if there is an option calls mix and match i would vote, but it seems i'll need to null my vote. all i can say is, majority doesnt mean they r correct/sane, it just majority's thought.

COD4's game play gives more flexibility to the player, n yet makes it more human like/realistic compares to other fps. play a game competitively doesnt mean u have to take out the core of the game, which is for me flexibility and realistic weapon stats. tho usually i play malaysian rule set(which is more of an overall strategic package rather than gun n jump n team work).

as for lmg wall spamming, i think its also a strategic play, the lmg player doesnt have to see the target to shoot it, in team play, u have other team player, when they spotted enemy behind wall but he/she cant shoot it, he/she still can coordinate the target for lmg to take the enemy behind the wall thru wall spamming, its team work! isnt tat all you guys talking about? or perhaps really, r too shallow? rather than making the game to play by your rules, y not make rules tat let us play the game-COD4.

dont use the world "international" n pretend u r the best, nothing is perfect! rather than follow, y not contribute to international cod4 community? innovate is a much better action rather than following it without question. rules can be changed, mix n match them rather than deny what others has built up.

before u said those words like malaysian arent following rules so we are weak, u should start by respecting what we have done so far! when u got flamed by others all u did was whining n crapping, makes u no different from ppl u was crapping at!

ok, i know what im going to say will get flamed, but i still need to voice out before i finish my comment.

something comes to my mind regarding pro gamers, since u guys with such greatness, i believe our small country malaysia's rule set shouldnt be a problem since u guys played "international" rule set? just because something doesnt go the way u thought it should be, so u set rules to limit it, rather than adept to it. n so i do not agree with "just wanna point out ur esp motto i think, play hard, go pro. firstly, it is a fact this is the wrong country to be born in to go pro gaming. therefore, the only way to pro gaming is international. if international uses Promod, supermod, kokmod, any modes other then PAM4, basically you'll be fcked, aye? you wanna go pro, follow the rules set by countries with pro gamers, no?"since they r pro, y go to such a length to limit game play? malaysian rule set still need adjustment, but it doesnt mean it sucks, ppl put in time n effort to make it work!

so where is the creativity in creating dynamic team play? since u guys put team play in such high priority. if lmg is to be banned, it just shows organizer doesnt value team play as much as their mouth says. lmg is there with all those 100 bullets to help team mates to perform their work, lmg's main role is as suppressive fire, n fire power to take out targets that other guys cant do tat efficiently, their teammates r their eyes n ears. if talking about balancing, weapon sway is a must have. if sway is reduced or taken away, y not just allow single weapon type in each classes? different weapon sways differently, thats the balance play! u cant take out chances n say its for balance purpose. it just makes it unbalance when some1 carry an smg can shoot as far as assault riffles n with same accuracy...if u cant aim well because of weapon sway, please train yourself! its not pro gamer, its pro whiner to me...

this is not science class, v dont need to take out all variable just to get a clear result, to make a game balance need a bigger picture, which means sit down n discuss! not denying other ppl's opinion! if u wan2 be pro n do things in pro manner, do things maturely..at least

thanks

the point is, PAM need more focus n multitasking than so called "international" rule set! cant u get it? if u cant even adapt to those kind of environment, u arent pro at all! what? sounds like whining kids to me, complaining tis n tat makes things unbalance...more like u r actually saying:"o i suck, y all this thing make it so hard 1? aiya just ban them la, then i'll win"...losers!

PAM limit things, but not to the extend of spoiling the core of the game! which is flexibility of strategy n realistic weapon stats! y downgrade it with a CS mod? Rules r for suckers to follow! especially those that dont even ask why he/she needs to follow it, just follow...LAME! if u cant take out airsupport like heli, u just failed miserably in team play! n sending in air strike isnt child's play! u need to be a good coordinator to make a good air strike kill! u shouldnt just send in 3 planes just to kill 1 ******* dont u?

good 1! din know SG-ian lack sense of humor!

HAHA so WHAT else SG have?

anyway, marvin, do u get paid? i assume the answer is no? r u pro? Thats all for my question, answer it yourself

in my previous comments also stated

so read my comment in page 3 before any further discussion regarding what i said

since u have your decision on which to choose beforehand, y even bother posting a poll? so whats the point if u cant even see other ppl's view? which is more disgusting? cant listen to others so asking for help? u just cant stop yapping?

its really waste of time for further discussion n its useless to continue this poll when u already have your definite answer, isnt it? forum is for ppl to share opinion, n u arent doing it! rather than discussing, u just want others to use promod. as i said, things need improvement, i dont see following 1 rules without further development is a good mod, simple as that! there r goods in both mods, but thats just it!

give us the definition of competitive play since u talk like u know it. what u said in here, doesnt reflect your topic title. its about competitive mod of choice, but now its like u r saying pam isnt the standard, so screw it. y put up a poll n waste ppl's time reading thru 5 pages of comments when u discriminate other mod?

guys agree?

1 thing is for sure tho, pam4 is kind of old n the creator actually abandoned it. but promod, MUST have sway, they can return the sniper scope to normal mode.

yes there r good/improvements in promod, u say say its for skill play, but! this is a big but tho, its created to cater other gamers to play cod4, which 1 of the creator stated in his interview sounds kind of bias. n many do feels its more like css reskined/engine update to modern warfare...i really wont mind playing any of these mods, as long as they keep it as cod4, n not change it to be another cs just to cater to more players from other fps!

but 1 thing is for sure, mix n match both ruleset to cater to participant of upcoming tourney 1st, during the postmortem we'll c how is participant's feedback. ofcause, airstrike n heli is out of question, too little player in 1 game makes it overpowered unless kill requirement is increased.

thats all, read my comment before flame this time!

i tot mp5 mostly used with steady aim tim, hmm looks like im a noob wor

t3quila, perks 3 with SA helps smg's lower damage in promod...promod lowered smg's damage...if u take out steady aim, u might as well just take out smg list -.-" so now u call tat fair game? ppl choose smg willing to sacrifice power for movements, n yet perks 3 is disabled? c'mon!

anyway, i use 74u, not mp5 hehehehe with bando+sp+sa, thats a very good run n gun shit there! i wouldnt trade sa with ec! n if ppl said DS is over powered, i dont really agree...ppl trade speed n accuracy for silent killing, which ghost build r to counter snipers...when u take out ghost, u basically offset the balance as sniper is harder to kill now without ghost working in the background

we know u can be rich ass t3quila, i played n own the game since it released, being cocky doesnt lead u to pro. the creator of promod also admited, its not final for the ruleset, they still need input. y u just shove it up ur ass like its godsent when creator also not sure about it?

if u wan2 play fair, come to selangor, v'll wait for u. v'll get a cc so every1's pc will be same its not hard to setup promod server in lan situation anyway.

when ppl dont talk much doesnt means he/she dont know anything, those tat talk overly crappy usually will make mistake by thinking his knowledge is load more than others.

cheers! we'll be waiting

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Added on October 21, 2008, 12:52 pmo is it?

This post has been edited by fastcx: Oct 21 2008, 12:52 PM

tonight will not be appropriate scim with another team luftwacko remember to be there with your team tonight!

o n its working hour now, do u expect every1 is jobless like u? ofcause there is silent time. dont worry about my system, its well enough for high detail, what's sucks is streamyx

for your info, i been thru that interview before. and i know what im talking about. like i said, nothing to be cocky about t3quila. what do u know about t3quila rather than repeatedly saying its the standard. what else? raf1 created it to standardize rules, n he also mentioned it still need adjustment and feed back.

u just wan2 listen to what u wan2 listen, y not really try to understand the whole interview? it is not almighty mod, it existed only because pam4 was abandoned by the creator. yes it has lots of improvements, but he also stated, he made this mod this way to attract more pro gamers to their familiar ground. so what does tat means? since u r being so cocky assuming u know everything n know more than any 1 of us idiots here, point out y promod is better?

anyway, do pro play with granade indicator on? promod has made cod4 in inflexibility, for example, guns. after the mod, what kind of choice u got? he might as well just leave ak74u, ak47, m40, deagle untouch while locking up all the rest. is that how pro play? is tat called skill? gun sway is a bug my ass. play cs for too long is it? he even enlarged hit box for sniper to the extend of ridiculously big!

whatever it is, im out of this discussion. t3quila, u just talk whatever u want, flame or insult any1 stand in ur way. like i said, if u already have pre perceived result, y even bother to start a poll. regarding this question, u din even answered.

cheers! n luftwacko, good game that night! sorry to say 1 of our regular have to leave early, replaced by another member that did not know our new plan, thats y after scrim our team had discussion at sedap. anything just pm me.

dude dont say like ur gay -.-" im not needed in the discussion