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 All About Badminton Equipment v2, Racket, Shoes, Grip, String, Cocks

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Fantasia
post Sep 20 2010, 11:03 AM

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haha, i'm a very aggressive player but my skill level doesnt allow me to play in aggressive style. not going to learn smash until i master my backhand clear
alan kc
post Sep 20 2010, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Sep 19 2010, 11:01 PM)
yupe. i can place shots better with 28lbs
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haha...and also feel the sound so solid like national player...hahaha..
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post Sep 20 2010, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Sep 20 2010, 12:19 AM)
i believe BG6 is more durable than BG66 while BG66 can produce more power.
i have read some of u giving info about string tension. for those who still dont understand, i will like u to caring out this simple experiment.
1. get a rubber band.
2. then u pull the rubber band til cresent shape. and record the X as well as the strength needed to pull it to Xcm
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3. then move the pulled rubber band near ur skin and then release ur finger so that the rubber band will strike u. this illustrate low tension
4. use the same rubber band, now u stretch the rubber band longer to illutrate high tension. repeat 1 to 3.
5. now u compare which 1 is more pain as well as the strength require to pull the rubber band to Xcm
hopefully this help
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your example seem like didn't hit the point, we are talking about difference rubber band now, rubber band A is 24lbs rubber band B is 28lbs, if you use N strength to pull the rubber band A to reach X, you need N+M strength to pull the rubber band B to reach X, or with N strength only you can pull the rubber band B to reach X-Y distance only.

smash power not depends on X only; a racket B 28lbs string with X = 1.8cm only could be more powerful then a racket A 24lbs string racket with X = 2.0cm, if racket B can get X = 2.0cm also then sure a lot more powerful then racket A.

indeed your example is more suitable to describe shaft stiffness, if use N strength to band the racket shaft, the smaller the X value mean the stiffer the shaft; e.g : racket A modal 1, X = 1.0cm, stiff; racket A modal 2, X = 1.5cm, mid-stiff, racket A modal C, X = 2.0cm, flex. . .

This post has been edited by Omage007: Sep 20 2010, 11:58 AM
devince83
post Sep 20 2010, 01:07 PM

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confuse... string and shaft stiffness.. =.="""
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post Sep 20 2010, 01:23 PM

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apacs email told me to string my edgesaber Z slayer to 18 ~ 22lbs for more power sad.gif

but im using 27 now, i feel like putting it to 25 for a way faster smash thumbup.gif
alan kc
post Sep 20 2010, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(Omage007 @ Sep 20 2010, 11:54 AM)
your example seem like didn't hit the point, we are talking about difference rubber band now, rubber band A is 24lbs rubber band B is 28lbs, if you use N strength to pull the rubber band A to reach X, you need N+M strength to pull the rubber band B to reach X, or with N strength only you can pull the rubber band B to reach X-Y distance only.

smash power not depends on X only; a racket B 28lbs string with X = 1.8cm only could be more powerful then a racket A 24lbs string racket with X = 2.0cm, if racket B can get X = 2.0cm also then sure a lot more powerful then racket A.

indeed your example is more suitable to describe shaft stiffness, if use N strength to band the racket shaft, the smaller the X value mean the stiffer the shaft; e.g : racket A modal 1, X = 1.0cm, stiff; racket A modal 2, X = 1.5cm, mid-stiff, racket A modal C, X = 2.0cm, flex. . .
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easy example is,string high tension,need more hand power to generate the power out...but if ur hand not enough power,it will not generate fully power out....if low string tension,no matter how many power u generate,the shuttle speed is still have limit,it still slower than the high tension power...
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post Sep 20 2010, 01:26 PM

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Huh? 18-22lbs for more power? I thought if you have enough power, you string to higher tension and you should get more power?

Of course if you are not powerful enough, stringing to higher tension will only make your game worse...
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post Sep 20 2010, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(fatnfit @ Sep 20 2010, 01:26 PM)
Huh? 18-22lbs for more power? I thought if you have enough power, you string to higher tension and you should get more power?

Of course if you are not powerful enough, stringing to higher tension will only make your game worse...
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haha...string high tension,need to more power to generate..if ur hand got power,u will get more shuttle speed in high tension...
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post Sep 20 2010, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(devince83 @ Sep 20 2010, 09:40 AM)
he did mentioned to pull the rubber band X cm same for experiment 1 & 2. This make the X cm is the constant figure.
When you stretch the rubber band longer a bit, you will need more strength to pull the rubber band to X cm.

Stretching the rubber band = tension
Pulling the rubber band = strength / hitting force
In short, the higher tension of your racket the more force you need to make stronger hitting power than using low tension string.

I just give a guess on what he mean.
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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Sep 20 2010, 10:55 AM)
sifu devince83 got it right ^^

yes, u r correct  notworthy.gif  and the pain comparison is to understand the power produced. more pain=more power produced
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now i get what u mean..
let's say the stretching is done vertically
the higher the stretching, the higher the tension
now i get it lol blush.gif

definitely, more force is needed to pull the rubber band to Xcm if the rubberband is stretched more

we have the same understanding..just showing it in a different way laugh.gif

wa deVince, using TWO top end victor rackets eh drool.gif ..i wan try~~
your lethal 50 gantung-ed? lmao


Added on September 20, 2010, 3:03 pm
QUOTE(melvin93 @ Sep 20 2010, 01:23 PM)
apacs email told me to string my edgesaber Z slayer to 18 ~ 22lbs for more power sad.gif

but im using 27 now, i feel like putting it to 25 for a way faster smash thumbup.gif
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you emailed apacs asking how to get more power? blink.gif

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post Sep 20 2010, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Sep 20 2010, 02:57 PM)
now i get what u mean..
let's say the stretching is done vertically
the higher the stretching, the higher the tension
now i get it lol blush.gif

definitely, more force is needed to pull the rubber band to Xcm if the rubberband is stretched more

we have the same understanding..just showing it in a different way laugh.gif

wa deVince, using TWO top end victor rackets eh drool.gif ..i wan try~~
your lethal 50 gantung-ed? lmao


Added on September 20, 2010, 3:03 pm
you emailed apacs asking how to get more power? blink.gif
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lethal 50 crash and broken with someone from la salle session doh.gif doh.gif dry.gif dry.gif
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post Sep 20 2010, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(devince83 @ Sep 20 2010, 06:40 PM)
lethal 50 crash and broken with someone from la salle session doh.gif doh.gif dry.gif dry.gif
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ooo another fallen warrior in the year.

what makes u buy the sp21?
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post Sep 20 2010, 07:50 PM

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between bg80 and bg66 string,which produce more power if use the same tension?
Fantasia
post Sep 20 2010, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(Omage007 @ Sep 20 2010, 11:54 AM)
your example seem like didn't hit the point, we are talking about difference rubber band now, rubber band A is 24lbs rubber band B is 28lbs, if you use N strength to pull the rubber band A to reach X, you need N+M strength to pull the rubber band B to reach X, or with N strength only you can pull the rubber band B to reach X-Y distance only.

smash power not depends on X only; a racket B 28lbs string with X = 1.8cm only could be more powerful then a racket A 24lbs string racket with X = 2.0cm, if racket B can get X = 2.0cm also then sure a lot more powerful then racket A.

indeed your example is more suitable to describe shaft stiffness, if use N strength to band the racket shaft, the smaller the X value mean the stiffer the shaft; e.g : racket A modal 1, X = 1.0cm, stiff; racket A modal 2, X = 1.5cm, mid-stiff, racket A modal C, X = 2.0cm, flex. . .
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i use back the same rubber band to illustrate the effect of different tension in the same string and i only want to explain what happen if use higher and lower string tension, that's all smile.gif


Added on September 20, 2010, 8:11 pm
QUOTE(doublezul @ Sep 20 2010, 07:50 PM)
between bg80 and bg66 string,which produce more power if use the same tension?
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BG80 is balance between power and durability. I believe BG66 still produce more power but lower durability than BG80

This post has been edited by Fantasia: Sep 20 2010, 08:11 PM
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post Sep 20 2010, 10:45 PM

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I just string apacs string. its 67mm. i forgot wats the name of the string.
its rm25. anyone know any idea on wats the name? i forgot to see properly coz was rushing. hahaha... lime colour...
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post Sep 21 2010, 05:36 AM

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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Sep 20 2010, 10:45 PM)
I just string apacs string. its 67mm. i forgot wats the name of the string.
its rm25. anyone know any idea on wats the name? i forgot to see properly coz was rushing. hahaha... lime colour...
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so despo to know the name ah bro icon_idea.gif
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post Sep 21 2010, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(ziggy87 @ Sep 20 2010, 06:50 PM)
ooo another fallen warrior in the year.

what makes u buy the sp21?
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initially plan to buy another bs10 as back-up...
when my string broken & sent to re-string, hardly can play the same feel with pro ace sweetspot 2000.
arc said spira21 about the same feel just more stiff than bs10.
it took me some times to get adapt the spira21 cos it's more heavy and stiff than bs10.

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post Sep 21 2010, 10:18 AM

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i see yonex racquet with "sp" on their shaft. what does it mean?
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post Sep 21 2010, 11:01 AM

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guys, i will be back to malaysia this weekend. Will offer again my YY NS9900 as wat i did during merdeka. Interested buyer kindly contact me before Friday via PM as i hardly online when i am back to KL. Only will be free this Saturday noon.
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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Sep 21 2010, 10:18 AM)
i see yonex racquet with "sp" on their shaft. what does it mean?
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All rackets provided by Sunrise must be marked SP on shaft and it is it's own marking to distinguish Sunrise distributed products for after sales services.

*found this in badmintoncentral*
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post Sep 21 2010, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Sep 21 2010, 10:18 AM)
i see yonex racquet with "sp" on their shaft. what does it mean?
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sp is under singapore...coz sunrise in malaysia is under singapore office...th is thailand,tw is taiwan,ip is for international player...if u buy at other country like th,u cant claim at malaysia...ip is not warannty,coz it is for internatonal player...but price cheap...


Added on September 21, 2010, 1:14 pm
QUOTE(Fantasia @ Sep 20 2010, 08:10 PM)
i use back the same rubber band to illustrate the effect of different tension in the same string and i only want to explain what happen if use higher and lower string tension, that's all  smile.gif


Added on September 20, 2010, 8:11 pm
BG80 is balance between power and durability. I believe BG66 still produce more power but lower durability than BG80
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it also hav to depens wat tension he mension,if 32 lbs,i think bg 80 will generate more power,coz bg66 too thin,if strungh 32lbs,its too over d,so dun hav any flex..

This post has been edited by alan kc: Sep 21 2010, 01:14 PM

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