Gun sway is a..... bug?

Yeah I was shocked to see that too.

edit - To everyone who thinks they know more about promod. Think again. Read everything. Every sentence, Every word. (Page 10, Post #200) & (Page 1, Post #1 Re-edited)

This post has been edited by t3quila: Oct 23 2008, 08:37 AM

for your info, i been thru that interview before. and i know what im talking about. like i said, nothing to be cocky about t3quila. what do u know about t3quila rather than repeatedly saying its the standard. what else? raf1 created it to standardize rules, n he also mentioned it still need adjustment and feed back.

u just wan2 listen to what u wan2 listen, y not really try to understand the whole interview? it is not almighty mod, it existed only because pam4 was abandoned by the creator. yes it has lots of improvements, but he also stated, he made this mod this way to attract more pro gamers to their familiar ground. so what does tat means? since u r being so cocky assuming u know everything n know more than any 1 of us idiots here, point out y promod is better?

anyway, do pro play with granade indicator on? promod has made cod4 in inflexibility, for example, guns. after the mod, what kind of choice u got? he might as well just leave ak74u, ak47, m40, deagle untouch while locking up all the rest. is that how pro play? is tat called skill? gun sway is a bug my ass. play cs for too long is it? he even enlarged hit box for sniper to the extend of ridiculously big!

whatever it is, im out of this discussion. t3quila, u just talk whatever u want, flame or insult any1 stand in ur way. like i said, if u already have pre perceived result, y even bother to start a poll. regarding this question, u din even answered.

cheers! n luftwacko, good game that night! sorry to say 1 of our regular have to leave early, replaced by another member that did not know our new plan, thats y after scrim our team had discussion at sedap. anything just pm me.

"The mod is being designed specifically for two upcoming summer LAN's to use. I am using the majority opinion of the players in those LAN's to make it.”

Same reason why we hold meetings. I have pretty much the same views as raf1 in terms of the community and competitive play. However, you must understand the difference between the EU community and ours.

1. EU communities are online server based communities, where as the cyber games in MY are usually LAN based. Online based tournaments in Malaysia are 1:60 against LAN Tournaments.
2. EU communities are multi-national and even so, are still disjunctioned and separated. What they have there, we have here. Same problems, different places, different sources. However, unlike them, we don't have modders. If i were to eventually use the mod, i'd need to understand how it works. We can't wait for them to help us when we need to run a tournament or league, i highly doubt they even know we exist.
3. Most of the players that complain about anything cannot specifically fix those problems. Even if we DO switch to Promod, who will be there to control its use? Mods dont run by themselves, unless you know whats in it specifically, changing any settings to fit your needs (training, tournaments, online/offline play) will be a challenge. Same goes to EU players, they all go to one person, there, its raf1.
4. EU players are more advanced and competitive simply because of their infrastructure. Gaming is a profession there, unlike ours which will still need a few years before it completely matures. Teams find it hard to survive monetarily here.

The gunsway bug he was referring to was fixed in 1.3 if im not mistaken along with the lean bug. Many of the players here started COD4 only at 1.5. Given those arguments, they were unnecessary information to local players.
However i do notice the kinks in the sway in PAM4.

I agree that PAM4 is beginning to get outdated, but you cannot assume that we wont change. What we're using is working for the community, so long as they community wants it. As it grows larger, more changes will be done.

Switching to promod now will kill the casual to amatuer players. Which means, you would probably see a 90% loss in the number of teams with other FPS games coming out soon, especially when they dislike the changes to the game.

What i dont understand about raf1's arguments about weapons and perks is that, he would have known that instead of removing Deep Impact, he could have made the game more accurate by changing the values of penetration. He perhaps overlooked the significance of perks to growing the community. By doing so, he hampered the games growth in EU. Simply removing the perk makes it easier for him as a programmer, but how often does a programmer understand user requirements? These changes require monitoring, not by 1 individual, not by the community but by a neutral organization dedicated to maintaining competitive gaming and balance for the good of both organizers and players. We're working on that, so you dont have to really worry about those things.

From the looks of things, we are going the right direction; but we have to take our time doing things, we need to think about the steps we take. Currently, ESPGL is the first step to where EU teams are. You need a league and organization dedicated to maintaining competitive gaming, while companies like New Era can focus on promoting the game to newer players. This way, you have a continous growth while maintaining a constant base of players. Currently, everything to do with COD4 is being done by New Era, which stretches their resources and manpower. (not like their complaining yet.. but still)

No.... Come back... I need you~

i voted for pam4...it's better

dude dont say like ur gay -.-" im not needed in the discussion

I have never meant to insult you only sia.. You think I like being flamed? Your the one more aggro than me lar.. Nvm I bare with it first. If this is the punishment I have to take so be it.

Guys, if you want to know more about Promod, I think you should download it (or if you already have it, then) and go to promod_release3_final.iwd file to analyse the changes. (to open the .iwd file, rename the extention to .zip/.rar)