!! custom cooler ftw!!! thermalright ..Feel like getting an Asus card XD...

4 me, performance matter more den looks.

well, reference is kinda heavy..................

Holy shit. How noisy will that be at 100%?

like a mini hair dryer.

wen u on pc dat time, it will run @ 100% for ~1 second.
dats the sound.

oit bro...
want to see ur card can r??
soon will join u and we will terrorize on9!!!

Dude...READ the link above b4 u start talking again...already got pretty good explanation. And ignorance is no excuses when you can GOOGLE. Back in Bruce Lee's days, there's no internet, but now you do.



Playing games at anything less than 30fps IS lag. And for fast action games like FPS, racing, action like Devil May Cry etc...60fps is how it should be play. 30fps is no excuse when you have today's powerful GPU.



This post has been edited by Matrix: Nov 25 2008, 04:29 PM

chill dude ...everyone still learning mah...

well...........u still dun get my point.

v r not even on the same page.
i'm not saying u're wrong.

yes, 30fps compared to 60fps, u may b notice 30fps is slower.
no, even @ 25fps, dis frame rate is not QUALIFY 2 b consider as lag, yet.

kl tower compare to KLCC, kl tower is shorter, but dis doesn't conclude dat kl tower is consider as a short building.
i hope u get wat i mean............

best is 2experience it ur own.
assume dat u hav a ATI GC, run ATI tray tools which playing game. the fps will show up on the top right corner.
just play as u usually does, wen u starting to actually fell the lag, look @ the fps.

i've do dis countless times, & i can tell u dat wen i look @ the fps, it is 22 wen i actually fell something is lagging.

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Added on November 25, 2008, 4:37 pmthose r not actually lag, may b its ghosting due to LCD slow respond time.
try using CRT or plasma tv, it'll flow smooth.

also, another thing dat i like 2 point out, people usually tek this wrongly.
example, a game is running @ average 30fps & it fells lag sometime, therefore 30fps is consider not enough.
the actually thing dat happen is, may b the game is running @ max 35fps, min 20fps & average 30fps.
v only fell the lag on those ~20fps part.

This post has been edited by tech3910: Nov 25 2008, 04:38 PM

Lag or i would prefer choppy frame rates can be differs up to individual perceptions. Some can tolerate lower frame rates and keep on gaming without nag. However gaming need to be fluid in motion especially in fast action and first person shooter games. Film 24fps never promise this fluidity motion. This to preserve the actual frame rate and the film vibe. Therefore, 24fps is certainly not the floor frame rates for gaming as you were saying. I'm not gonna talk about plasma/lcd tv abilities to duplicates frame to mimic fluid motion that can increase the 'frame rates'. That is way out of discussion.

we are talking about games here..don't compare game FPS to movie FPS, i've already said this before..both are not the same
movies use "Motion Blur" that's why eventho it's 24fps u see it as normal, if u pause the movie at a fast motion movement u'll see the blur.
STOP comparing games and movies fps...and u stop argue

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Added on November 25, 2008, 5:23 pmif u cant tell the difference between 30 and 60fps and also 100fps u need to get eyecheck..
no offence.

This post has been edited by xpresside: Nov 25 2008, 05:23 PM

haish....stop it...
so if my frame rate is 24fps and it maintain dat way, i would call that smooth...
but if d fps jump up and down and stutter, dat what i call lag...
just continue r...
no need fight2 bout fps...
i've seen many threads fighting d same topic...
aiyooo...

asus announces new ROG matrix 4870 & 4850 cards

24fps smooth? a disgrace to gamers. or in fps games, free frag lol.
http://www.tweakguides.com/Graphics_5.html

a bit late on the uptake eh..

well, i can live with that...
no harm done for me or nature if my frame speed not so godlike...kekeke

ATi rox~! I just bought a HD 4870 X2 last month.. not much of problem occurred~~ proud to be ATi owner~~~~~

sound like u got prob with ur ati card ehh...

so late
i edi bought DK one
huhuhu

post ur card pict in buy club bro
hehehe
wanna see it

@ruffstuff, @xpresside
note my 1st line: "v're not on the same page"
@ least u can ply game................
i can't do anything wit my 8400gs..................
playing RA2 now, @ least its better den RA3...............stupid EA......
a review would b nice............