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Health Sugar Glider Diet & Nutrition 101, What do you feed your gliders and why

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saramic
post Oct 2 2008, 02:11 AM

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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Oct 2 2008, 01:26 AM)
the wombaroo now i giv glitter twice a day, and let her drink as much as she wants. BUT the packet says add 50g of powder to make 200ml milk. I do not need so much. So i just estimate the powder and water.

Is there anything i need to be precaution of?

About the cheese, is it recommanded to feed a small small piece everyday?


Added on October 2, 2008, 1:28 amcalcium : P = 2:1 .


Added on October 2, 2008, 1:29 amwad u feed daily?


Added on October 2, 2008, 1:38 ami find that PML is the simplest to make. without the gm , ml all that makes me confusing.

THE PML any1 tired before? I got the wombaroo milk maybe i can try making it.. anyway the honey use processed 1 right?
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milk is important for a growing suggie so the measurement must be correct.

cheese has alot of salt. try yogurt.

yes. only use processed honey.

if it is too confusing for you then just feed smoothies/slurp (which ever u still trust) & fruits alternately....

every suggie is different with different preferences for fruits....

example my gadget & qiqi hates apples while timon & pumbaa loves them...

so it's up to us to find out what fruits they like & refer to the chart to see that you are giving them the right cal : p ratio....

try not to feed the same fruits every time... be imaginative....

you don't like to eat the same thing all the time too right?


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post Oct 2 2008, 02:15 AM

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QUOTE(saramic @ Oct 2 2008, 02:11 AM)
milk is important for a growing suggie so the measurement must be correct.

cheese has alot of salt. try yogurt.

yes. only use processed honey.

if it is too confusing for you then just feed smoothies/slurp (which ever u still trust) & fruits alternately....

every suggie is different with different preferences for fruits....

example my gadget & qiqi hates apples while timon & pumbaa loves them...

so it's up to us to find out what fruits they like & refer to the chart to see that you are giving them the right cal : p ratio....

try not to feed the same fruits every time... be imaginative....

you don't like to eat the same thing all the time too right?
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i can eat nasi goreng USA everyday...


anyway mochi, just a little advice:

make sure the milk is not too thick later your joey cannot digest...
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post Oct 2 2008, 02:33 AM

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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Oct 2 2008, 01:24 AM)
nothing to be confused about..just make sure phosphorus dont get higher than calcium & make sure not to overdose calcium..

conclusion, make it calcium : phosphorus ; 1.5:1 or 2:1

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It has to be 2:1.

QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Oct 2 2008, 01:26 AM)
i find that PML is the simplest to make. without the gm , ml all that makes me confusing.

THE PML any1 tired before? I got the wombaroo milk maybe i can try making it.. anyway the honey use processed 1 right?
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Mochi, what you have is Wombaroo Milk Powder. PML uses WOMBAROO HIGH PROTEIN POWDER. Please do not get confused between the two. I think Nezu also mentioned this earlier on to you.

This post has been edited by jtl: Oct 2 2008, 02:34 AM
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post Oct 2 2008, 09:23 AM

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Thanks for the info NewbieBetta. Thanks for the comment sharil_routh, Happy festive season. Thanks bonai for the help yesterday. notworthy.gif

By the way, regarding cheese, what seramic and nezu say is right, is not advisable, but can give them once in a blue moon (small small piece). Reason is cheese is internal binding - it causes constipation, and another guy claims that it prevents your glider from growing.
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Some Common Diet and the No-No's

Regarding processed honey, don't overdose can already. One more thing safe about using processed honey (I assume those with proper label) is that they don't contain refined sugar. If raw honey (usually sold in glass bottles), is very hard to differentiate (the pureness), unless the seller is reputable. Cause raw honey is expensive, and many of those sold in night market are raw honey mixed with large quantity refined sugar. Consumers will have serious health problems taking this substance.

Just a suggestions: we have many list of what SGs can eat, won't it be great if we too have a list of what SGs can't eat? If jtl decides to put them in first page for reference, some of the No's are included in the link about.
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post Oct 2 2008, 12:37 PM

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oh ookok .. actually the instruction behind stated add 50g to 200ml, but glitter cant drink up to 200ml ma.. so i have to mix myself. i juz make sure its not too thick and not too scarce. CAn right?
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post Oct 2 2008, 01:32 PM

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Is okay de ^MochI^. The milk you buy is for additional nutrients for your Glitter.. My personal opinion is that a bit scarce is alright, but since too thick is not good, then I definitely don't want to make it thick.. Don't worry too much, Glitter will be happy and healthy even if they just get 70% nutrient out of the milk.
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post Oct 2 2008, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Oct 2 2008, 12:37 PM)
oh ookok .. actually the instruction behind stated add 50g to 200ml, but glitter cant drink up to 200ml ma.. so i have to mix myself. i juz make sure its not too thick and not too scarce. CAn right?
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Mochi, I thought I explained this to you when you came that day.

You need to adjust accordingly to the measurements. If 50g makes 200ml, then 25g makes 100ml, 12.5g makes 50ml and so forth. You just need measure it.
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post Oct 3 2008, 02:12 AM

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u did? my memory is very bad.. and bad maths too.. use wad to measure g ?

empty- thanks.. smile.gif

er.. can i feed glitter just feed papaya and wombaroo milk since she doesnt knw how to eat harder fruits and veges wor..
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post Oct 3 2008, 03:44 AM

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g = grams. erm, you bake anything at home? you can use a mini scale..
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post Oct 3 2008, 05:02 PM

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hi all~ would like to seek some advise. i have a baby gal which is 4 months old. which is more suitable for her.

1. The pet glider complete multivitamin ( from krynzpeaches )

OR

2. Repcal (Green Label) Phosphorous Free & No vitamin D3

thanks alot!
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post Oct 3 2008, 05:30 PM

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Erm, the two products are different. So is a bit tough to say which is better.

The multivitamins as the name suggest, contains, calcium, nectar, bee pollen, and other things, while the Repcal contains only calcium.

Maybe you can take a look at the multivitamin nutrient facts before you make your decision. But overall if you're feeding your gliders with food that has sufficient calcium, then multivitamin may be your preferred choice. Besides, since your glider is still young, then multivitamin will help boost the immune system as well.

If the gliders has insufficient calcium, then Repcal might be more suitable, for instance, gliders show signs of lack in calcium, then Repcal will help boost their calcium intake.

But I'm just giving my opinion, jtl, nezu and the other experts will be able to better aid you in making your selection.
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post Oct 4 2008, 03:02 AM

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err.. no baking wor.. so i need get something like a mini scale to weight isit.. can weight grams a.. since so little amount only like 1g.. lol.. accurate anot de
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post Oct 4 2008, 09:34 AM

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Erm, usually small analog scale will be sufficient. Kitchen scales are made to measure small items de ma (3 kg scale will be good enough). If you doubt the accuracy, maybe you can op for digital scales. These are much more accurate, very easy to read and more expensive. You can purchase scales at stores that sell baking stuffs.

But if you want to measure 1g to 5 g. Then maybe digital is better, cause some can measure 0.000 grams. Anyway, search for 'kitchen scale' under garagesales and you will find a guy selling this item. You can ask him more, but the items is out of stock.
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post Oct 4 2008, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(Luna_star @ Oct 3 2008, 05:02 PM)
hi all~ would like to seek some advise. i have a baby gal which is 4 months old. which is more suitable for her.

1. The pet glider complete multivitamin ( from krynzpeaches )

OR

2. Repcal (Green Label) Phosphorous Free & No vitamin D3

thanks alot!
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calcium is more important, if u have budget, then get the calcium 1st, then next is the multi vit. if u can affort of cos getting both is the best. repcal is seashell base n there is an other better one which is stone base. glider-cal. also cheaper smile.gif

QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Oct 4 2008, 03:02 AM)
err.. no baking wor.. so i need get something like a mini scale to weight isit.. can weight grams a.. since so little amount only like 1g.. lol.. accurate anot de
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i am sure there is something in ur house which u can measure gram. dig ur 4 yrs old boy stuff n see.. i am sure when he is baby sure u hv something for him. if u want to measure 5g in scale, u will need a digital one..
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err.. i think i rem i post here? but cant find where my question..
err i ask again double confirm..

becoz glitter still small or she picky, she doesnt like to eat veggies even i chop into small small pieces for her. Im afraid she doesnt get enough nutrients.. Is it ok to feed her just the smoothie+milk+papaya for the time being as i slowly introduce more veggies and fruits which are harder for her?
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QUOTE(^MochI^ @ Oct 4 2008, 11:45 AM)
err.. i think i rem i post here? but cant find where my question..
err i ask again double confirm..

becoz glitter still small or she picky, she doesnt like to eat veggies even i chop into small small pieces for her. Im afraid she doesnt get enough nutrients.. Is it ok to feed her just the smoothie+milk+papaya for the time being as i slowly introduce more veggies and fruits which are harder for her?
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It's best if you can give her a variety of fruits and veggies. If you are concerned about her being picky, then what you can do is blend the fruits and veggies together so that she can't pick and choose. You will need to experiment which combination works best for Glitter.

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ok thanks.
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post Oct 5 2008, 03:59 PM

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thanks for the suggestions! ive read from some pages which calcium needs to be given everyday, some says just twice a week.

which should i follow?

if im feeding her twice a day, does that mean i have to sprinkle the calcium per meal?
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Giving calcium supplements varies. If the food you're feeding are already high in calcium then calcium supplements that you purchased can be given twice a week. For those that fed calcium supplements everyday, is either the food they are feeding does not have high calcium content, or they are just giving the gliders light dose of calcium.

Recommended is 1.5 : 1 to 2 : 1. If you're somewhere between that range then your glider will be healthy. I won't try feeding twice a day. But still it depends on the food the glider is eating. Be careful not to overdose. Good luck
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post Oct 6 2008, 11:31 AM

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maxi supplement once a day....

go get a measure spoon those use for baking.

1 teaspoon of Calcium Supplement - 50days consumption for 1 glider. don't over dose.

scope 1 teaspoon out. then pinch it.. make it 50 pinch.. so u know the amount to pinch per day.

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