Hi there I'm new to SG.. All this slurp, smoothies, fruitciles and those things (That forumers here make) they all require freezer for storage.. Is there any other products similar to these which doesn't requires freezers at the same time provides as much nutrients??

I'm staying at a hostel, freezer is out of the question, only can get normal mini fridge to chill stuffs..

Thanks alot.

Ok ok.. Cook in hostel? Erm.. I have a heater which I don't use, if it involves boiling, steaming.. Maybe I can work something out with what I have.. Frying can't..

By the way, now there's a new issue in slurp (posted in gliver v8).. I'm really confused with all these things.. So many kinds of diet debates..

So what important is fruits and vege should be 2:1 Cal:P ratio.. 3 fruits + 1 vege + a few insects + some kibbles = fix meal.. Others are just supplements? Is small dose of raw honey recommended? Search for glider-cal, is it in powder form? What about glider-booster? Do you carry this product?

Thanks Nezu, hope to hear from you soon. = )

Wah Cipan, like that also can ar? Can't get anyone to come over to help you feed them? The food will rot oh..

This post has been edited by empty_reg: Sep 29 2008, 08:35 PM

Electroyid: Too much calcium will cause kidney stone, residue calcium in other organs, and or joints and some other things similiar, I guess.. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Nezu thanks alot for the info.. I was wondering, many of you feed SG with yogurt as treats and calcium source.. Just wandering can they take cheese? Cheese are milk products that is process too right?

You say no raw honey, give normal processed honey.. But why? Isn't more nutrient contained in raw honey as to processed?

How to teach you? You must be kidding.. You're like been keeping these gliders for so long... More over, production and distribution of smoothies requires lots of research ma.. Some more you have your own nutritionist..

I thought raw honey is better cause human take raw honey is better.. That's just my assumption.. Besides I take it when ever they are available... Haha..

But anywhere, google it.. Basically they say too much honey is not good. Cause they contained botulinum endospores . Too much of these stuff causes diarrhea (Especially joeys before 4 mth OOP).. These applies to some diet mix as well (HPW and BML mix - contain 1/2 cup honey <According to the article, 150ml is very high>) [I'm not an expert I found them at google].. This is because their digestive system isn't strong enough.. And no RAW honey because they contain more botulinum endospores than processed.. Further detail study I leave it to the expert to comment...

I found the resource Here and Here.

Ok ok.. Saw in the first post those vege and fruits with high oxalde.. Building a list of fruits that I can feed them.. Haha.. Thanks alot for your help..

Thanks for the info NewbieBetta. Thanks for the comment sharil_routh, Happy festive season. Thanks bonai for the help yesterday.

By the way, regarding cheese, what seramic and nezu say is right, is not advisable, but can give them once in a blue moon (small small piece). Reason is cheese is internal binding - it causes constipation, and another guy claims that it prevents your glider from growing.
Resources:
Some Common Diet and the No-No's

Regarding processed honey, don't overdose can already. One more thing safe about using processed honey (I assume those with proper label) is that they don't contain refined sugar. If raw honey (usually sold in glass bottles), is very hard to differentiate (the pureness), unless the seller is reputable. Cause raw honey is expensive, and many of those sold in night market are raw honey mixed with large quantity refined sugar. Consumers will have serious health problems taking this substance.

Just a suggestions: we have many list of what SGs can eat, won't it be great if we too have a list of what SGs can't eat? If jtl decides to put them in first page for reference, some of the No's are included in the link about.

Is okay de ^MochI^. The milk you buy is for additional nutrients for your Glitter.. My personal opinion is that a bit scarce is alright, but since too thick is not good, then I definitely don't want to make it thick.. Don't worry too much, Glitter will be happy and healthy even if they just get 70% nutrient out of the milk.

g = grams. erm, you bake anything at home? you can use a mini scale..

Erm, the two products are different. So is a bit tough to say which is better.

The multivitamins as the name suggest, contains, calcium, nectar, bee pollen, and other things, while the Repcal contains only calcium.

Maybe you can take a look at the multivitamin nutrient facts before you make your decision. But overall if you're feeding your gliders with food that has sufficient calcium, then multivitamin may be your preferred choice. Besides, since your glider is still young, then multivitamin will help boost the immune system as well.

If the gliders has insufficient calcium, then Repcal might be more suitable, for instance, gliders show signs of lack in calcium, then Repcal will help boost their calcium intake.

But I'm just giving my opinion, jtl, nezu and the other experts will be able to better aid you in making your selection.

Erm, usually small analog scale will be sufficient. Kitchen scales are made to measure small items de ma (3 kg scale will be good enough). If you doubt the accuracy, maybe you can op for digital scales. These are much more accurate, very easy to read and more expensive. You can purchase scales at stores that sell baking stuffs.

But if you want to measure 1g to 5 g. Then maybe digital is better, cause some can measure 0.000 grams. Anyway, search for 'kitchen scale' under garagesales and you will find a guy selling this item. You can ask him more, but the items is out of stock.

Giving calcium supplements varies. If the food you're feeding are already high in calcium then calcium supplements that you purchased can be given twice a week. For those that fed calcium supplements everyday, is either the food they are feeding does not have high calcium content, or they are just giving the gliders light dose of calcium.

Recommended is 1.5 : 1 to 2 : 1. If you're somewhere between that range then your glider will be healthy. I won't try feeding twice a day. But still it depends on the food the glider is eating. Be careful not to overdose. Good luck

Eee yeap. Nezu also says her is modified version of BML. Many people from overseas has been feeding BML, highly recommended by many breeders and hobbyist alike.

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Then I guess after reading this thread you should tell your brothr what to do with it's diet.
Basically, is good to give it calcium supplements now. (I assume the seller won't waste additional doughs to feed it calcium, that's why he is telling your bro an apple a day is enough.)
If you can't get all the items right away, rotate the food that is recommended.
1 - 2 fruit + 1 vege + protein (meat / insects) + calcium supplements(yogurts)
change the items daily until you can get other kinds of food for it.
For recommended food, just stick to those available in the first post to get a brief idea what it can eat.

If the glider is young and tame, 200 is cheap. Usually reputated breeders are selling each for 300 - 350 depending on sex.
I can find cheaper than 200 as well. But it will never be as healthy as those sold by reputated breeders. So is the responsibility of the buyers to take care of it once it reaches the buyers hand.

Good luck Meis

This post has been edited by empty_reg: Oct 12 2008, 10:08 AM