DIY T-Amp user/diyer come here :), TA2024 complete build board diy
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 Aug 15 2008, 07:57 PM
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jazzy how's your power supply configuration???? I mean how does the power supply circuit looks like? I though T-amp uses 12V PSU???? and did you snubbed it or what ever you could call it????
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Aug 16 2008, 04:43 PM
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some how I'm in the corner between gainclone and tripath.....which choice should I choose....???
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Aug 16 2008, 06:41 PM
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but using the battery i think you have to design somehow the recharging mechanism so it will be ease every time need to recharge the battery......and more convenient just like wed wine audio does.....and much more boutique looked alike....
 a clean power for you amp....vroooooommmmm  12V how long can last ?????? This post has been edited by gabanyayaya: Aug 16 2008, 06:43 PM |
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Aug 16 2008, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(March05 @ Aug 16 2008, 07:50 PM) Isn't it a simple thing to have two batteries, and swap them over when the one in use starts to run down? To me, adding a charger into the system runs the risk of adding noise into the power supply.....back to square one. separate also can but you need to build another casing...you can't just connect it using a wire between a battery and the amp...that's just look so awful and you have made a fashion crime.....LOL.... i think the charger circuit is just simple as it can be....and if noise is an issue here just wraps it with foil....btw i heard make sure wire between power and signal is isolated firmly so they will be no interferences IMHO... |
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Aug 16 2008, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Aug 16 2008, 08:01 PM) This is one of a simple SLA charging circuit.. can you make one in 15 minutes? |
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Aug 16 2008, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Aug 16 2008, 08:09 PM) Definitely not! hehehe...that's jazzy.... If I have all the parts.. 17 minutes, maybe! This one may...  QUOTE(March05 @ Aug 16 2008, 08:14 PM) There is something about that logic of having an integrated charger that troubles me....if the battery runs down while you are in the midst of a nice jazz session, then you'll have to stop for an hour to recharge it, by which time the magic is broken..... whereas a spare battery is only a simple few seconds swap, and you continue merrily. yes....can also but we have a philosophy here....KIS and my philosophy is Keep it Cheap - KIP.... SLAs are ubiquitous items nowadays....the 7 amphours ones are going for around RM40 (local made?) - RM90 (good Japanese branded) in JP. DIN55 for your car....the maintenance free type, maybe RM400...(argggg--toothache).  gabanyayaya, I'm sure you can make a beautiful casing which can be opened easily, right? Even an undressed SLA can be hidden somewhere with just a gold plated (if you really want fashionable ones) cable leading to it. cheap cheap cheap... |
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Aug 18 2008, 01:12 AM
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jazzy how many watt this thing produce....???? 10...??? you're playing it with the TDL....90dB
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Aug 18 2008, 01:44 AM
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Aug 18 2008, 02:26 AM) 6W at 0.1% THD! bed???.....I'm going to now......i'm sticking a Cellophane Tape on my eye.... Yes! Playing using my TDL's RTL3 A puny lil thing driving a huge monster! Just completed Diana Krall's Boulevard of Broken Dreams. Although the SMPS drove the TA2024 well, it lost to linear PSU in terms of resolution.. Meaning, the differences between vocals, instruments etc is more distinct with linear PSU than SMPS.. I bet using toroids would push the fidelity further.. damn!  Take note I have not replace any other capacitor onboard other than the input caps. Have to check out how the DIN55 batery will perform. Definitely not tonite! This morning rather!  Heyy you're sleeping late!  |
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Aug 18 2008, 07:58 PM
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jazzy during operation between your 'two patient' you've change different capacitor to experiment the sq....can you tell me what factors that need to consider when changing caps???? value...type brand.....and different characteristic between each mF value???
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Aug 18 2008, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(Najmods @ Aug 18 2008, 09:32 PM) What jazzy change is the input caps. For input caps generally there is few things that should be considered: muchas gracias sanyor....maybe uncle jazzy wanto to add more here 1) Its best to use non-polar caps, or better non electrolytic caps. It is best to use non polar caps here if its electrolytic, and best to use non electrolytic (film caps, like polypropylene, polyester, or its metallised variant) but there is some good electrolytic caps like non polar Rubycon Blackgate NX HQ that is suitable for circuit that carrying audio (like input caps) 2) The capacitance: Best to stick with stock value, but if you want more bass, try a higher capacitance. Like jazzy change to 10uF from stock 2uF, it improves bass response considerably That is based on my experience and my knowledge. Perhaps a more veteran and hardcore modder like empire23, LittleGhost or Ijan can give more info regarding this This post has been edited by gabanyayaya: Aug 18 2008, 10:29 PM |
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Aug 19 2008, 07:40 PM
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OMG....there's a Tripath groupie building its territory here........
guys...you think you can make a homemade toroidal tranny here...???? |
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Aug 20 2008, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Aug 20 2008, 06:29 PM) Found this MONO class D module over the internet with the following spec.: Tempted and drooling.... 300W@8Ω THD+N: 0.05% SNR: 100dB BW: 20Hz~45kHz@10W η：92%@8Ω；88%@4Ω Over load protect Offset adjustable Soft start Ada orang minat? Minimum power for a stereo module is 200W@8Ω! No price was quoted/given...  jazzy, you think this could be a good audiophile sounding kit or just excessive of useless power???? What Tripath chip it based on? Price????BTW jazzy is is possible for you to look for me a set of 20μF Polypropylene Capacitors in JP? Any ideas how this will cost??? |
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Aug 21 2008, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Aug 21 2008, 05:24 PM) Y.C., jazzy with a good philosophy....KIC KIC KIC.....RM36 for a 20uF......!!! I'll pass.....I think can get from online slightly cheaper than that thanks.... for what????....hehe another mod..... I whole heartedly agree with your statement! The bolded one! My pre T-Amp setup is based on a 90W RMS/Channel, Class AA amplification. Imagine how sceptical I was on a tiny Class D 6 watter! The T-Amp phenomena did not change the whole hifi industry overnight and make other classes of amplication obsolete, it just give a new insights with regards to the performance of class D or in the case of Tripath, Class T. Personally, I am here for the music! We want the 'best' for minimum RM, always on the look out for best value for money stuffs and it so happened TA2024 came calling in At the end of the day, what matter most is (at least to me!), if it makes us enjoy the music like we want to.. so be it! It doesn't matter if it's a RM55 6Watts amp.. jazzy your killing me here....if the Class D that you try to get is around my budget I think I might suspend my Gainclone project here....updates updates.... |
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Aug 21 2008, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Aug 21 2008, 09:58 PM) gabanyayaya, D'Bom...sounds familiar.....last time when i'm considering a class d amp from hypex it cost almost the total of my hifi system and i have to leave it for good...now when you mention this amp kit, it really put me in a mood again for another journey...will you able to bring this to a reality jazzy...??? sure ke belum giving up????? bole dapat harga bagus ka??? well i think the supplier will respond la but takes time....2...3 day more....be patient la uncleThe anticipated reply from that Class D amp supplier did not arrived.  My GainClone project still KIV.. am NOT giving up hope yet. I don't really want to pit the T-Amp with the GC. Eventhough they are chip amp but they are from different breed altogether, unless the GC is also a Class D, you know what I mean? I am not throwing out D'Bom either! |
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Aug 21 2008, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Aug 21 2008, 10:42 PM) gabanyayaya, hey jazzy....don't put D'Bom into the lines la....just let it be as it was.....a ref. besides your Technics...can't put it to the same league as others....if you were asked to pick between the T-Amp and GC what would be your choice? Tough one, huh? What about D'Bom thrown in for good measure? I found out from another thread that the so called supplier that I was communicating with was the designer of the amp himself! He must be busy, I'll give him some time to respond... no big deal here.. It is just an option. I am not into the 300W per channel thing, only curious how would another Class D amp would sound like using Tripath's TA2024 as the reference. I can't really say whats going to happen. All pending to the $$$. Remember, we're looking for value for money stuffs or best bang per buck. It MAY be affordable.. I am worry about additional costs like shipping etc... between GC and T-amp......hmmmmm my last visit to diyparadise Charlize last AV show...I found that the sounds of Charlize a bit 'backwards' with their full range horns......i don't know why but i wasn't impress. maybe my ear or something else. but I think SQ vary between different T-amp designs. GC...got no idea how does it sounds....... Like me too.... I'm not after at those heavy monster wattage power lah.....me just like a moderate 40-60W amp. The most important is the dynamics it can produce out of those tiny wattage power to my speaker that counts... Carefull curiosity will lead you to overkill...hehehe As for shipping I guess won't cost a fortune ler........once can bulk you save more, besides look at LY bulk section, there's many people willing to help... Lets poison poison here... This post has been edited by gabanyayaya: Aug 21 2008, 10:16 PM |
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Aug 21 2008, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Aug 21 2008, 11:28 PM) Fair enough! Want to try some acoustic sounds...??? just loose that Diana Krall for a while lah..... Expectations can actually change perceptions HiFi is very personal.. it shouldn't matter what others say right? Yes.. I do not expect the shipping to be that high, after all its a small 'package'.. We'l have to wait and hope for the best... I'll spin 'The Best Is Yet To Come' in the mean time... still 'burn in' the T-Amp..  Jazzy would it be costly too for other extra part for the class D like PSU, tranny, plug... etc??? |
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Aug 21 2008, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Aug 22 2008, 12:08 AM) I have read this somewhere and I tend to agree.. As long as the amp it self doesn't cost such ridiculous amount i guess nahh...but....casing must be good. I like a unique casing....any ideas/lobangs?playing the T-Amp especially in the office will not get your work done Again, like any good amp design, a good power supply would help or made (some) difference!, eventhough the Class D amp are not that 'choosy'.. linear or not, SMPD, batteries, anything goes! So for a 'normal' no frills 12VDC 3A regulated PSU would costs around RM50-60, inclusive of other minimal hardware requirements. Is this 'too much' to pay? |
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Aug 21 2008, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Aug 22 2008, 12:28 AM) Again, this is very subjective! anything shiny and glittering is EXPEN$IVE.....that casing looks very overkill kill kill.... Heyy, me too! Anyway, I am about to get a quote for this type of casing tomorrow.. What you think? Or you have a particular style in mind, why not share it here?  how about this one    |
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Aug 21 2008, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Aug 22 2008, 12:45 AM) This is even worst! = more expensive! for me it sounds expensive......how much it cost jazzy (agak-agak)? I see lotsa machined aluminium alloy!  The casing that I like will only require a 'flash chrome' plating and a good fine metal polish.. Wonder why we are the only two 'chatting' here.. |
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Aug 22 2008, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Aug 22 2008, 01:01 AM) I'd say it will 'look' expensive jazzy bro when can private audition??? It's just a 'flash chrome' plating, followed by fine metal polishing, buffing.I have this spare PSU casing, if you're on a tight budget, it will suffice. However the PSU will be on a separate similar housing. Certainly would look nice, side by side.. |
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