I see that there are many people who are pressing their ideologies on her. Some very liberal, some conservative.

It's up to her to decide, really. If she doesn't want it, then so be it. If she wants it, then go ahead. There's nothing to crack your skull about.

Maybe I should try it too since you mention it's good

i wan to try with mochi too

Her name is Judy I suppose

Jz reject him if u feel uneasy wen he touches u. If 1 day he dump u coz he cant get wat he want...ask him to buzz off. No need to pity him or wat. He need ur body to satisfied his needs.

Love ur self,k....tcare

"Isnt gonna End wit Lust or End wit Love"

trust ur instinct ...

if u felt like he is not your future husband

or felt like he just wan sex with u.

then just reject him OR testing his patient for saying NO.

just say no, don't feel pressured because he sweet mouthing about ways to avoid pregnancy. If you really want a peace of mind, go for abstinence.

Just abstain if you are not ready. Whats the point in giving in to pressure?
If he loves u , he will wait for u.

u would be shock wat it means when u said ur bf need onli sex
date rape is kinda common nowdays if u know wat i mean

I can easily turn it around and say if she loves him, she won't reject his advances.

why wanna worry bout this thing neh? it will happen when it happens..like love..dont fan just go with the flow...when u wanna have sex then u have sex when you dont then dont,.so simple..

if you're a virgin.., then one day u also will burst ur bubble..and it will happen just like tht..better dont plan..if u plan it will feel awkward..and potong stim punya macam..but do have a condom with you always

~enjoy your sex life yah TS..~

Yes, so when's our next appointment?

Why do you need to set a dateline la? You think you're promising to buy him a car is it?

Woman, this is something that once you lose you can NEVER EVER get it back.

I don't understand why you need to have sex in a b/g relationship. Just because its so common already?

You have bastards that go around treating girls very very nice until they have sex, then they start being real bastards and then break off. Their agenda is only to sleep with as many virgins as they can get.

And still girls are stupid enough to give it to them.

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Added on October 23, 2008, 8:11 pmThe guy has nothing to lose.

The girl has everything to lose.

She loves him which is why she's keeping herself a virgin - otherwise, whats going to be so blardy special on the wedding night?

Your line of argument is typical of buayas la. Try and con the girls into thinking that if they dont give in, it means they dont love the bf.

Perhaps girls should carry around a legally binding pre-sex agreement. Sign first - you try it, you marry it.

This post has been edited by Diazepam: Oct 23 2008, 08:11 PM

actually you can, there are plastic surgeries that specifically well do that and also you dont need to put it in to be a non virgin. hymens of females break easily to even not breaking at all so unless your partner is really old school and never lernt much about sex then ya he might get angry at it but if not, well then its not a reasonable way to see if someone is a virgin or not. the best and easiest way is through the partners actions, if they are experienced their body will show a measure of sexual know how to stimulate the situation and you dont need intercourse to know this.

the thing that most of you anti-pre martial sex people seem to forget or not know would be theres nothing to lose in both parties and this depends on who you marry in the future. for example if you get a bf or gf thats very sexually active the so called marriage night of magic will be very disappointing for the experienced party, or somehow you manage to get someone that still is a virgin.

another thing i have to comment, sex is a skill and the first night will not be magical. there are heaps of statistics that show men actually have low stamina during the first time and it would be hurtful for both sides due to the lack of skill, awkwardness and so on, its not going to be hollywood wonderful sex or that well you get a chance to burst the bubble. so i can tell you know based on stats your first night is going to suck, unless of course your bf is skilled which his night will be disappointing and honestly he would have to love you damn much to actually tahan that long.

sex also acts as a filter, did you know you cna know abotu your partners body through sex? knowing how he performs sexually, foreplay are all there to test the physical body for defects to ensure better breeding. im sure you wont want to wait eons untill you get married then discover that your hubby suffers from ED.

last but not least, yes it does apply the other way. rejecting sex to your partner can frustrate him/her, he has all the right to dump you cause basically you are not appealing his needs as a partner. basically you suck at being a gf

do you even know all these before going all gung ho anti prematial sex? i dont mind you going hey i save it till the marriage day, but what you post seems to lack even basic sexual education.

This post has been edited by +3kk!: Oct 23 2008, 09:23 PM

u haf to thrust him and he haf to thrust u...tell him give each other 1 month or so then if ready can haf sex...let relationship develop more feeling first then sex very fun

What a load of crap.

In the first place, you lack even basic comprehension on what my post was about.

Your post is addressing something that I am not even talking about.

This post has been edited by Diazepam: Oct 23 2008, 10:04 PM

The question of virginity is an ideology, a state of mind. Your idea of what is right and wrong does not apply to every single person on the face of the earth. It's called moral relativism.

i think i should give simple well question and answer methods, helps your limited undestanding capabilities

actually you can, there are plastic surgeries that specifically well do that and also you dont need to put it in to be a non virgin. hymens of females break easily to even not breaking at all so unless your partner is really old school and never lernt much about sex then ya he might get angry at it but if not, well then its not a reasonable way to see if someone is a virgin or not. the best and easiest way is through the partners actions, if they are experienced their body will show a measure of sexual know how to stimulate the situation and you dont need intercourse to know this.

issue on virginity, and what to have back. well at most times people argue interms of the hymen. so i followed tha argument, there are a lot of degrees of virginity you know i cant cover all.



sex also acts as a filter, did you know you cna know abotu your partners body through sex? knowing how he performs sexually, foreplay are all there to test the physical body for defects to ensure better breeding. im sure you wont want to wait eons untill you get married then discover that your hubby suffers from ED.

perhaps i should change the terms to simple you lose that might help you to understand, but on a summary

sexually active partner + virgin = sexually active partner lose

virgin + virgin = both dont lose

the thing that most of you anti-pre martial sex people seem to forget or not know would be theres nothing to lose in both parties and this depends on who you marry in the future. for example if you get a bf or gf thats very sexually active the so called marriage night of magic will be very disappointing for the experienced party, or somehow you manage to get someone that still is a virgin.

on answering wedding night specials, and giving in.

another thing i have to comment, sex is a skill and the first night will not be magical. there are heaps of statistics that show men actually have low stamina during the first time and it would be hurtful for both sides due to the lack of skill, awkwardness and so on, its not going to be hollywood wonderful sex or that well you get a chance to burst the bubble. so i can tell you know based on stats your first night is going to suck, unless of course your bf is skilled which his night will be disappointing and honestly he would have to love you damn much to actually tahan that long.

last but not least, yes it does apply the other way. rejecting sex to your partner can frustrate him/her, he has all the right to dump you cause basically you are not appealing his needs as a partner. basically you suck at being a gf

on the others............
i didnt touch these two because well, its to general you precieve that every couple the guy that asks for sex and dumps the female. this is not always the case, there are couples that well are of the otherwisse. i know one couple where the guy dumped the female cause she wanted too much sex, theres nothing much to argue upon here cause i dont want to waste time on your generalisation.

also not all girls and guys follow the conservertive strain of thought as you do, thus the girls are stupid and legal binding agreements are pointless to debate upon. i dont question your moral and well values towards virginity but instead provide you a picture of what sex provies and what it actually is around the world. i did mention however that i dont mind you being all wanting virginity, but please understand sex before shooting wildly on things like "magic night" and which side loses. you'd understand what i mean when you really get sex.

This post has been edited by +3kk!: Oct 23 2008, 11:19 PM

now now now....dont argue..we must learn to lvoe one another now!
and for the last time

It's JUST SEX!!! just make sure u do it safely..no harm can b done..as a matter of fact sex is good for your health.

Jumping quickly to the point without 1st threading the road was a bad idea.

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This post has been edited by ChaosXP: Oct 24 2008, 02:25 AM