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 All About Badminton Equipment v2, Racket, Shoes, Grip, String, Cocks

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Aurora
post May 30 2010, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(Chee @ May 29 2010, 04:08 PM)
halo guys, wish to ask something.
I just recently pick up badminton... and wish to purchase a racquet with budget rm200-250.. More to attack style.

Any recommendation for the racquet?
Tried fren's carbonex 8000. felt good with it
thinking of yonex
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For beginner, racket is the least important thing. Just pickup any racket which feel good to you. The most important thing is grip. Learn the correct grip, and stroke technique. smile.gif


Added on May 30, 2010, 7:51 pmFantasia:
I used to have a racket that has similar style as yours. It's good for defense (cause it's light), and control (flexible).

Low kickpoint, do you mean it has relatively low pivot point? It happens to all light racket.

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post May 30 2010, 10:31 PM

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sp21 is great... very fast racket.... i had tried bs09 and i didnt like it.... the whole session today just using it.... love the nbg98 as well..... all my yonexs are kept in the bag sad.gif....


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post May 30 2010, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(plkvoon @ May 30 2010, 10:31 PM)
sp21 is great... very fast racket....  i had tried bs09 and i didnt like it.... the whole session today just using it.... love the nbg98 as well..... all my yonexs are kept in the bag sad.gif....
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sp21, later people tot it is the Yonex Carbonex. . . so any comparison comment between your Yonex high end racket and the Victor SP21?? what wrong with the Victor bs09 for you? not stiff enough? too light?
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QUOTE(Omage007 @ May 30 2010, 11:22 PM)
sp21, later people tot it is the Yonex Carbonex. . .  so any comparison comment between your Yonex high end racket and the Victor SP21?? what wrong with the Victor bs09 for you? not stiff enough? too light?
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bs09 is too slow to my liking.... i find at900t way faster when i am playing doubles... maybe it's just me... not sure.....

well to compare to my current YY rackets, SP21 is fast and had plenty of power when come to smashing... similiar to ns9900 but not that stiff i guess(i might be wrong).... but it able to produce more power when it comes to smashing with it.... but did suffer abit on netplay.... need some adjustment.....

overall sp21 with nbg98, is very nice.... i nvr played with nbg98 before till today... i rclxms.gif
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post May 31 2010, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(Aurora @ May 30 2010, 07:46 PM)
For beginner, racket is the least important thing. Just pickup any racket which feel good to you. The most important thing is grip. Learn the correct grip, and stroke technique. smile.gif


Added on May 30, 2010, 7:51 pmFantasia:
I used to have a racket that has similar style as yours. It's good for defense (cause it's light), and control (flexible).

Low kickpoint, do you mean it has relatively low pivot point? It happens to all light racket.
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thx for ur info notworthy.gif . i google about kickpoint, but dont really understand... high kick point= can generate more power ?? and i also google pivot point and sweet point... a bit blur la. sweet point = the best spot on string when shuttle contact it?? to be honest, compare to my friend's racquet, my racquet really light. and i need to use VERY huge amount of energy to to clear from my baseline to opponent baseline. i'm using bg 65. izzit string also 1 of the factor it lack of power?? been using this racquet for like more than 6 years...
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QUOTE(Fantasia @ May 31 2010, 01:52 AM)
thx for ur info notworthy.gif . i google about kickpoint, but dont really understand... high kick point= can generate more power ?? and i also google pivot point and sweet point... a bit blur la. sweet point = the best spot on string when shuttle contact it?? to be honest, compare to my friend's racquet, my racquet really light. and i need to use VERY huge amount of energy to to clear from my baseline to opponent baseline. i'm using bg 65. izzit string also 1 of the factor it lack of power?? been using this racquet for like more than 6 years...
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I think it need a lot thousands words to explain you all these. . . maybe you can try to read this >> http://www.kkracketx.com/racket-guide.html

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post May 31 2010, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(Fantasia @ May 31 2010, 01:52 AM)
thx for ur info notworthy.gif . i google about kickpoint, but dont really understand... high kick point= can generate more power ?? and i also google pivot point and sweet point... a bit blur la. sweet point = the best spot on string when shuttle contact it?? to be honest, compare to my friend's racquet, my racquet really light. and i need to use VERY huge amount of energy to to clear from my baseline to opponent baseline. i'm using bg 65. izzit string also 1 of the factor it lack of power?? been using this racquet for like more than 6 years...
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from my understanding, kick point = balance point (bp in short and normally measured in mm)
sweet point = sweetspot where it produces the best performance (i suppose if the shuttle hits any other spots except the sweetspot, it's consider as mishit)

the weight of the racket might be the factor for ur lack of power
if the racket is headlight, it will make matters worst
string has minimal factor but tension has a big factor
maybe consider lowering the tension?


Added on May 31, 2010, 2:11 am
QUOTE(Omage007 @ May 31 2010, 01:55 AM)
I think it need a lot thousands words to explain you all these. . .  maybe you can try to read this >> http://www.kkracketx.com/racket-guide.html
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good piece of article by kk

This post has been edited by ziggy87: May 31 2010, 02:11 AM
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post May 31 2010, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(Omage007 @ May 31 2010, 01:55 AM)
I think it need a lot thousands words to explain you all these. . .  maybe you can try to read this >> http://www.kkracketx.com/racket-guide.html
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thx a lot for ur link, will read later
QUOTE(ziggy87 @ May 31 2010, 02:00 AM)
from my understanding, kick point = balance point (bp in short and normally measured in mm)
sweet point = sweetspot where it produces the best performance (i suppose if the shuttle hits any other spots except the sweetspot, it's consider as mishit)

the weight of the racket might be the factor for ur lack of power
if the racket is headlight, it will make matters worst
string has minimal factor but tension has a big factor
maybe consider lowering the tension?
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thank u laugh.gif if i got anything dont understand u wont feel mafan if i ask u
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EHhh i think string got alot of difference!

Heres my 2 cents

Currently I am only exposed to most Yonex strings and Zymax62 and Accupower62.

For yonex strings apple to apple comparison


all strings with the TI word behind each model has Titanium coating which is very slippery on strings.

Nanogy strings are equally slippery and after a few months of play the coating may wear off and you may need to change to a new string for a similar feel.

Basically I love BG80 =D but currently using BG66Maxima a .65mm string from Japan. I hate slippery strings because when i do trick shots such as slices it is inaccurate for me, BUT it may be different for you guys!

oh! I did a 29lbs on my zymax62 and accupower 62 which feels like a 31 for a BG66 so the thinner the strings try to lower down your tension since it feels stiffer!
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post Jun 1 2010, 12:12 AM

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is that any way for check my string tension??
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post Jun 1 2010, 01:16 AM

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through experience i guess lol how much are you using currently? then try to press on the sweet spot of the racket and see if its consistent, if it is then ur stringer is pretty good lol
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I got this new racket for myself...Apacs EdgeSaber 10. Very nice, I can do accurate hits now. But have to hit really really hard to smash far. I fitted Ashaway Zymax 67 (durable) @ 25lbs. Should I change to something with more repulsive power or just increase tension to 27lbs?
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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Jun 1 2010, 01:16 AM)
through experience i guess lol how much are you using currently? then try to press on the sweet spot of the racket and see if its consistent, if it is then ur stringer is pretty good lol
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what do u mean if its consistent?? i dont know what tension i'm using. i only know the existance of tension 2 weeks ago and how tension works few hours ago XD
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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ May 31 2010, 11:49 PM)
EHhh i think string got alot of difference!

Heres my 2 cents

Currently I am only exposed to most Yonex strings and Zymax62 and Accupower62.

For yonex strings apple to apple comparison
all strings with the TI word behind each model has Titanium coating which is very slippery on strings.

Nanogy strings are equally slippery and after a few months of play the coating may wear off and you may need to change to a new string for a similar feel.

Basically I love BG80 =D but currently using BG66Maxima a .65mm string from Japan. I hate slippery strings because when i do trick shots such as slices it is inaccurate for me, BUT it may be different for you guys!

oh! I did a 29lbs on my zymax62 and accupower 62 which feels like a 31 for a BG66 so the thinner the strings try to lower down your tension since it feels stiffer!
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yo calvin..

yes the ti coating is very slippery
if u hv chance, try BG66Sharp..thicker version of BG66 with same amount of power but with better durability

yupe..0.7mm strings @ 29lbs will feel like 27 for BG66
that's the idea..inaccurate comparison tho haha

QUOTE(Fantasia @ Jun 1 2010, 12:12 AM)
is that any way for check my string tension??
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if u're experience enuf, few hits on the palm and u can come out with the approximate tension based on the sound

QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Jun 1 2010, 01:43 AM)
I got this new racket for myself...Apacs EdgeSaber 10. Very nice, I can do accurate hits now. But have to hit really really hard to smash far. I fitted Ashaway Zymax 67 (durable) @ 25lbs. Should I change to something with more repulsive power or just increase tension to 27lbs?
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what was ur previous tension? and string?
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post Jun 1 2010, 09:39 AM

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previously I used my father's rackets only.
Yonex Carbonex X8 @ 27lbs.
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post Jun 1 2010, 12:13 PM

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what is the purpose of using slippery string?? and also i heard a lot of ppl want to get a string which produce good sound. how does sound affect our performance?
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QUOTE(Fantasia @ Jun 1 2010, 12:13 PM)
what is the purpose of using slippery string?? and also i heard a lot of ppl want to get a string which produce good sound. how does sound affect our performance?
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It is more of a matter of preference IMO. I still prefer rougher strings like BG80 which is better for netplay as it kind of 'grabs' to the birdie when doing tumbling netshots. Currently using ZM67 but it is kind of not as good as BG80 at the same tension. In badmintoncentral, there's a talk about ZM67 being somewhat a little different compared to ZM62 and ZM70.

Sound IMO does affect some what of performance. My understanding is that if you can hear the BOOMING at least you know you are hitting dead on the sweet spot. It gives somewhat of a 'confirmation' that you have hit the birdie correctly.
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Jumping smash, what is the reason some people will bend their leg upward and some won't?? own preference? can jump higher? can smash more powerful?

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QUOTE(findecano1 @ Jun 1 2010, 02:32 PM)
It is more of a matter of preference IMO. I still prefer rougher strings like BG80 which is better for netplay as it kind of 'grabs' to the birdie when doing tumbling netshots. Currently using ZM67 but it is kind of not as good as BG80 at the same tension. In badmintoncentral, there's a talk about ZM67 being somewhat a little different compared to ZM62 and ZM70.

Sound IMO does affect some what of performance. My understanding is that if you can hear the BOOMING at least you know you are hitting dead on the sweet spot. It gives somewhat of a 'confirmation' that you have hit the birdie correctly.
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If someone using the same racket same string same strength but difference tension, let's say 23lbs and 27lbs, which one BOOMING sound will be more louder? sharper? crispy?? me using BG66 and BG80 before, 24lbs - 25lbs, smash never got BOOMING sound one. . . sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Jun 1 2010, 09:39 AM)
previously I used my father's rackets only.
Yonex Carbonex X8 @ 27lbs.
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what about string? maybe you should increase it to 27lbs and give it a try

QUOTE(findecano1 @ Jun 1 2010, 02:32 PM)
It is more of a matter of preference IMO. I still prefer rougher strings like BG80 which is better for netplay as it kind of 'grabs' to the birdie when doing tumbling netshots. Currently using ZM67 but it is kind of not as good as BG80 at the same tension. In badmintoncentral, there's a talk about ZM67 being somewhat a little different compared to ZM62 and ZM70.

Sound IMO does affect some what of performance. My understanding is that if you can hear the BOOMING at least you know you are hitting dead on the sweet spot. It gives somewhat of a 'confirmation' that you have hit the birdie correctly.
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they call it the lost child or stg..lol
doesnt have the zymax traits

QUOTE(Omage007 @ Jun 1 2010, 03:21 PM)
Jumping smash, what is the reason some people will bend their leg upward and some won't?? own preference? can jump higher? can smash more powerful?

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i'm not sure but i think it increase the power
it's like curl your whole body backwards, and when release the curl towards front, it produces more power
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QUOTE(findecano1 @ Jun 1 2010, 02:32 PM)
It is more of a matter of preference IMO. I still prefer rougher strings like BG80 which is better for netplay as it kind of 'grabs' to the birdie when doing tumbling netshots. Currently using ZM67 but it is kind of not as good as BG80 at the same tension. In badmintoncentral, there's a talk about ZM67 being somewhat a little different compared to ZM62 and ZM70.

Sound IMO does affect some what of performance. My understanding is that if you can hear the BOOMING at least you know you are hitting dead on the sweet spot. It gives somewhat of a 'confirmation' that you have hit the birdie correctly.
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boom?? i only heard PAK wor... boom sound more like stomping sweat.gif

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