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 AMD/ATi HD 4000 Series Discussion V4, Just added: HD4830 benches!

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post Oct 4 2008, 04:06 AM

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post Oct 4 2008, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(Dickong @ Oct 4 2008, 08:14 PM)
Where to get the os, becos guru3d is very old n doesnt support vista


Added on October 4, 2008, 9:12 pmAnyway, i will try it out, but just need to know how long will the driver cleaner take, few minutes or couple of hours. TQ
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few minutes only but driver cleaner have to pay for the copy unless u get somewhr else
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post Oct 10 2008, 03:19 AM

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QUOTE(iostream @ Oct 9 2008, 11:15 PM)
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post Nov 7 2008, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(tachlio @ Nov 7 2008, 09:31 AM)
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how is taking up space in your casing is a "waste" of space laugh.gif
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post Nov 10 2008, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Nov 10 2008, 11:08 AM)
eyes can only see 60fps max la.. 200fps? u got a robotic implanted retina or damn good brain.
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everyone's eyes is different...some 20/20, some wear contacts, some wear glasses
same goes to your brain, yes i can also feel the difference between 60-vsync fps and 100fps
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post Nov 11 2008, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Nov 11 2008, 11:43 AM)
Friend..this has been argued countless time and proven....60fps made a hell lot of difference compared to 30fps.
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yup, last time when i played wow i turned on v-sync so fps stuck at 60, after that i turned it off and fps goes up to 100+ can really see the difference especially when u're on your flying mount and look around.
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post Nov 11 2008, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Nov 11 2008, 03:52 PM)
30fps still not visible for d lagging...
my anime run @25+fps and dont see any laggish...
maybe it depends on d eyes itself...
mine still ok under 30fps...just dont go under 20...
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movie/drama/animation FPS != Game FPS
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post Nov 20 2008, 06:07 PM

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everyone talking about 4850...no1's talking anything about 4870x2 izzit.. cry.gif
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post Nov 21 2008, 03:10 AM

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QUOTE(lingloong @ Nov 20 2008, 06:45 PM)
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post Nov 25 2008, 02:35 AM

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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Nov 25 2008, 12:41 AM)
i'll wait till pc fair only buy.
last time pc fair benq girls was great............ tongue.gif

well, the review says it all.
2 - 3 fps gain doesn't justify the 1gb memory.
i'll stick wit 512 if u ask me.

btw, dun worry too much bout fps, if the game is running @ 24fps constant, u wont fell the lag unless it go bellow 24................. smile.gif
people, dun start 2 argue bout how many fps consider no lag, coz 24 is the ans.

evidence:
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ur evidence is false
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post Nov 25 2008, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Nov 25 2008, 12:55 PM)
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i'm talking those older days la..................
try imagining of those bruce lee movies bck then.
tell me, if the camera capable of max 24fps, how dey optimized it 30fps in movies?
dey shoot it in slowmo & speed it up?

u jav 2 understand dis.
30fps = smooth
<24fps = consider as lag
60fps = fully optimized

u're comparing 30fps & 60fps & conclude dat 30fps is lower therefore consider lag.
slower & lagging is 2 different term, do not confuse.
its like saying 9800gtx is a slower GPU compared to 4870 therefore conclude 9800gtx is a sux GPU.

i'm trying 2 get dis point out in every "fps discussion".
dun tek my statement too offensively, coz i'm not................. sweat.gif

btw, i b lief in the 90s, movies r still shoot @ 24fps.
dunno bout holywood standard, i'm talking bout like those hong kong budget film.
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we are talking about games here..don't compare game FPS to movie FPS, i've already said this before..both are not the same
movies use "Motion Blur" that's why eventho it's 24fps u see it as normal, if u pause the movie at a fast motion movement u'll see the blur.
STOP comparing games and movies fps...and u stop argue


Added on November 25, 2008, 5:23 pm
QUOTE(tech3910 @ Nov 25 2008, 04:33 PM)
well...........u still dun get my point.

v r not even on the same page.
i'm not saying u're wrong.

yes, 30fps compared to 60fps, u may b notice 30fps is slower.
no, even @ 25fps, dis frame rate is not QUALIFY 2 b consider as lag, yet.

kl tower compare to KLCC, kl tower is shorter, but dis doesn't conclude dat kl tower is consider as a short building.
i hope u get wat i mean............ smile.gif

best is 2experience it ur own.
assume dat u hav a ATI GC, run ATI tray tools which playing game. the fps will show up on the top right corner.
just play as u usually does, wen u starting to actually fell the lag, look @ the fps.

i've do dis countless times, & i can tell u dat wen i look @ the fps, it is 22 wen i actually fell something is lagging.


Added on November 25, 2008, 4:37 pm
those r not actually lag, may b its ghosting due to LCD slow respond time.
try using CRT or plasma tv, it'll flow smooth.

also, another thing dat i like 2 point out, people usually tek this wrongly.
example, a game is running @ average 30fps & it fells lag sometime, therefore 30fps is consider not enough.
the actually thing dat happen is, may b the game is running @ max 35fps, min 20fps & average 30fps.
v only fell the lag on those ~20fps part.
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if u cant tell the difference between 30 and 60fps and also 100fps u need to get eyecheck..
no offence.

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post Nov 25 2008, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Nov 25 2008, 05:24 PM)
haish....stop it...
so if my frame rate is 24fps and it maintain dat way, i would call that smooth...
but if d fps jump up and down and stutter, dat what i call lag...
just continue r...
no need fight2 bout fps...
i've seen many threads fighting d same topic...
aiyooo...
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24fps smooth? a disgrace to gamers. or in fps games, free frag lol.
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