maysee82,

thanks for sharing so much experience with us. it proof that u done a lot of survey in pantyhose. I would say that i'm kind of person who r more into feeling. i wore pantyhose because i like the silky smooth feeling between my legs. Especially when i wear it under long jeans or pants, it feel very good. good quality really make different, i'll choose pantyhose which has cotton crotch on it because can skip panties, but i'll wear panties over pantyhose if no cotton crotch on pantyhose.

Rikrik,

"I would say that i'm kind of person who r more into feeling... "

I completely agreed with that 200% , I think we got past the resistant level of sweaty ~ too hot, small size ,constant runs blah blah blah with all those excuse why "pantyhose should be banned at all cost".. To me, yes, it feels good, makes my leg more attractive and pretty too, even send a few man out sweating..

Many ladies also had poor experience that probably drives them to avoid wearing pantyhose altogether. Also like to attribute the root cause to many local businesses that markets the hose, completely lack of knowledge from sales person, or having a sales person that hardly good experience wearing one at all. So, how to even sell and convince customer is a good buy ?

Irony is, even guys are enjoying that feel good factor while many gals are shunning it.

Just watch a re-run of Lara Croft- Tomb Raider, her rugged adventure outfit is kind of cool , I am thinking , pair the short with sheer glossy hose , oversize boots and white socks. Top it up with sporty bra, leave the oversize shirt unbutton to reveal some cleavage ,, so cool.. feminine from the inside and yet feels the power from the outside.

Last statement will sure send a few man reading this thread out sweating ....

So, guys & gals, any nice hose wearing ideas to share. ?

ms

This post has been edited by maysee82: Apr 23 2010, 07:45 PM

Good to hear that both maysee and rikrik are both pantyhose lovers

Does anyone notice that somehow this is a cycle that will never end -
(i) Most women don't have the chance to own/wear/try on a pair of good quality hosiery, resulting in bad experience such as too hot, small size, constant run as mentioned above. Cheap hosiery comes in one size but there are women with different sizes and height, there's no such thing as free-size as it will not fit properly at all.
(ii) Bad experiences lead to hatred, disgusted with pantyhose resulting in low demand of pantyhose on the market. Who wants to wear them if it's such a troublesome attire/accessories to add on?
(iii) Low demand means no retailers will bring in better quality hosiery to the country; to save cost, cheap hosiery made in china were imported instead and the purpose is just to cater to the small population who were forced to wear them as part of their dress code. Now those who need it for their dress code have no choice, these are the only ones available/easily obtained from the market.
(iv) It's back to step one again, most women will never be able to experience the wonders of good quality, properly designed hosiery.
See, that's the never ending cycle that will eventually bring death to this fashion that we love.

Unless someone decided to step up and do something like bring in good quality hosiery, promote them aggressively in a positive way, or perhaps a start a big scale revolution until 'lights shine upon the dying fashion'.

BTW, what do you gals think about girls wearing shorts with black tights paired with converse or flats/pumps (quite common nowadays)??
Something like this -
Well, I asked my gf about it and she said it's not nice at all. She said tights should be worn with a proper dress instead and not shorts/pants.

I was thinking, for guys if you want to wear it out, just do it! Don't have to worry about what others think. And it's not like you're acting like a sissy when you're having them on. We have to change the mindset, remember, men have legs too.
To me, it's just another type of clothing, meant to be unisex. You can probably start by wearing opaque masculine colours (black, dark brown, navy blue) as part of your sporting attire, eg, jogging as they provide support and improve blood circulation when you run. Then can try pairing up with cargo pants with a proper pair of shoes, sporty shoes should be okay.This is just my opinion. Any comments or other suggestions??

@evilhomura,

hose lover ? I doubt that..

on the example, depends on taste, I thought it was quite ok. In fact, some of my after work hour outings, to movies/ mall shopping, happened to be just like that with daytime sheer working hose, of course, shedding the formal skirt/suits.

I could be wrong on this, opaque caught on locally maybe is due to the strength of it, does not run that easily and practical enough, of course media influence from korea/taiwan/hk/japan, even some local 8tv host during some talent show, also wear this combination. Maybe hose manufacturer has done something to help drying up the sweat, else thick opaque tights probably more suited to cooler climate (going genting ?). Even with sheer style hosiery, I still can feel sweaty at times.

Shorts with fishnet is probably nice too. if not black, skin color fishnet is not a bad idea. I have seen some design with very fine net. But I am still stick to my support style..sorry
I stumbled upon this site
http://www.danskin.com/legwear-dance.html
Hosiery for dancer, they have some fishnets too. I knew dancer are very rough with their clothing and to be able to withstand that wear and tear should be quite durable type. Only thing it was not mentioned, cotton crotch design. I was tempted with their footed hosiery range, the convertible design is a pretty neat idea.

Anyway, I could be wrong about the opaque as just fashion trend and hype.

On 1 thing I totally agreed, it is very classy (outright sexy) to be on little black dress and black pantyhose, any pattern at all , opaque, sheer or even fishnets. The only caveat is, you need to have decent bodies too.

I was in this formal wedding dinner, a few years ago, this lady into 40s, petite but very good shape was wearing figure hugging LBD, but no hose at all , to rub more salt to the wounds, there were even a few patches of spider vein visible, really a let down. Even slipping on a pair of sheer hose, spray on air stockings could help, but no . A bit like a authentic Mona Lisa painting that uses a cheap plastic frame.

If your gf dislikes hosiery, perhaps you should entice her with wolford as birthday gift, and send her to read my suggestions. I have good feeling she will change her mind and dress to feel good than to be dictated by what outside fashion trend says is good or bad.

ms

This post has been edited by maysee82: Apr 24 2010, 09:50 PM

I've just tried the Marks and Spencer 10 denier Matt Look Tights - http://www.marksandspencer.com/Pairs-Denie...h=n%3A341278031
It's quite loose (no-support) compared to the hosiery that I've had, it feels like i'm not wearing it at all as it is very sheer (10 denier). The quality is not as good as expected though. I think it's good for hot/humid weather, but I'm selling it cause I didn't really like it and the colour is too light for my darker skin.
Anyone interested to get them at cheaper than retail price? There's still 4 new pairs left - http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1401710&hl=

Just a random question, but how high up does everyone wear their tights? Up to where? Hip? Belly button/navel? Mid stomach? Or right underneath the breast?

This post has been edited by evilhomura89: Apr 26 2010, 10:43 AM

@evilhumora,
I was looking at the link to M & S, they have a range the goes by the name "bare cooling" It has Polyurethane as one of the fibre.. that is something pretty new to me. But it is a bit too dear at about 4-5 pounds /pair. Very light denier range too, a bit doubtful about the durability. But review from customer said that it is cooling for summer wear. I do wish they have higher denier range in future with support too.

Support hose I bought usually has higher content of lycra, makes it very stretchable, also has appearance of shiny look. Hanes is like 27% lycra at leg region. Leggs did not indicate , also appears shiny a bit. My older stock of cosmetic hose, the cheapo ones, like ~5%, appear matt look and very thin.

I usually has it up to waist line only, sometimes I folded it down. The hose size I got is usually one size larger. I am curious why would anyone wear it up so high ?

ms

i went through an Europe pantyhose website reviews. http://www.tightsfashion.co.uk/index.html inside there, they reviews almost all kind of pantyhose brand in europe market. after i tried europe brand, i won't look at local pantyhose anymore.

"I am curious why would anyone wear it up so high ?", this is because sometime if didn't pull up high, it tend to slip of, and when wearing without panties, it feel like unprotected...

This post has been edited by Rikrik: Apr 27 2010, 12:01 PM

Interesting discussion.I concur that a pair of shapely pantyhosed leg will surely draw some eyebrows from man.

@applecream,
welcome to this thread, yeah, I am daily hose wearer out of necessity for my job . Good quality pair of properly size and fit pantyhose certainly enhances the wearing experience , I did a long winded write up earlier if you like to check it up.
I am not so much into fashion trend, but more of wearing experience sharing , I usually prefers support style that gave me some compression effect and ache relief.

About the magic on man, no doubt about it , I went to Hooters before with male co-workers during a trip overseas. You should see their reactions.

Even a few guys here also enjoying the experience of having a nice pair of hose on their legs too.

@Rikrik,
Yeah, that is given. I usually did not experience slipping down like I had with those undersized cheapo and when I skipped panties, it clings on well to my skin. I like to fold the top down to conceal it, at times my shirt ride up, or become un-tugged, I just did not like to reveal the top too, be it panties or top of pantyhose.

ms

This post has been edited by maysee82: Apr 27 2010, 08:28 PM

More on comfort and I like the smooth feeling of a pair of good hosiery on my legs. I am alost a 24 hours wearer.

Maysee82 and evilhomura89, for M&S, you should check out the 40 denier pantyhose, I think they cost about RM60 upwards for 3 pairs...very nice quality and durable. It comes in a pack of 3.

I wear it up to waist. I think it will tends to roll down if you wear it from anywhere above waist.

ANother question for the crowd here. Has anyone tried wearing stockings with garter belt for a day?
I wear it few times, well...I got to say the experience is interesting. No big movement as I worried the garter belt might snap off. And the stockings starr rolling down. Later I discovered that a good garter belt, those with metal clasp, and of 6-8 straps, would actually prevent this. However, I think I will stick to the pantyhose, course I like the feeling of pair of pantyhose wrapping my waist area.

Rikrik, that is a good website. Some American brand is equally good as well, i.e. Hanes & Leggs as mentioned by maysee82. I realised that some affordable brands from Europe and American are pretty good quality, and not necessary you must go for those high end brands. Which is different from Malaysia. You almost certain need to pay a bomb to get a decent pair.

Hmm...went to the M&S in MidValley Gardens but I don't remember seeing anything like what you've mentioned.
I saw their 60d tights though - 3 pairs for RM69. And most of it having 10-15d only.

Yes, that's the one. My mistake, it is 6od. It's a bargain comparing to those cheap hosiery from other brand. This M&S can last you for a while.
Talking about cheap brand, I happen to have few pairs of grey colour pantyhose sold in Guardian. Quite smooth, and the colour looks nice under light. I saw a sales lady wearing it, so went ahead to ask her where she got it. She's quite happy to tell me, and I guess I'm lucky of not getting a slap on the face or weird look

What brand are those? Guardian home brand?
Ooo..interesting experience

BTW, anyone here have wolford hosiery? Which one?
I'm thinking of getting my 1st pair...but I don't know which one to choose. Recommendation?
1. Wolford Fatal 50 Seamless Tights
2. Wolford Miss W Tights
3. Wolford Velvet De Luxe 50 Tights
4. Wolford Velvet De Luxe 66

This post has been edited by evilhomura89: Apr 28 2010, 02:12 AM

Yup Guardian home brand...

Definitely go for Fatal 50.
I have Fatal 50 and Velvent Deluxe in black, and few pairs of Satin in few shades (the Satin is considered the more affordable Wolford). The Satin is flat seam, and it feels so comfortable.

Try Fogal as well...I read that Gerbe is as good as Wolford, but cheaper.

Kinda feeling strange, two guys talking about hosiery.

appearance wise which one has a smoother appearance and feel?
this time i'm getting it via uktights and i'm asking a friend to bring it back

"Kinda feeling strange, two guys talking about hosiery."

Well, carry on, or you can always PM each other if things get too intimate ..

This is what freedom of expression is all about. As I am reading it, I am feeling my knowledge on pantyhose brand was actually very very limited ..

Fogal, Gerbe,Wolford M&S..

I guess it is a bit of tragic too , for me, as a lady actually knew less about what is available out there for me . My experience from start was not a nice one, just that circumstances made me went around looking hard and the actually improved my experience.

Maybe this is an opportunity for guys too, if your lady friend/wife is showing sign of hating pantyhose, perhaps you can take note of the brand and surprise her as a gift. As for ladies, try a few pair nicer quality pantyhose , your perception about pantyhose will change drastically.

As for gnoelhot & evilhumora, how about the experience on those brand designed for man, like comfilon that you mentioned early ? Care to let the ladies know about the difference of male pantyhose ? We love to know too..

(updated)..
Stumbled upon this from Taiwanese site..

http://www.youleg.com.tw/html/front/bin/pt...Category=298429

For the benefit of those not knowing what "cotton crotch" design

"reinforced heel and toe"


The RHT usually gives a better lower leg support too. At 120D, I think this pair will last 3 months of hard wearing .


ms

This post has been edited by maysee82: Apr 28 2010, 09:35 AM

Hi to all of you, it's been long time I didn't visit to this topic, seem like recently this topic is going quite fast and a lot of people involve at here. Hi maysee82, nice to meet you, I also wearing pantyhose daily and even my company didn't require us to wear it, but i feel uncomfortable when going bare legs without puting any hose, so whenerver I go out with skirt or short pants, pantyhose is a must for me. As for those guys who are talking about the pantyhose, I think it is nothing strange especially right now out there got a lot of male pantyhose for you to choose, just at Malaysia I haven't see any shop selling this male pantyhose at the moment. As for the male pantyhose compare to female one, I think I can give you some clues about it because I have been purchased it before for my husband. For male one, I think the size is bigger than female one for sure, and other than that, I can't see any different unless like those male pantyhose got fly opening type one. maysee82, where did you use to buy those good quality pantyhose?

This post has been edited by silkygirl: Apr 28 2010, 11:32 AM

Don't worry!
At least your knowledge are above average compared to other girls

Haven't tried the activskin comfilon yet
It's kinda hard to obtain locally or regionally
The price of the pantyhose alone is not cheap and if postage is included, the price is skyhigh...

@silkygirl,
Nice knowing you, I was lucky enough to travel to US a few times. I bought Hanes Alive , Leggs Active support, (~U$6-9) recommended to me by US airline flight attendant. I also had a flight attendant friend sold me 2 pairs of Kolotex (sheer relief) before, bought from Target Australia. A$7-9. (this brand package actually has 2 flight attendant !!).

The hose is somewhat lasting with proper care. I bought them in outlet store. I do not believe they are the best, just that I found out they are fairly comfortable compare to those available locally, comes standard with cotton crotch design and I usually skip undies, more cooling and less sweaty in our weather.

http://www.onehanesplace.com/cgi-bin/ncomm...gnbr=5081000000

http://www.onehanesplace.com/product/3013....gnbr=5051000000

I also found out that someone around this forum also selling them. Try stuff for ladies..

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1109620?hl=hanes

Price listed in one-hanes-place usually is cheaper and slightly imperfect. I am not too trendy or adventurous with fancy designed hosiery but usually opted for sheer skin tone support pantyhose. It seemed that the guys here knew much better than me on what brand is good or what is great.. geezz.. I have a lot to learn..

I only shared my journey on how to make it good experience in wearing one, pass few years have been "bare leg" , but due to company dress code, I ended wearing them on daily basis , tried out various cheap cosmetic hose (I coined the term because it is good when is new, do not last well) . I ended up liking support style hosiery, less tiring leg at the end of day. How about you ? Any nice experience to share, tips to make it nice ? Hose for your hubby too ? Cool !

my previous long write up...
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/785367/+285

ms

hmm? evilhomura u r a guy?? lols..i thought u r a girl..but oh well..it good to try one as well..