hahah new "level" tht nice

but need my friend to confirm, mayb sendiri tune sendiri shiok nialer...kakakkaa

haha...then your ears "wet", not you

gabanyayaya,

I could tell from your postings lately. And I could almost feel the predicament you're in too. Don't rush, take your time to decide carefully.

Personally, I believe GainClone amps are great sounding amps after reading quite a fair bit on Junji Kimura, his 4706 GainCard amp plus his other 47Laboratory products. I don't discount myself trying out a GC diy kit in later years, now that I'm assembling my T-amp with the TA2024 kit.

On the M-cap, would you know the approximate price inclusive of shipping costs? I'd be interested on proviso the price is fairly cheap.

good for you bro...keep up the good work and those enthusiast....

on the cap matters what do you have in mind????? any uF value, brands, types???????

I thought of seeking for a pair of "50V 2.2μF Polypropylene Capacitor" for use as input caps for the T-amp. However, I notice this value is hard to come by after some quick searches at Madisound, Farnell and RS Components. I was also taken aback with pricing of some which are way too expensive for use in a T-amp. Maybe I may have to settle for some audio-grade electrolytic capacitors instead.

I'd think you better count me out in sharing out costs of shipping as I subscribe to KISS strategy too and is not prepared to pay the asking price of 'boutique' capacitors.



This post has been edited by Y.C.: Aug 26 2008, 10:40 PM

for this t-amp, anything you put in can easily out price it

those input cap are really important, you will appreciate it

well mayb you can get a cheap non polarise unit 1st, actually 2.2uf is the standard desing, u might wana consider 3.3 too if you like thick vocal

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Added on August 26, 2008, 10:45 pmwow bill medley is nice!! love tht thick vocal! listening to damn near righteous
http://www.billmedley.com/

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Added on August 26, 2008, 10:50 pm2.2uf Polypropylene
http://my.farnell.com/jsp/search/browse.js...equestid=281605

2.2uf polyester, wima looks hot....hahaha
http://my.farnell.com/jsp/search/browse.js...equestid=281638


This post has been edited by xtorm: Aug 26 2008, 10:50 PM

Thanks xtorm, I appreciate your comment. However, after studying other T-amps including Charlize, Trends TA10.1 and etc, I observed that most of them stick to this value, so I'll try not to outsmart the people who have experimented and listened extensively to them.

Any 'kangtao' where to get 2.2μF 50V Polypropylene Capacitors cheap cheap?


Those 2.2μF Polypropylene Capacitors from Farnell are actually Capacitor dielectric, I don't think they're suitable for use as input caps.

This post has been edited by Y.C.: Aug 26 2008, 11:01 PM

hmm nowor...

Polypropylene are actaully better sounding

those wima rm5++ each only, mayb you can try those out

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Added on August 26, 2008, 10:59 pmoh yakah...they are film capwor....

This post has been edited by xtorm: Aug 26 2008, 10:59 PM

So, the M-caps are out?
Y.C.,
You are right,the recommended value is usually 2.2uF and who are we to argue?

Why is it so hard to get 2.3uF 50V? Is it going to be 'expensive'?

bro, know what type of resistors is suitable for audio signal?
metal film?

next batch ordering next week wan ah?

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Added on August 26, 2008, 11:30 pmhaha for resistor im not sure actually...

but im happy with the cheapo 1 i use ...for now...hahaha

This post has been edited by xtorm: Aug 26 2008, 11:30 PM

xtorm,
why did you replaced the SMD resistor? SMD one no good?

haha

smd nvr ment for audiolor

and the value isnt accurate, the 1% i use are all 11.9Xk for 12k value, so better balance, more details too, but tht might be due to soldering 2 direct wire for the power supply of the chip, cos it happen again when i did the same for the tweeter amp

Sorry jazzy, that's not what I actually meant to say. In my case, since I'm only using one T-amp and not bi-amping using two T-amps, I reckon it's best I stick to the 'norm' set by audio designers of other T-amps. I'm afraid if I were to adopt other value for input capacitors, I might gain some but lose other areas and upset the overall balance. Your choice in value of 2.0μF for treble and 10μF for midrange/bass are appropriate in your context.

I believe price of 2.2μF 50V Polypropylene caps at OE is not going to be inexpensive.


I agree with xtorm that smd resistor were never meant for audio use, its presence on the T-amp kit merely due to price limitation. If we were to look inside ready-made amplifiers, the resistors used therein are those light blue-coloured 1% low noise metal film (with non-magnetic end caps). And if we want our T-amps to sound even better, try using a brand called 'Dale' which are light brown in colour.



This post has been edited by Y.C.: Aug 26 2008, 11:58 PM

Hmm.. little tweaks to be considered.. may be we should compile this, ya? Mods that can be done to the T-Amp.. Major and minor mods...

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Added on August 26, 2008, 11:54 pmGot it Y.C.,
I understand from your point of view which is a good and safe choice!
I take a slightly different approach due to my different setup.. It's certainly works for me but may not for others..
This is the beauty and fun of this amp ya? You can customized the sound to your liking, all for 55 bucks!
Very very hard to beat!!!

Duly noted that poly caps.. wonder if this thing is avail. in JP..

This post has been edited by jazzy939: Aug 26 2008, 11:54 PM

bsl555 actually pointed out Nixie Electronics (M) S/B to my enquiry as to where to source for better parts apart from OE. Try their website: Nixie Oops sorry again, that's their e-Card and not a website.



This post has been edited by Y.C.: Aug 27 2008, 12:15 AM

Nixie is one of my fav. haunting grounds too...
Maybe I'll drop in this weekend to have a 'peek'
Thanks for the effort, Y.C. It's ok.

This post has been edited by jazzy939: Aug 27 2008, 12:20 AM

I could only quote from pictures posted since I've yet to receive my T-amps.

I think the 4 inductors are actually magnetic cores and could be replaced with air cores for overall smoothness or alternatively with ferrite cores for more slam and better dynamics. And if we were to de-solder and take out every single smd parts and replace them with 1% metal film resistors and capacitor dielectrics plus replacing both input and psu capacitors with audio grade ones, it's going to cost us quite a tidy sum of money. It's just that I don't know how the sound improvement is going to be like?




This post has been edited by Y.C.: Aug 27 2008, 12:46 AM

Good point Y.C.!
Anyway there are 'limits' in terms of upgrading..
I won't be carried away up to the point of replacing the majority if not all of the stock board's components!
Definitely there would be changes to the sound quality, whether its an improvement or not, thats another story..

yea Y.C got a point

trend 10.1 are all make out of big component, and from review mention it sounded nice.

0.47uf and 0.1uf caps are kinda cheap for poly, so im thinking of trying 1 out