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Home Theatre LCD and Plasma TV Discussion Thread | V3, Which is right for you?

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arremie
post Sep 25 2008, 12:32 PM

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Add a bit more and get Panasonic TX-32LX800MK. 100Hz good for gaming smile.gif
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post Sep 25 2008, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(arremie @ Sep 25 2008, 12:32 PM)
Add a bit more and get Panasonic TX-32LX800MK. 100Hz good for gaming smile.gif
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Hi guys, im trying to get a native 1080p LCD screen, budget is max RM4200, for a room. No more no less... Min 37" Is this somehow possible ?

As in it must be 1920x1080... Any brand will suffice... Appreciate all you sifu's feedback smile.gif




Thanks in advance
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post Sep 25 2008, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(arremie @ Sep 25 2008, 12:32 PM)
Add a bit more and get Panasonic TX-32LX800MK. 100Hz good for gaming smile.gif
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ok..thx..guess i'll need to save more money then . smile.gif

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arremie
post Sep 25 2008, 12:58 PM

hmm...
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QUOTE(mAzTT @ Sep 25 2008, 12:46 PM)
Hi guys, im trying to get a native 1080p LCD screen, budget is max RM4200, for a room. No more no less...  Min 37" Is this somehow possible ?

As in it must be 1920x1080... Any brand will suffice... Appreciate all you sifu's feedback smile.gif
Thanks in advance
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Get this one from htkaki....Samsung LA40A550 (Full HD) - RM4,150 cash and carry
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post Sep 25 2008, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(arremie @ Sep 25 2008, 12:58 PM)
Get this one from htkaki....Samsung LA40A550 (Full HD) - RM4,150 cash and carry
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Thanks for the recommendations, and the PM's guys, you guys are very helpful compared to other sub-forums.. blush.gif

Anyways, a member has PMed me saying the price for that screen is actually 4050. Can anyone here provide taht price ? Its cash price really. Gonna snag one this weekend for SURE. smile.gif Will be able to pick it up myself...
arremie
post Sep 25 2008, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(mAzTT @ Sep 25 2008, 01:30 PM)
Thanks for the recommendations, and the PM's guys, you guys are very helpful compared to other sub-forums..  blush.gif

Anyways, a member has PMed me saying the price for that screen is actually 4050. Can anyone here provide taht price ? Its cash price really. Gonna snag one this weekend for SURE. smile.gif Will be able to pick it up myself...
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Somehow I can guess who that person is tongue.gif
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post Sep 25 2008, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(arremie @ Sep 25 2008, 01:45 PM)
Somehow I can guess who that person is tongue.gif
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Haha well i wouldnt be surprised if you do, i guess its a rather closed loop of friends around here, but at least you guys are VERY approachable, props to you guys notworthy.gif

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law1777
post Sep 25 2008, 02:21 PM

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who?? care to share who selling so cheap??
arremie
post Sep 25 2008, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(law1777 @ Sep 25 2008, 02:21 PM)
who?? care to share who selling so cheap??
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U got PM bro tongue.gif
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post Sep 25 2008, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(arremie @ Sep 25 2008, 02:38 PM)
U got PM bro tongue.gif
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LOL I reckon he/she got two.
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post Sep 25 2008, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(99below0 @ Sep 25 2008, 11:21 AM)
Think the general consensus here is Plasma for Astro, if you want a flat-screen TV. Plasma hides Astro's artifacts reasonably well, while LCDs show it in all it's "glory". "Astro enhancement mode" just means lowered contrast, max noise reduction settings. Basically the picture will be much softer than you're used to seeing on your old CRT.
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Actually, Plasma does not hide Astro's artifacts. Most Plasma TV have better engine to scale-up 480i signal into the Panel's Native Resolution.

LCD's engine so bad that it create lots of artifacts, in conjunction with the Motion Blur effect, it looks worst.

Tranditional CRT TV looks fine just because it display 480i exactly what it get from Astro.

So, technically, a very good up-scaling device will make Astro PQ better but not much because Astro give you high compression data already which is so bad. (G-I-G-O)

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post Sep 25 2008, 04:57 PM

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im currently look for 50py800 with 0% installment.. where can i find?
arremie
post Sep 25 2008, 05:00 PM

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Harvey Norman, Best Denki, htkaki tongue.gif
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post Sep 25 2008, 05:21 PM

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and iambloodysick too
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post Sep 25 2008, 05:32 PM

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but bro im from sarawak miri.. how to do transcation @@

htkaki bro whats ur price...

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post Sep 25 2008, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(YiQi @ Sep 25 2008, 03:47 PM)
Actually, Plasma does not hide Astro's artifacts. Most Plasma TV have better engine to scale-up 480i signal into the Panel's Native Resolution.

LCD's engine so bad that it create lots of artifacts, in conjunction with the Motion Blur effect, it looks worst.

Tranditional CRT TV looks fine just because it display 480i exactly what it get from Astro.

So, technically, a very good up-scaling device will make Astro PQ better but not much because Astro give you high compression data already which is so bad. (G-I-G-O)
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Actually, that's not entirely true. Most Plasmas have an inferior engine compared to some LCDs (notably Philips and Sony). It is very obvious when you are viewing HD content through both.

However, Plasma's superior blacks coupled with the pixel structure design produces somewhat softer picture with deeper color. This 'softness' is what hides the artifacts. It's there, just not so obvious. If you switch up to a Monster Cable, you will see it more obviously, especially if you also upscale to 1080p.

LCDs, on the other hand, are just bleedingly sharp with high contrast, and because you don't have a screen-door effect like plasma, artifact-ridden areas tend to get all mushy into each other. To over-ride this, most LCDs will have a more powerful noise reduction system, so it will look smoother, but you lose detail.

Mainly, it's all in the pixel design of the 2 competing technologies.
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post Sep 25 2008, 06:12 PM

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thats mean if u want superb viewing using blu-ray players they work better on plasmas right? and cables do help alot in enchancing. where as other thing which are below 1080p u can choose to use lcd..
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QUOTE(steventanz @ Sep 25 2008, 12:28 PM)
hi guys..i'm planning to get a 32inch LCD for my xbox 360..my budget is below rm2k..which model is the best i should buy? thx smile.gif
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I recommend Panasonic TX-32LX800

me myself , I'm using a Panasonic TX-37LX800 as well !
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QUOTE(99below0 @ Sep 25 2008, 05:47 PM)
However, Plasma's superior blacks coupled with the pixel structure design produces somewhat softer picture with deeper color. This 'softness' is what hides the artifacts. It's there, just not so obvious. If you switch up to a Monster Cable, you will see it more obviously, especially if you also upscale to 1080p.

LCDs, on the other hand, are just bleedingly sharp with high contrast, and because you don't have a screen-door effect like plasma, artifact-ridden areas tend to get all mushy into each other. To over-ride this, most LCDs will have a more powerful noise reduction system, so it will look smoother, but you lose detail.
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Oh! Right, you are correct.
Almost forget that Plasma has better color/black level, which show smooth color/black tone where LCD not able to reach this level.

Maybe can explain in this way:
Plasma almost able to reproduce all the colour whatever the source is, but LCD's 8bit/10bit panel that had very limited color/black level range. In order to display the whole picture which had too much colour, it will try to round up/down some of the color pixel to the nearest one, which make the color looks obvious. Some more LCD always use dynamic contrast to sharpen the picture which make it 'WOW' in some case but make it worst if the source is so bad.

BTW, peoples keep saying that LCD is not fast enough that's why has Motion Blur effect. But what I heard is, it is not the problem of the speed, it is because LCD do not have screen-door effect, which keep the whole picture on at every moment. So, the problem is human's eye. When the picture light stay too long in your eyes, you will have some kind of image memory effect in your brain, that's when the picture frame change to next, you have both frame in your mind which cause the blur effect. Is is true ?
And that's why lot of LCD now start implement 100Hz, which is either insert a 'calculated' image or a black image to shorthen the time of each frame on the screen to prevent memory effect.

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post Sep 25 2008, 07:49 PM

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what about plasma superb motion vs lcd 100Hz??

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