak untuk FIP/FIV??

kalau kat u nye vet brp RM??
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tak de rasa nya.. biasa vaccine tu utk feline rhinotracheitis, calici, panluekopenia, chlamydia psittaci vaccine

FIP and FIV kebiasaan nya kena check darah dulu.. baru bley suntik dgn ubat khas FIP / FIV. tak bley suntik2 je kalo tak de FIP and FIV.

early last year, si Sky check up for FIP and FIV.. tapi i lupa lah pricing dia. but time tu dia buat kat Ukay Animal Centre, Ulu Klang, Ampang.
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QUOTE(ashbutt @ Nov 3 2008, 12:31 AM)
sad news, 3 kitten died today cry.gif
foster mother(kucing betina rumah jiran) yg my friend gune tu tiba2 x nak menyusu the little kittens dah ptg semalam,so all nite long my friend had to bottle feed them using milkadog fomula. this morning pun dia cuba to see if the mother cat leh nurse xpi still the same...no susu but the nipples are sooo big hmm.gif
by late evening 3 kittens died cry.gif  betulalah apa org tua tua kata, kucing persian nie harap jer lawa tapi byk masalah doh.gif ...lagi baik kucing kmpg kita nie ah...
setakat nie the remaining 5 ekor is looking good...i dnt think they mind suckling from the bottle but all im affraid is that the nutrisi...yalah semua tau yg mothers milk is the best milk...semahal milkadog tapi still not tat good compare to mummy's milk smile.gif
entahlah Elf...wat masa nie berdoalah lebih...hopefully faith will be on my side expecially nie ialah first litter dlm family.
having kitten is not a easy job.

that puting bengkak, kalo tak kempis2 boleh jadi infection payu dara. so better watch out. that milk inside the mother mesti keluar habis, now it sound like blocking nipples. when it blocks, many things can appear especially infection.

my Abang, Adik, and Kakak are all bottle milk because people throw them infront shop in tissue box when they are less than 10 days. they grew up with factory milk tongue.gif yet still healthy. anyway they are kucing kampung, which means healthy. kucing mix mix ni payah, most of the mix mix kurang daya tahan badan. so need more extra care.

you need to check everything on the kitten, tengok jari jari, tengok bentuk badan, kena buka mulut tengok dalam mulut. long time ago, a friend of mine punya DLH give birth to 5 kitten, 3 of them mati, ingat kan mati sebab tak sihat. rupa rupa nya kecacatan... buka mulut and see tiada lelangit, no wonder susu tak masuk perut, all the susu keluar balik via nose. kesian.

most cats yang di mix kan dgn Persian flat face, kena hati hati. potential to produce kucing cacat. i saw some of them hidung senget, gigi ada panjang ada pendek, gigi terabur, sumbing, bibir tak rata etc.

hopefully you manage to handle the kittens and the mother.
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QUOTE(joehan @ Nov 3 2008, 04:16 AM)
thanx bro for the fast reply.

no1: i give my cat iams. planning to change to royal canin but too expensive .. hehe

no2: this might be the reason why. =p ... my friends told me that it is time for my cat to find his mate. but is it true that if we spot black color under the cat's mouth means that they r horny  sweat.gif  ?

no3: will try send my beloved cat for grooming if i have time.
thanx again for the tips!
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Iams should be ok, although i heard most feedback is fur drops.. but all you need to do is frequent grooming. we cannot blame food also, if your cat eat the most expensive food but now grooming will also make the fur drop.

I never hear about black color thing under cats mouth. but i know if it is below the chin its something like blackhead that we have on our face. most female cat will have this.

sign of horny the obvious one is, not eating, not grooming, weight drop, look terrible, look lazy, making loud sound.

sign of a male that is horny is, you check the tail.. one part of it look like oily.. eheh that is the meaning they are horny. be ready, they will spray your house with the male smell! yuck!
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QUOTE(sweetsnoopy99 @ Nov 3 2008, 12:09 PM)
hey my kitten she is almost 6 month and she is eating and drinking and playful,but the problem that she is not skinny but she is small compair to 6 month cat,he is still looks like 3 month kittey and the attitude also,but she is toilet trained already,
all i wanted 2 ask?
is she having grown up problem?
but she don't looks sick?
what shall i do?an advice before i decide 2 take her 2 doctor
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eheheh don't worry, all cats do not grow into the same size. just like us. short, tall, skinny, fat, average smile.gif

if she is healthy then everything is fine.

even they are siblings, the will be in different size.. example like my 3 siblings, the male is big and long in size, while female A is fat and short, and female B is long but slim.
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QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ Nov 3 2008, 12:47 PM)
ELF!!! My 13months old Momoy is pyometra positive.. She was given her 1st contraceptive jab in early May. In the mid of July, she showed some sickness symptoms such as dhearroea (am i spelling this correctly?), vomit and lost appetite. I sent her to our vet. This vet said she probably ate something poisonous. She was given some antibotic and anti-dhearroea.

Her condition wasnt better after a week. So i sent her to the same vet again. The vet gave suspected she was having enterhitis, since there was some brownish discharge from her private part. Thevet told me the dscharge was coming form her anal. She was given jabs for her liver and antibiotics. I asked the vet if her condition was related to that contraceptive jab he gave her, but he denied..

Last week, i went to a new vet (a very young vet) and asked her opinion. After some diagnostic and palpate, the vet told me that my Momoy is pyometra positive cry.gif cry.gif She's going for her pyometra spay on 9 Nov. Please pray for her....
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first of all, im so sorry to hear about Momoy. I hope she will recover from pyometra soon.

I know pyometra sound hurt, because its like bacteria infection internally via the vaginal. and urine are all with bacteria.

my vet said most female cat that did not spay will have potential to get pyometra disease.

spay momoy for her own good. so she don't suffer in pain anymore.

send my warm regard and kiss kiss to your momoy! update us her progress ya smile.gif
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What is Pyometra?

In its simplest terms, pyometra is an infection in the uterus. Most cases of pyometra are much more difficult to manage than a routine infection.

Infection in the lining of the uterus is established as a result of hormonal changes. Following estrus (heat), progesterone levels remain elevated for 8-10 weeks and thicken the lining of the uterus in preparation for pregnancy. If pregnancy does not occur for several estrus cycles, the lining continues to increase in thickness until cysts form within it. The thickened, cystic lining secretes fluids that create an ideal environment in which bacteria can grow. Additionally, high progesterone levels inhibit the ability of the muscles in the wall of the uterus to contract.

The use of progesterone-based drugs can do this. Estrogen will increase the effects of progesterone on the uterus. Drugs containing both hormones are used to treat certain conditions of the reproductive system. Spaying your female cat will prevent this disease.

How do bacteria get into the uterus?

The cervix is the gateway to the uterus. It remains tightly closed except during estrus. When it is open, bacteria that are normally found in the vagina can enter the uterus rather easily. If the uterus is normal, the environment is adverse to bacterial survival; when the uterine wall is thickened and cystic, perfect conditions exist for bacterial growth. When these abnormal conditions exist, the muscles of the uterus cannot contract properly. This means that bacteria that enter the uterus cannot be expelled.

Pyometra may occur in young to middle-aged cats; it is most common in older cats. After many years of estrus cycles without pregnancy, the uterine wall undergoes the changes that promote this disease.

The typical time for pyometra to occur is about 1-2 months following estrus.

click here to read more about pyometra

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QUOTE(ezaleina @ Nov 3 2008, 08:15 PM)
hai el...

long time ago...I pun ade 1 kitten yg takde lelangit ...n at the end she died... cry.gif
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yea very low percentage of this kitten to grow.. the most is normally 3 days.

depends on how big is the hole, if it is sumbing, vet can do surgery on it, but they need to wait till the kitten grow dulu. while growing the kitten will be feed by using tube/hos from mouth direct to the stomach. sound painful right sad.gif even human yang masuk tube dari hidung, kerongkong, mulut > dah meraung raung kesakitan. apa kan makhluk allah sekecil kitten sad.gif

but then, still very less of this kitten stay alive in the vets aswell..
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QUOTE(Mimzy @ Nov 6 2008, 03:25 AM)
elfreakz, and all buddies!this is my BoBo! smile.gif
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die ni kan gelap betul..
susah nk tangkap gambar.. blush.gif
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OH MY! look at that eyes!!! so attractive!! geraammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

what color is that black white? or blue(kelabu) white?

so nice eh!!!
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QUOTE(nicoty_yne @ Nov 6 2008, 09:19 AM)
Thanx ELF and ASH. Momoy was scheduled to be spay on this Sunday, 9 NOV .. But the vet said the chances is 50-50, depends on her pyometra seriousness.. Wll keep u guys update. Maybe i can ask the vet's assistant to snap snap photo of the surgery to publish here. Please pray for MOmoy.  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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at least there's a good news, because the chances is still 50-50. i will pray for your cat...

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QUOTE(jep @ Nov 6 2008, 03:31 PM)
My 4 months old cat has been acting weirdly these past few weeks..he litters everywhere (1-2 times at one period at different places first the feces is a bit hard but the second one is softer) although i provided the litter box...and funnily sometimes he went into the box but his @ss is outside the box...and he's been vomiting here and there which looks like his dropping (greenish)..planned to go to the vet today.. :-(
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soft poop is not a good sign

vomiting with green green thinggy is not a good sign

have you ever deworm your cat anyway?

vet is the only solution.

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