QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Sep 23 2008, 09:19 AM)
hyper focus! D40/x/D60 Thread V4, The saga continues...
D40/x/D60 Thread V4, The saga continues...
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Sep 23 2008, 09:23 AM
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Sep 23 2008, 09:24 AM
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Sep 23 2008, 09:25 AM
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Sep 23 2008, 09:27 AM
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hahahahha...
i tot u talking manual focus maaaa.... |
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Sep 23 2008, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(xandman @ Sep 23 2008, 07:33 AM) i guess wat u r explaining is indeed manual metering.... Sorry, but I lost you back there. Are you saying you need to do stop down metering with the D40 with AIS lenses? Are you sure?BUT.... it is not the method used when using an Ai-S lenses with bodies that cant meter with them... metering with Ai-S lenses on a d40 is NOT manual metering... it is stop down metering... heard of it? where u set the aperture ring to the F-number that u want when the photo is taken... and shoot till u get the exposure rite... THAT's manual metering with a body that cant meter.... so r u clear now? next time, dun confuse ppl...check before u explain anything... |
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Sep 23 2008, 10:25 AM
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lol only d200 and above can meter with Ais lens
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Sep 23 2008, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 23 2008, 07:43 AM) @ bold : Not very friendly statement 1. Wow, you can actually tell? Do you know what is the resolution on the D40's LCD? Do you know what is the resolution of your images (assuming shooting at 6mp)? In other words, sharp images on the D40 LCD does NOT translate in to sharp images on your computer screen.Well, regarding your reply, here is mine towards yours 1. Who say can't ? LCD of D40 is actually very good and better than Nonac LCD of 400D, 450D or even 40D 2. why I can't tell ? If i want focus a thing, put your focusing point then just twist the lens focusing till the green dot is there. 3. Panning with manual ? My sifu can 2. Do you know how big is the focusing area of the D40? What if when you shoot someone's face, the whole box is covering the face? What are you focusing on then? Can you see? 3. Come on, give a more solid example. Panning is something that if you stand where the subject is moving along your focusing plane, you actually might *not* need to do any adjustment to your focusing. How about subjects that move in and out of your focusing plane? Say it's coming towards you or going further away? Can you keep up then? ifer, personally, I think it's easier to do manual focus on film. Film SLRs are full-frame cameras, with larger viewfinders and also split-screen focusing. Furthermore, those will probably use actual manual focusing lenses, with damped focusing rings. In other words, all the older gears are meant to be manually focused. On film SLRs, the problem would not be manual focusing, but manual metering - the opposite of DLSRs - since there is no manual feedback on your exposure. Big bummer. Added on September 23, 2008, 10:28 am QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Sep 23 2008, 10:25 AM) That's right. Hence my question to xandman. Or did I mis-read his statements?This post has been edited by ebernie: Sep 23 2008, 10:38 AM |
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Sep 23 2008, 10:50 AM
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YEs i m sure.
BTW.. do u even know wat is stop down metering? it is a trial and error type metering... it doesnt involve the camera's metering at all... on d200 and above... AiS lenses can be metered by the body... and A and M mode is possible... |
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Sep 23 2008, 10:55 AM
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I think someone needs to define D200 and above. Technically it can mean that above D200 are the D2, the D3, the D300, the D700 or it can also mean any camera newer than the D200 which means the D40 falls into the category
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Sep 23 2008, 10:57 AM
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d200 and above = semi-pro and pro bodies...
it's defined... |
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Sep 23 2008, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(xandman @ Sep 23 2008, 10:50 AM) YEs i m sure. Tsk tsk tsk xandman. Why don't you just stop this right now and avoid making a further fool of yourself?BTW.. do u even know wat is stop down metering? it is a trial and error type metering... it doesnt involve the camera's metering at all... on d200 and above... AiS lenses can be metered by the body... and A and M mode is possible... Yes, I know what is stop down metering. It is when you close the aperture of the lens to allow the light meter to read the correct exposure. This is necessary if you're shooting at anything but the largest aperture (the light meter will always expose for the max aperture). Now tell me this - how is a body that cannot read metering info from a lens, going to meter it? (Stopped down metering, or not). Heck some cameras even need to use the DOF preview button to do stop down metering. That makes it even more ridiculous because D40/x/60 don't have DOF preview button. Oh, btw xandman, I think you are the one confused. The "trial and error metering" is called 'manual metering'. Stop down metering, is not manual metering. This post has been edited by ebernie: Sep 23 2008, 11:01 AM |
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Sep 23 2008, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(ebernie @ Sep 23 2008, 10:27 AM) 1. Wow, you can actually tell? Do you know what is the resolution on the D40's LCD? Do you know what is the resolution of your images (assuming shooting at 6mp)? In other words, sharp images on the D40 LCD does NOT translate in to sharp images on your computer screen. 1. Please , there is a zoom in function la 2. Do you know how big is the focusing area of the D40? What if when you shoot someone's face, the whole box is covering the face? What are you focusing on then? Can you see? 3. Come on, give a more solid example. Panning is something that if you stand where the subject is moving along your focusing plane, you actually might *not* need to do any adjustment to your focusing. How about subjects that move in and out of your focusing plane? Say it's coming towards you or going further away? Can you keep up then? ifer, personally, I think it's easier to do manual focus on film. Film SLRs are full-frame cameras, with larger viewfinders and also split-screen focusing. Furthermore, those will probably use actual manual focusing lenses, with damped focusing rings. In other words, all the older gears are meant to be manually focused. On film SLRs, the problem would not be manual focusing, but manual metering - the opposite of DLSRs - since there is no manual feedback on your exposure. Big bummer. Added on September 23, 2008, 10:28 am That's right. Hence my question to xandman. Or did I mis-read his statements? 2. Seriously you should try. I even manual with 85mm. No problem at all. 3. Again Seriously, you should try it before say it's hard. For me I feel is hard to manual metering. Seriously. |
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Sep 23 2008, 11:19 AM
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Anyone can give some advice..
AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-105mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR VS AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED Which one better as to replace my D40 kit lens… need to have it for wedding photography … very low budget (around 1k) just to kick start… Don’t know wheter to go for the VR or for the zoom 135mm?? as the both are almost the same price. tq |
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Sep 23 2008, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(fizbone @ Sep 23 2008, 11:19 AM) Anyone can give some advice.. Wedding need low light. Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-105mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR VS AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6G IF-ED Which one better as to replace my D40 kit lens… need to have it for wedding photography … very low budget (around 1k) just to kick start… Don’t know wheter to go for the VR or for the zoom 135mm?? as the both are almost the same price. tq |
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Sep 23 2008, 11:26 AM
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Sep 23 2008, 11:34 AM
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Err he has a budget of 1k, wouldn't the 17-50 burst his budget by another 1k?
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Sep 23 2008, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 23 2008, 11:19 AM) 1. Please , there is a zoom in function la Well, good for you if you can be satisfied with manual focusing. I just find the LCD and small-ish viewfinder of the D40 to be more suited for auto-focusing. Same goes for the terrible focusing rings of the current AF lenses. But that's just me.2. Seriously you should try. I even manual with 85mm. No problem at all. 3. Again Seriously, you should try it before say it's hard. For me I feel is hard to manual metering. Seriously. TakNak Chimping has nothing to do with manual focusing, but more towards metering, unless you use a manual focus lens as well during that outing. |
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Sep 23 2008, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 23 2008, 11:34 AM) Tamron 17-50 RM 1,2xx only for grey set Second hand around RM 1,xxx Added on September 23, 2008, 11:36 am QUOTE(ebernie @ Sep 23 2008, 11:34 AM) Well, good for you if you can be satisfied with manual focusing. I just find the LCD and small-ish viewfinder of the D40 to be more suited for auto-focusing. Same goes for the terrible focusing rings of the current AF lenses. But that's just me. We are using manual focus lens and manual focus all the way with fixed ISO mate TakNak Chimping has nothing to do with manual focusing, but more towards metering, unless you use a manual focus lens as well during that outing. Seriously, if you stay on the ground too long for something same, you learn nothing This post has been edited by KTCY: Sep 23 2008, 11:36 AM |
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Sep 23 2008, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(zio @ Sep 23 2008, 11:34 AM) Not really. New is just RM1300 @ digitalsmania (pudu plaza) or RM1350 @ JOne. Both grey set. New ones are about 14xx (forgot the price).Mounted on my ex-D40 ![]() Ah, I see KTCY beat me with the pricing. This post has been edited by ebernie: Sep 23 2008, 11:38 AM |
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Sep 23 2008, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(ebernie @ Sep 23 2008, 11:34 AM) Well, good for you if you can be satisfied with manual focusing. I just find the LCD and small-ish viewfinder of the D40 to be more suited for auto-focusing. Same goes for the terrible focusing rings of the current AF lenses. But that's just me. Ehh dont know anything about manual metering but SA's TakNak Chimping requires you to do manual focusing. just needed to point that out. The rest of the argument is too deep for me.TakNak Chimping has nothing to do with manual focusing, but more towards metering, unless you use a manual focus lens as well during that outing. All I know is... macro is manual. Haha only way to check sharpness is to keep zooming in after every shot QUOTE(KTCY @ Sep 23 2008, 11:35 AM) Ahh so cheap only eh. Hrmmm... |
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