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maysee82
post Apr 13 2010, 12:16 PM

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I am new here, I was reading the thread with interesting feeling. I like to share my experience and I am not selling hosiery for living.

Some wanted fancy looking tights,some thought of it as passing trend, too hot and humid for our country, mostly for the sake of fashion,some thinking of it as business, as for me, is more of necessity . I wear pantyhose on daily basis, it was troublesome initially , some younger colleague even thought of wearing skin color hose as being old lady. Wearing pantyhose as professional wardrobe is more like dying arts.

In my late 20s, few years ago, I took on job involves in consulting and marketing. Where I was on my feet most of the time. Company has guidelines of female staff wearing hosiery all the time, and no exception, matching dark suit pants or skirt, knee length. As for hosiery, only two colors allow, black or skin tone and no other color, no fancy looking patterns, we meet customers almost on daily basis. I know some of you boys out there must be fantasizing about OL, don;t even think about that.

Initially was quite a nag, I used to buy cheap brand that ripped easily. At some stage, keeping an extra pair in my handbag was never enough, I also avoid black color pantyhose and opted for skin color, in case it runs, at least not too obvious. Price and brand do make a big different.

I was fortunate enough to have opportunity to travel to US a few times, where I bought some US brand (no wolford and anything pricey o designer ), I bought Hanes Alive support and Leggs active support, around U$7 a pair. It was very lasting, and interestingly, it is where I discovered benefit of support hosiery. Being on my feet all the time can be very helpful wearing support pantyhose, it hugs the leg very well and make you feel less tiring. Only 1 warning, it took some effort to pull them on, believe me..

Incidentally, I got to know some flight attendant while in US, they were the one recommended Hanes support to me. I also asked a flight attendant friend before, she sold me Kolotex shear relief from Australia, she and her colleague using it all the time. It was quite good, very lasting , and compress leg well at lower ankle region. Actually, Kolotex relief packaging cover features two flight attendants !

I usually dislike very high heels, (~ 2inches), worn with support hose, quite refreshing even at the end of the day, , much less tiring leg. An important reminder is, support hose comes in sizes, you need to know well about the right size when buying them, the cheap brand that claims one size/free size fits all never worked, one size over is usually ok.Good quality durable pantyhose usually has higher spandex content, makes it more stretchable.

The second part of the story, hot and humid. That is how I noticed the design of pantyhose from overseas, it has nice special crotch design between two legs , those cheap brand made locally usually lacked that feature and ripped between legs easily. There were some brand that comes with knitted panty pattern, yes, it was supposed to be worn without panties , at least I never believed that before I was told by the flight attendant friend (please don't get wrong idea about flight attendant). In hot humid condition, yeast infection usually thrives in moist environment. The best is leave them ventilated without extra panties in between, sorry guys, it's about female hygene education time. Wearing panties below also leave the pantyhose to slide down much more easily,yes, pantyhose worn in direct contact skin makes it stay up much better . Some ladies complain a lot about after lunch, pantyhose is almost down to knees, makes walking difficult.

Many ladies, myself included used to think that pantyhose was like a pair of sock to be worn before flying out of the door, actually, the best way to wear pantyhose is before even wearing anything, best done in front of full length mirror, seated prperly . Usually not properly pull up or twisted leg makes it uncomfortable to wear. I used to struggle pulling my hose obscured by skirt, after sometimes, tearing it instead. I realized that some effort is usually needed to roll the leg part and pull it up properly to cover the body, after that do a thorough inspection in mirror front. To me, I began to appreciate the benefit of pantyhose only when I managed to wear them properly and tried out decent quality .Even with suit pants, I usually prefer support pantyhose over knee hi, knee-hi left nasty looking marks after full day of wearing.

Pantyhose for me is more than just cosmetic feature to conceal imperfection or wardrobe formality, it gives me nice feel of support and comfort too. When I travel, it provided extra layer of warmth.

As for the brave man that resorted to wearing pantyhose, I have nothing but praise, yes, you are free to wear anything you like, for your own benefit.

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maysee82
post Apr 14 2010, 07:29 PM

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gnoelhot,
thx for your kind compliments & PM. I have come across some pantyhose designed for man "anatomy" while surfing net, so it said, you might want to check it out. Try google "comfilon", or collanto, ..

kelly,
my little secret, blush.gif I did that too in the past and was still way too hot and constrictive, not to mention visible PL , until I got those cotton crotch design ones and decided to try it .
Sad that the cheaper local brand & collection seems to lack that feature..completely,, even though it is needed most here in tropic climate..also,it seemed to completely missed the point of being "support", some of it are just too under-size ! Makes it easy to rip and slide down. Costing more $$ and worry .
Not that I did not like local brand, they completely undo themselves not understanding customer need, putting off those really wanting to buy them. Having said that, many bought from china and just re-brand, those cosmetic hoses are cheap and ok, usually sold in dozen.
But for me, having it easily ripped and run is the last thing to worry about when meeting my customers.

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post Apr 15 2010, 10:50 AM

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evilhomura89,

I am in a good mood to write a bit,,

Nice site you got there, way to go on your cause to drive trend for pantyhose wearing man.

interestingly, I think earlier trend of exposing legwear covered legs were from men (robinhood in green tights?!), women worn gown that covered everything. Just that the hemline got higher and women started exposing leg and pantyhose become a piece of practical garment to covered the legs, more of climatic reason, that's why invention came from west instead, also during the prime time of mini-skirt fashion.

It 's good that you admired ladies that appreciate dressing up the legs, but be wary of too directly telling her (those around you or strangers)..an advice from a woman, hehe , sometime it may invite unexpected consequences, unless you are truly close to her to be able to compliment or criticize her, or else take a few short glance (for your eye pleasure) and just give her smiling of approval. tongue.gif

I noticed recent year of pantyhose trend came mostly from entertainment media, a lot of ladies just wear shorts with black tights (opaque pantyhose), "gossip girls" also helped quite a bit. No wonder someone posted here "as passing trend". That was quite a valid comment.

Also, some local specialty shop that sells hosiery also not too motivated to market their products. I have been to a few shops before, the sales person also do not know well about their product knowledge, whenever I asked for those support style/strength, or those with special crotch design, they were completely clueless. Also, for business owner, why not give the sales lady a few pairs and ask her to wear it while selling the product.. but too stingy, she wear "slipper and jeans". Sorry , I kind of bad mouth many local biz a lot..

On "troublesome, stereotyping" ,even I faced same kind of problem from ladies too, when I asked for skin /tan color pantyhose, once a sales lady that tried to sell me some fancy design tights told me it looked like old lady to wear skin color hosiery. I nearly wanted to slap her right there. She obviously has not seen a Hot Hooter girl before.

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post Apr 15 2010, 06:37 PM

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If I remember correctly, Hoot** girl is wearing those. Some of those are footless. I have not tried them before. My own supply of Han** and Leg**, still a lot, and quite lasting too with proper care.

1 thing I do notice that even the brand I am wearing did not appear glossy, but when photo taken of me with flash, it did show up the glossy look like you mentioned. The lycra content is quite high, I think that is what making it shine. The punishing thing about wearing hose in Malaysia is weather, hot and humid , going way too thick really put me off . Support style hose that is both sheer and strong is hard to come by. I got stuck on it more of necessity and health, standing on my job a lot.

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I had to blank out some trade name, cos I did not want to appear like promoting certain brand name or condemn it, maybe in violation of forum rules.
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post Apr 16 2010, 12:10 PM

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@Rikrik,
If you feel good about it, feel comfortable with it. Just wear it have a great time in your outings.

If you are daring enough to wear it , those wanting to dress like you will sure ask you where did you get them from, how does it feel ? Soon, you will be leading the trend.

@evilhomura89,
Thank you on the info about Gunze, will check that one out when time to top up my inventory.
I came across this brand "relaxsan", I kind of like the design of the back, extra padding, and also the heel feature , usually the extra heel design is the one providing support, kolotex has this design and I somewhat like it.

http://image.rakuten.co.jp/aimere/cabinet/...img55491737.jpg

Only thing is,not cheap onwards of U$20, but has accurate pressure value.

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post Apr 16 2010, 08:17 PM

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@gnoelhot,
ya, I do, but not very often, only occasional night outings . I happen to buy a pair of stockings designed for garter, that do not have elastic band around it. I am not too fond of knee-hi, or stay up because it leaves nasty mark end of the day, though it is more comfortable to be in stocking due to our weather . I did not see those without the elastic band type on sale locally..

I made a mistake (maybe) of getting a corset with garter (good quality with metal clips) ,but quite hot for work wear, also quite visible for with lighter color blouse or shirt, not feeling too comfortable with over elaborate lingerie under work cloth when meeting customer.

Having said that, it actually made you stand/sit with very nice posture, keeping the body and back straight ,some push up effect too. I worn to wedding dinner before, it prevented me from eating too much.

Geez, why am I even sharing this with a guy ? Well, I just hope that you do not go out and buy an expensive one and forced your gf to wear to work.. that is really bad..

For the benefit of ladies reading this, it is actually better to wear the undies over the belt,rather than below ,like those advertised on picture (do not know why they did that), actually more convenient for toilet visit. matter of opinion.
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@Rikrik,
I am sure it will catch on, even if it does not, if you feel good about wearing it, just wear it and spread the good news if anyone happen to ask. As for those standing at the side lines and only has negative comments, just tell them, it feels so good they do not know what they have been missing out. Probably some do not even has a pair in their closet, or buying the cheapo one and suffered like I did before..

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Talked about dejavu- I was reading another forum -- in my previous post about my preference for skin color hose, and the sales lady told me it was for old lady.. I was fuming..

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1359029
(without intention of condemnation, probably that person posted the short comment too, was a victim of the same sales lady .. smile.gif )
one of the person in there actually posted, she tot wearing pantyhose was for old lady ...
I did the poll and stated my reasoning. Another person came along and thought it was a blessing she need not to face the same kind of requirement on dressing, like me,having to wear proper suit and hose. I already has a nice answer for that.

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post Apr 17 2010, 05:44 AM

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Thank you all for the heaps of praise on my opinions, I thought I just shared about the benefit of wearing support hose with how to wear them with comfort , I used to despise the fact the my choice of dresses was limited by my job, but as it turned out more like blessing , I save a good deal of $ of having to refresh my working wardrobe all year around and, instead invested in better quality support hose to help me in my job , am I getting lesser of attention ? Not really, my appearance sometime even invite negative attention too, like an OL ( I know what you boys out are thinking about..sometimes I did get freaky stare too ) .. but a little personal adventure, experiments and reading goes a long way to make the experience works in my favor.

Now, I am overloaded with many brand name options to think about, Charnos, Oroblu, Gunze, Pretty Polly, .. and many many more. Now I see that I know too little, need to learn even more. And the best part is, I am learning them from guys, come on gals, throw in some experience too, you little good practices that can help make the experience better , we can certainly do much more better.. smile.gif

@gnoelhot,
Thanks for the flattering PM. Thanks for the funky ideas about two layers.. will keep that in mind for fancy dress event.

@evilhomura ,
It's just a piece of garment women can freely wear, but fewer ladies are wearing them these days . Guys are screaming out to wear them in open with public acceptance but afraid of being laughed at . Guess we are in the minority as society outcast ,, smile.gif
I am sure there are ways you can help it become mainstream..

This is an article about compression tights and how it aids runner in controlling muscle fatigue..

http://www.runningplanet.com/training/comp...ce-runners.html

Maybe pick up running as exercise, wear your support hose out in open, or even cycling , or hiking.. when being asked, just share your experience with them.

When I read this article about a year ago, it reminded me of the swim suit that covered the whole body, those looked like ladies swim wear in supermarket , now helping the man swimmer to break all the swimming records, until the governing body almost wanted to ban it,, if the male swimmer were still stuck in old swimming trunk, none of the new world record would have been possible, progress of the world is usually shaped by those refused to be conventional and defy status quo.

amazing isn't it.. sorry,, story side track quite a bit..

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post Apr 18 2010, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(gnoelhot @ Apr 17 2010, 12:20 PM)
By the way, how often do you wear hose? I wear it at home and to sleep.
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Usually for work only, occasionally after work outings where I kept them on even with casual clothes , for movies or shopping mall, with lots of walking .
I do not like to wear my work clothes on after hour outings. At home, no, to bed even less unless , only when traveled and for added warmth in cold country.

@evilhumura
I must admit that, when I searched around internet for information related to pantyhose, I saw a good number of men actually wearing it and proudly posted their images on web. It did freak me out a bit. Maybe general perception of relating pantyhose wearing to transvestite kind of thinking still lingering around general public. Same thing happened to ladies many years back when wearing pants was an absolute taboo. Eventually that was overcome.

Like the same type of problem I am facing now, "Wearing skin color hose made me look like old lady".. yeah I can relate to that, but ,keep at it as long as you feel good about it and it brings you benefit.

I have had many ladies asking me about my hose and I managed to convince them why I am willing to pay more and for better quality, special designed hose that I can forgo the panties to overcome the hot and humid condition, yeah, it did freak them out too at the beginning, but after that , it's pretty normal already. Perhaps for man, that kind intimate level chit chat is hard to come by , lady and lady can talk about what brand of bras they are wearing, but for guys to talk about what brand of boxer shorts/brief they are wearing over coffee break is almost never, I guess.

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post Apr 20 2010, 10:35 AM

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-(giggle),

the couple pictured in e-mencipate.net looked kind of cute. wink.gif , pretty nice hunk too..

Now that you mentioned that, I do believe probably many guys do love a pair of beautiful legs, even better if wrapped in hose in well revealed manner like short skirt, or shorts . Many ladies just loved those designs posted on earlier postings, fancy designs are cooled to have. Though myself not a big fan of it. I did notice on a few occasions, I went outing after works with my bf, when wearing shorts, he did to run his hand on my hose covered leg .. maybe there is this "in-thing" in many men, a bit fetish like. Now that I am thinking, if I can get a pair of those hose for him as gift, it can be a playful suggestion to ask him to wear it while going out with me. I am a big fan of "couple-dress", couple dressed alike. icon_idea.gif

One thing for sure, I knew well about effect of black pantyhose, I usually opted for skin color,a good friend, my co-worker , her hosiery is usually is usually black, opaque or sheer, she did command good attention from men at times, especially while doing presentation with me at the side watching. Even some man stared at her from head to toe from time to time. Any ladies reading this, care to comment ?

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post Apr 22 2010, 07:14 PM

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This is another long winded rant..

@Rikrik,

Haha! I think I am not so much into hose , to the extent of fixated with it to have a fetish. So happen that, out of necessity, I need to wear them. It was not a comfortable feeling, sweaty, having runs , twisted legs, falling down when you are face to face with customers, to me , the sentiment of wearing pantyhose was not a great one at the beginning . Through many researches, readings , trials and errors, opened to different opinions. I arrived at a comfortable solution and methods of wearing them. That being, maybe repeating what I said earlier .. (to the benefit to vanilla girls if you are thinking of wearing one, as for guys, sorry about feminine undertone at times.)

-Get a good pair of hose, price do matter. The return is, more reliable and less prone to run and fail , less worry, less embarrassment too. Imagine that if the same happens to your bra kept falling off , off balance ?

-A support one helps relief your aching active leg, it holds to your leg well and does not slip very easily. If you have to stand a lot, walk a lot or seated for long hour. Support or compression hose will always make you feel better after the fact, with improved blood circulation, simple as that. Do not simply go for those medical-compression style unless you have condition that needs that.

-Balance between sheerness and strength, too sheer may not have enough support
and strength. Lack of sheer may mean too thick for comfort (humid & hot). That's why, younger ladies today likes opaque hosiery with shorts,or fancy patterns, I felt is more like passing trend, , many will just abandon it to go back to bare look once the season is over, especially if their hose wearing experience was not a great one.
Whereas wearing sheer style to improve dress formality is more timeless (spared the stupid "old lady" comment) , even if company casual rule allows ripped jeans, no harm slipped into a pair sheer black pantyhose under it , or even fishnet ;P )

-Hot & Humid , avoid underwear when needs to be in and out of air-con/outside. Get those with cotton crotch/lining design. That also avoid VPL. I usually avoid sheer to waist because I go without panties. (I keep my modesty on guard at all time). I am always under the impression that, sheer to waist is good for very short skirt, usually with safety pants and panties , to prevent the darker looking part from showing.I could be wrong.

-Avoid sharp jewelery and keep well polished trimmed nails to avoid cut and tear while putting them on. Just common sense.

-Pantyhose is to be put on in the privacy of your own room, put them on when you have no clothes on, properly seated and not standing and hopping to gain balance while trying to pull on your hose . If you think that pantyhose is just like socks to be put on before you slip on your shoes, your hose wearing experience will likely to be poor.
Have your hand into the hose , gather them all gently into bundle, take your hands out holding with both hands then slip them over your toe, gently pull them up to waist level . In that way, I usually avoided twist and turn. Also, with nothing on, it's easier to pull and even out the pressures without need to fight with obscured view of falling skirt. It usually take less than a minute for me to do that, much less effort than previously thought.

-Right size, better quality hose has size, free size hosiery is only good for those average size, if you are taller, get the right size. Overly big or too small will not make the experience any good. I spend like 8-9 hours wearing it, I need to feel real good.

-If you leg is less slim, avoid bright colored hosiery. Opt for darker hose, it gives an illusion of slimmer look. For me, I usually avoided black hose so that a run would not show up easily.

-Keep a small bottle cheap clear nail polish, it can repair any holes and stop runs. It did magic many times for me.

Wearing them after work only limited to mall shopping and movies. Remember how I go with just pantyhose without undies , my after work casual wear usually is T-shirt & shorts (mid-tight length, capri), I kept them on for comfort and modesty. Usually I like a pair of trainer with socks over my hose (A bit of hooter girl look minus the tight and tiny shorts.... er..hm). Yes I have been to that restaurant with male colleague before and I could see how a nice looking pair of legs wrapped inside hosiery can cast a magic spell on man's attention. To us, it's just a piece of garment, seriously, and nothing more.

Rare occasion I wear them at home, Only once/twice I had it on while traveling, when going to bed, the weather was sub-zero at night.

As for my bf, I think many guys also enjoyed the sensation of running their hand over the lady's leg, if you sit close enough during playful time, just that having your leg wrapped in a pair of smooth silky hose , enhances that feeling a lot. Having seen many guys also into wearing pantyhose, the playful suggestion is also a nice way out of closet for my bf, if and only if , one day I caught him wearing hose, or if he decides to come clean and confess to me he likes to wear hose , it will make that experience easier for him than just being a mental burden of how to hide from me or tell me openly.

I think I am more mentally prepare for that. I read in some forum, some wives caught their husband/bf wearing or confessed to the liking of hose, they almost freaked out . It will certainly strain the relationship.



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post Apr 23 2010, 07:43 PM

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Rikrik,

"I would say that i'm kind of person who r more into feeling... "

I completely agreed with that 200% , I think we got past the resistant level of sweaty ~ too hot, small size ,constant runs blah blah blah with all those excuse why "pantyhose should be banned at all cost".. To me, yes, it feels good, makes my leg more attractive and pretty too, even send a few man out sweating.. smile.gif

Many ladies also had poor experience that probably drives them to avoid wearing pantyhose altogether. Also like to attribute the root cause to many local businesses that markets the hose, completely lack of knowledge from sales person, or having a sales person that hardly good experience wearing one at all. So, how to even sell and convince customer is a good buy ?

Irony is, even guys are enjoying that feel good factor while many gals are shunning it.

Just watch a re-run of Lara Croft- Tomb Raider, her rugged adventure outfit is kind of cool , I am thinking , pair the short with sheer glossy hose , oversize boots and white socks. Top it up with sporty bra, leave the oversize shirt unbutton to reveal some cleavage ,, so cool.. feminine from the inside and yet feels the power from the outside.

Last statement will sure send a few man reading this thread out sweating .... tongue.gif

So, guys & gals, any nice hose wearing ideas to share. ?

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post Apr 24 2010, 09:47 PM

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@evilhomura,

hose lover ? I doubt that.. smile.gif

on the example, depends on taste, I thought it was quite ok. In fact, some of my after work hour outings, to movies/ mall shopping, happened to be just like that with daytime sheer working hose, of course, shedding the formal skirt/suits.

I could be wrong on this, opaque caught on locally maybe is due to the strength of it, does not run that easily and practical enough, of course media influence from korea/taiwan/hk/japan, even some local 8tv host during some talent show, also wear this combination. Maybe hose manufacturer has done something to help drying up the sweat, else thick opaque tights probably more suited to cooler climate (going genting ?). Even with sheer style hosiery, I still can feel sweaty at times.

Shorts with fishnet is probably nice too. if not black, skin color fishnet is not a bad idea. I have seen some design with very fine net. But I am still stick to my support style..sorry
I stumbled upon this site
http://www.danskin.com/legwear-dance.html
Hosiery for dancer, they have some fishnets too. I knew dancer are very rough with their clothing and to be able to withstand that wear and tear should be quite durable type. Only thing it was not mentioned, cotton crotch design. I was tempted with their footed hosiery range, the convertible design is a pretty neat idea.

Anyway, I could be wrong about the opaque as just fashion trend and hype.

On 1 thing I totally agreed, it is very classy (outright sexy) to be on little black dress and black pantyhose, any pattern at all , opaque, sheer or even fishnets. The only caveat is, you need to have decent bodies too.

I was in this formal wedding dinner, a few years ago, this lady into 40s, petite but very good shape was wearing figure hugging LBD, but no hose at all , to rub more salt to the wounds, there were even a few patches of spider vein visible, really a let down. Even slipping on a pair of sheer hose, spray on air stockings could help, but no . A bit like a authentic Mona Lisa painting that uses a cheap plastic frame. smile.gif

If your gf dislikes hosiery, perhaps you should entice her with wolford as birthday gift, and send her to read my suggestions. I have good feeling she will change her mind and dress to feel good than to be dictated by what outside fashion trend says is good or bad.

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post Apr 27 2010, 08:17 AM

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@evilhumora,
I was looking at the link to M & S, they have a range the goes by the name "bare cooling" It has Polyurethane as one of the fibre.. that is something pretty new to me. But it is a bit too dear at about 4-5 pounds /pair. Very light denier range too, a bit doubtful about the durability. But review from customer said that it is cooling for summer wear. I do wish they have higher denier range in future with support too.

Support hose I bought usually has higher content of lycra, makes it very stretchable, also has appearance of shiny look. Hanes is like 27% lycra at leg region. Leggs did not indicate , also appears shiny a bit. My older stock of cosmetic hose, the cheapo ones, like ~5%, appear matt look and very thin.

I usually has it up to waist line only, sometimes I folded it down. The hose size I got is usually one size larger. I am curious why would anyone wear it up so high ?

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post Apr 27 2010, 08:23 PM

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@applecream,
welcome to this thread, yeah, I am daily hose wearer out of necessity for my job . Good quality pair of properly size and fit pantyhose certainly enhances the wearing experience , I did a long winded write up earlier if you like to check it up.
I am not so much into fashion trend, but more of wearing experience sharing , I usually prefers support style that gave me some compression effect and ache relief.

About the magic on man, no doubt about it , I went to Hooters before with male co-workers during a trip overseas. You should see their reactions. tongue.gif

Even a few guys here also enjoying the experience of having a nice pair of hose on their legs too.

@Rikrik,
Yeah, that is given. I usually did not experience slipping down like I had with those undersized cheapo and when I skipped panties, it clings on well to my skin. I like to fold the top down to conceal it, at times my shirt ride up, or become un-tugged, I just did not like to reveal the top too, be it panties or top of pantyhose.

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post Apr 28 2010, 09:13 AM

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"Kinda feeling strange, two guys talking about hosiery."

Well, carry on, or you can always PM each other if things get too intimate .. smile.gif

This is what freedom of expression is all about. As I am reading it, I am feeling my knowledge on pantyhose brand was actually very very limited ..

Fogal, Gerbe,Wolford M&S..

I guess it is a bit of tragic too , for me, as a lady actually knew less about what is available out there for me . My experience from start was not a nice one, just that circumstances made me went around looking hard and the actually improved my experience.

Maybe this is an opportunity for guys too, if your lady friend/wife is showing sign of hating pantyhose, perhaps you can take note of the brand and surprise her as a gift. As for ladies, try a few pair nicer quality pantyhose , your perception about pantyhose will change drastically.

As for gnoelhot & evilhumora, how about the experience on those brand designed for man, like comfilon that you mentioned early ? Care to let the ladies know about the difference of male pantyhose ? We love to know too.. wink.gif

(updated)..
Stumbled upon this from Taiwanese site..

http://www.youleg.com.tw/html/front/bin/pt...Category=298429

For the benefit of those not knowing what "cotton crotch" design
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"reinforced heel and toe"
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The RHT usually gives a better lower leg support too. At 120D, I think this pair will last 3 months of hard wearing smile.gif.


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@silkygirl,
Nice knowing you, I was lucky enough to travel to US a few times. I bought Hanes Alive , Leggs Active support, (~U$6-9) recommended to me by US airline flight attendant. I also had a flight attendant friend sold me 2 pairs of Kolotex (sheer relief) before, bought from Target Australia. A$7-9. (this brand package actually has 2 flight attendant !!).

The hose is somewhat lasting with proper care. I bought them in outlet store. I do not believe they are the best, just that I found out they are fairly comfortable compare to those available locally, comes standard with cotton crotch design and I usually skip undies, more cooling and less sweaty in our weather.

http://www.onehanesplace.com/cgi-bin/ncomm...gnbr=5081000000

http://www.onehanesplace.com/product/3013....gnbr=5051000000

I also found out that someone around this forum also selling them. Try stuff for ladies..

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1109620?hl=hanes

Price listed in one-hanes-place usually is cheaper and slightly imperfect. I am not too trendy or adventurous with fancy designed hosiery but usually opted for sheer skin tone support pantyhose. It seemed that the guys here knew much better than me on what brand is good or what is great.. geezz.. I have a lot to learn.. smile.gif

I only shared my journey on how to make it good experience in wearing one, pass few years have been "bare leg" , but due to company dress code, I ended wearing them on daily basis , tried out various cheap cosmetic hose (I coined the term because it is good when is new, do not last well) . I ended up liking support style hosiery, less tiring leg at the end of day. How about you ? Any nice experience to share, tips to make it nice ? Hose for your hubby too ? Cool !

my previous long write up...
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/785367/+285

ms
maysee82
post Apr 28 2010, 08:47 PM

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@evilhumora,
Overseas trip for company is very hard to come by, sad.gif . I do wish anyone going can let me know.

Your last statement was very funny.. come to think of it, I do like oversize man shirt at times, does that make me a "crossdresser" also. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif (-giggle).

I found out from amazon, they/ or their supplier, do have Hanes alive online, you may need to find out if they ship international.

http://www.amazon.com/Hanes-Alive-Full-Sup...72455567&sr=8-1

I noticed that male wearer like yourself and gnoelhot, are pretty adventurous to tryout different brands to know their feel. For myself and probably other ladies that are more routine into wearing hose tend to stick to just certain brand we like. Those more of household name (maybe M&S, Leggs, Hanes ) tends to have more consistent quality, size and fit. We ended up liking it because of the feel and overall experience

Malaysia market is a bit cursed because of the weather. Secondly, it is dominated by few middle man (just guess) that hardly interested in helping customer experience knowing that there only few sellers out there, bringing only cheap brand that sells in "kilos", in a way, your thought of, vicious cycle kept going deeper and deeper to its own demise. Which is almost happening right now. Many brands not available to us, many of us just found out from internet.

That is why I saw that, when opaque comes in, suddenly many ladies like it (feels good to have hosiery hug to feet nicely) , those probably grown up never wear them before suddenly come across this new found feeling of comfort, in addition to the reliability too because it did not run and snag too easily, if they even had lousy experience of run and snag in the past wearing those sheer cheapo. Even some helped the demise by calling it old-lady hosiery, such negative marketing is the last we need. Only entertainment was helping the trend. Only worry I have is, opaque tend to be thick and less ventilated, the moment trend goes away, it will drag everything with it.

It is good that guys pick up this trend too and there are supplier out there are filling the void, because it is really a practical piece of outfit for anyone at all. I only read from Steve's blog, the male design tends to be more durable even for sheer. I am also thinking about buying comfilon online should my own supply ran out. All that I look for is the consistent and durable quality.
Having a lousy pair of hose could be like betrayal, always run when you need it most..

ms

This post has been edited by maysee82: Apr 28 2010, 08:54 PM
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post Apr 29 2010, 08:15 AM

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wao ! suddenly this quiet forum was buzzing with people.

Anyway, I do hope those lurking around and read do get some idea, why many perceived wearing hose as dying art, while there are still some die hard follower.

For those hardworking people on their feet all day long, or seated for long hours. You should make an effort to try out support hosiery, more for long term leg health. I stumbled upon it by chance and I am enjoying it. Start with a good pair and work your way to find the suitable brand and fit.
(I hope I am being not perceived as spreading pseudo-science) . This is nice write up about varicose vein..
http://www.veindirectory.org/content/prevention.asp

wearing hose is also my little investment on leg health.

I usually ignored those sideline commentators like the journalist predicting demise of pantyhose, also help spreading the old-lady syndrome on sheer style hosiery . Many was predicting end of the world in 2000, 2007, 2008, now 2012.. I think after 2012, pantyhose will still be around. smile.gif

(updated --
came across this from china-

http://doyeah.com/cgi-bin/shop/switch.cgi?..._view&item=0847

25% lycra.. should give very smooth feeling
At about RMB29 ~ RM15, anyone ever bought from this china supplier.. Brand is "Naier"

ms

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post May 2 2010, 12:30 AM

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@kirashin,

Really ? Buying it online or is there any shop selling them ?

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post May 2 2010, 09:21 AM

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@Kirashin

Any range that is for support purpose ? I usually like the support style because it hugs on well to my leg, and tends to last longer. I also go for 1 size larger to put less strain on the elasticity of the fiber. Beauty about slight larger support hose is, you will never feel slipping down due to undersized . Not to mention added benefit of less painful leg at the end of the day.

ms

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