All About Harddisk Thread V2, Discussion for Good Harddisk
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 Oct 10 2008, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Oct 10 2008, 01:43 AM) i have a problem here.. im using a sata 2 maxtor 160 Gb HDD... it will sound like restarting itself when the comp is running every few minutes but no error happen... this happen after i upgraded to Vista... windows xp wont have this problem... can anyone help? thanks that hdd u use for storage or OS ? |
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Oct 10 2008, 12:43 PM
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maxtor death zone is very much faster than other brands
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Oct 10 2008, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(Jcsy @ Oct 10 2008, 01:43 PM) maxtor death zone is very much faster than other brands ya meh ?? my maxtor hdd already more then 5 year liao but nvm broken b4 . |
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Oct 10 2008, 01:59 PM
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Hi guys, hope to get some advice here. I'm thinking of buying a 3.5" external HDD for storage purpose.
Is it a good time to buy right now? Any difference between internal HDD + casing combo and originally external products (such as WD MyBook)? Does it require AC power supply or is USB enough? And since I'm going for storage purpose, cache size doesn't matter, right? WD or SeaGate or others? Or doesn't matter?  Thanks a lot guys  |
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Oct 10 2008, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(cscheat @ Oct 10 2008, 09:04 AM) that hdd u use for storage or OS ? the HDD i use as the main OS...QUOTE(Jcsy @ Oct 10 2008, 12:43 PM) maxtor death zone is very much faster than other brands dead is unlikely to happen as i dual boot this HDD with XP and vista... the weird HDD restarting only happen in Vista but not in XP... |
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Oct 10 2008, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Oct 10 2008, 12:43 AM) i have a problem here.. im using a sata 2 maxtor 160 Gb HDD... it will sound like restarting itself when the comp is running every few minutes but no error happen... this happen after i upgraded to Vista... windows xp wont have this problem... can anyone help? thanks Similiar to what I had, I changed in the power management to not turn off idling HDD. Can hear the hdd like being turned off when the OS is still working right? |
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Oct 10 2008, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(linkinpark @ Oct 9 2008, 09:58 PM) 1.5TB also not yet arrive here lulz...4 me, 1TB > 1TB is not an upgrade at all  U wait for 2TB  . I rather buy 2x1TB   its just like buying another 3870 when i ardy have 3870 when 1TB > 2TB then only cunted ma |
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Oct 10 2008, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Oct 9 2008, 06:37 PM) wargh.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAIDi really2 dont understand raid0...! drooling reading urs comment bout raid0.... For those who are too lazy, here are the most commonly used RAIDs, straight from wiki. There are other raid modes:- QUOTE * RAID 0 (striped disks) distributes data across several disks in a way that gives improved speed and full capacity, but all data on all disks will be lost if any one disk fails. Meh.* RAID 1 (mirrored disks) could be described as a backup solution, using two (possibly more) disks that each store the same data so that data is not lost as long as one disk survives. Total capacity of the array is just the capacity of a single disk. The failure of one drive, in the event of a hardware or software malfunction, does not increase the chance of a failure nor decrease the reliability of the remaining drives (second, third, etc). * RAID 5 (striped disks with parity) combines three or more disks in a way that protects data against loss of any one disk; the storage capacity of the array is reduced by one disk. * RAID 6 (less common) can recover from the loss of two disks. * RAID 10 (or 1+0) uses both striping and mirroring. |
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Oct 10 2008, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy.SoT.Gila @ Oct 10 2008, 01:59 PM) Hi guys, hope to get some advice here. I'm thinking of buying a 3.5" external HDD for storage purpose. Well, all 3.5" external HDD would require external AC Power Supply. Is it a good time to buy right now? Any difference between internal HDD + casing combo and originally external products (such as WD MyBook)? Does it require AC power supply or is USB enough? And since I'm going for storage purpose, cache size doesn't matter, right? WD or SeaGate or others? Or doesn't matter? Thanks a lot guys Personally for me, i would rather spend my money on getting one External HDD instead of internal + casing combo. I have tried one with casing before and getting a casing that is good would almost cost as much, if not more than an external HDD. |
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Oct 10 2008, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(akachester @ Oct 10 2008, 07:41 PM) Well, all 3.5" external HDD would require external AC Power Supply. Thanks for the input. How about the cache size? Does it matter if it's used for storage? Any idea what are the specs of WD MyBook? I can't seem to find it.Personally for me, i would rather spend my money on getting one External HDD instead of internal + casing combo. I have tried one with casing before and getting a casing that is good would almost cost as much, if not more than an external HDD. Now I'm thinking what size to get |
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Oct 10 2008, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE(Crazy.SoT.Gila @ Oct 10 2008, 08:13 PM) Thanks for the input. How about the cache size? Does it matter if it's used for storage? Any idea what are the specs of WD MyBook? I can't seem to find it. Well, i guess the MyBook is actually the exact same thing with the internal 3.5" WD 1TB HDD. Just that it comes together with a nice case and maybe some cooling fins inside the case itself. So basically, its the exact same HDD, no matter you are getting the internal HDD + a nice external case or the WD MyBook. This is on the 1TB HDD though. Not sure whether the other sizes are exactly the same or not.Now I'm thinking what size to get |
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Oct 10 2008, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE(akachester @ Oct 10 2008, 08:27 PM) Well, i guess the MyBook is actually the exact same thing with the internal 3.5" WD 1TB HDD. Just that it comes together with a nice case and maybe some cooling fins inside the case itself. So basically, its the exact same HDD, no matter you are getting the internal HDD + a nice external case or the WD MyBook. This is on the 1TB HDD though. Not sure whether the other sizes are exactly the same or not. Ah, I see. Thanks  |
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Oct 10 2008, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Oct 9 2008, 06:11 PM) i used to..... Thanks a lot for your experience input Bro mADmAN to compare... single WD250gb vs 2xseagate 320gb RAID-0 alot of difference... loading times are significantly faster... but sadly one of the 320GBs died on me (few months only somemore)...lucky i managed to image my windows into a new HDD... which is the WD640gb raid0 vs wd 640gb....raid0 faster...but not by much...the wd640gb is damn good...performance on par with ur 7200.11 so imagine how fast ur 7200.11 on raid0  only problem with raid0....HDDs tend to die sooner  Well, I read that somehow RAID-0 improve our performance, but the performance is only significantly noticeable on NFS (Network File System) and in some cases it could actually degrade the performance on us as normal user. It's almost similar like the case for AHCI (Advanced Host Controller Interface) and NCQ (Native Command Queuing). So I was wondering how fast we can really benefit from it in our normal daily usage? HDD tends to die sooner? Aiks... |
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Oct 10 2008, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 10 2008, 09:16 PM) Thanks a lot for your experience input Bro mADmAN RAID-0 is like multithreading in processors. Say you have 4 hard disks, you RAID-0 them. You split the workload to the 4 hard disks and each hard disk keeps 1/4 part of the data(not necessarily, try raid-0 different sizes of hdd). Since you split the workload, you would get up to 4 times the performance. This is all handled by the RAID-0 processing chip. Fake RAID-0 requires the processor to handle the RAID, which is why there are performance degradation.Well, I read that somehow RAID-0 improve our performance, but the performance is only significantly noticeable on NFS (Network File System) and in some cases it could actually degrade the performance on us as normal user. It's almost similar like the case for AHCI (Advanced Host Controller Interface) and NCQ (Native Command Queuing). So I was wondering how fast we can really benefit from it in our normal daily usage? HDD tends to die sooner? Aiks... My explanation is getting out of hand. What you need to know is, 2 hard disk raid-0 is twice as fast as 1 hard disk, 3 hard disk raid-0 is 3 times as fast as 1 hard disk, etc etc etc etc. |
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Oct 10 2008, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 10 2008, 05:00 PM) Similiar to what I had, I changed in the power management to not turn off idling HDD. Can hear the hdd like being turned off when the OS is still working right? ya ya!! thats my situation... how to fix that? its anoying to hear the sound...  |
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Oct 11 2008, 02:08 PM
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just bought 1unit 3.5" 160gb seagate hdd & 2unit 2.5" 160gb wd hdd. hope they dun fail on me again.
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Oct 11 2008, 03:01 PM
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im actually looking for My Book Essential Edition, but i just cant find any 640GB or 750GB 1.....shops just got 500GB and 1TB oni....
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Oct 11 2008, 04:11 PM
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Anyone know how is the performance and which one will last longest if compare between seagate 750gb 32mb with WD cavier green 16mb 640gb. Which one is more realiable?
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Oct 11 2008, 05:32 PM
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well..cant compare those two based on pricewise...
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Oct 11 2008, 11:22 PM
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What is the maximum data transfer using 2 HDD without any CRC error,corrupt or heat problem?
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