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DIY T-Amp user/diyer come here :), TA2024 complete build board diy

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jazzy939
post Sep 12 2008, 12:33 AM

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Under the weather huh? You better take care of yourself dude! tongue.gif

yes.. fast but NOT as fast as it used to... sad.gif

Ahhh vintage parts! brows.gif keep me posted! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(gabanyayaya @ Sep 12 2008, 12:23 AM)
sorry bro been a busy week...not busy with my audio but work...and my head is spinning around.....just get up..... blink.gif  blink.gif

so our thread has surpass rapidly to the next galaxy.... 58 pages and counting...well done!!

Arr bro I found few supplier who sells vintage parts. Will keep posted on that.
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post Sep 12 2008, 12:42 AM

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i would love to know where to get some nice parts for our t-amp....biggrin.gif
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post Sep 12 2008, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(Y.C. @ Sep 10 2008, 10:42 AM)
Good morning, all.


Yup, this ekool chap didnot even comment anything; wonder why he quoted me?

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Sorry guys. I was toying around as to what to post when something odd happened. Maybe some of you can highlight to me what happened. I wads typing some comments. Halfway I stopped and went to get a drink. When I returned my screen froze. Refreashed it and all those I hv typed just disappeared. Since it's late I've decided to switched and went to bed. Next morning my friend sms me and asked why I posted a blank message. Now this is something new to me. Anyone knows why? rclxub.gif

Anyway the message I am trying to post is as follows:

Y.C. you certainly served some sweet poison to your friends to make then join the t-amp game. If there are any more of those sweet poison please count me in, ya? tongue.gif
Looks like I'm a bit late and missed Y.C. new poison. - the Sansui CDP. cry.gif Any stocks left? As I can remember you can't go wrong with any hi fi equipments from Sansui. They are one of the best in those days. I am sure this cdp should not have much complain and I bet it can match any branded cdp in the market. icon_rolleyes.gif

Yes. Y.C. I do own a t-amp and at this moment I am listening to it. will postt my comments later.

Nice to know you guys and thanks for welcoming me.

This post has been edited by ekool: Sep 12 2008, 01:51 AM
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post Sep 12 2008, 01:51 AM

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hmm what kind of setting being done to the t-amp of yours?
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post Sep 12 2008, 02:29 AM

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ongbs, Oops… I didn’t check with you whether you read Chinese or otherwise before posting the 2 lines of Chinese writing in Post 1150; but anyhow and also for info of all, I’ve translated them (poison) to read:

SANSUI CD-X310 – The image of Sansui brand in the United States is highly regarded and placed within the top ten there, after ACCUPHASE but considered better than LUXMAN, YAMAHA, SONY ..... In the eyes of knowing audiophiles, SANSUI represents the excellent sonics of Japan .. And when we mention Japanese high fidelity, we would always think of SANSUI

The CD player from SANSUI’s golden era .. works meticulously and is both quiet and stable in opening and closing of its CD tray, tracks excellently of data encoded on discs, fast and stable in reading encoded data, doesn’t skip whilst reading discs including those self burnt ones, warmth sounding but full of details, highly transparent yet sounding full .. vocals sounding sweet and well fleshed out, highly resolved with excellent details …. Possessing all of the good old SANSUI’ unique sweet sound and gentleness which is suited for listening to all genres of music like to Classical music and Vocals, and is the best companion to appreciate music by audiophiles.



Jazzy,

Cool bro, you really are a leader we could count on. thumbup.gif And you bought FOUR T-amps yourself?


ekool, welcome aboard TAFC again.

I only ordered 3 units of Sansui CDP for my colleague, friend and myself. You’ll need to order from the URL posted in my earlier posting if you really do need a CDP yourself. You WON’T regret it as coupled with T-amp, we’re indeed having the greatest bang for bucks spent (just as Jazzy has puts it above). I’ve listened to my unit for several hours today and must admit I’m really impressed with its sound which is surely sweet sounding as claimed in above para (poison). The details through my T-amp are all there and come across without any harshness nor sounding hard. I had always believe that CDPs need at least 100 – 200 hours to run-in as in the case of my Roksan Caspian m-series-1 which only sounds right (at least to my ears) after some 300 over hours of playing music proper.


xtorm, PM answered, kindly check.




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post Sep 12 2008, 02:42 AM

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QUOTE(Y.C. @ Sep 12 2008, 02:29 AM)
ongbs, Oops… I didn’t check with you whether you read Chinese or otherwise before posting the 2 lines of Chinese writing in Post 1150; but anyhow and also for info of all, I’ve translated them (poison) to read:

SANSUI CD-X310 – The image of Sansui brand in the United States is highly regarded and placed within the top ten there, after ACCUPHASE but considered better than LUXMAN, YAMAHA, SONY ..... In the eyes of knowing audiophiles, SANSUI represents the excellent sonics of Japan ..  And when we mention Japanese high fidelity, we would always think of SANSUI

The CD player from SANSUI’s golden era .. works meticulously and is both quiet and stable in opening and closing of its CD tray, tracks excellently of data encoded on discs, fast and stable in reading encoded data, doesn’t skip whilst reading discs including those self burnt ones, warmth sounding but full of details, highly transparent yet sounding full .. vocals sounding sweet and well fleshed out, highly resolved with excellent details …. Possessing all of the good old SANSUI’ unique sweet sound and gentleness which is suited for listening to all genres of music like to Classical music and Vocals, and is the best companion to appreciate music by audiophiles.

Jazzy,

Cool bro, you really are a leader we could count on.  thumbup.gif And you bought FOUR T-amps yourself?
ekool, welcome aboard TAFC again.

I only ordered 3 units of Sansui CDP for my colleague, friend and myself. You’ll need to order from the URL posted in my earlier posting if you really do need a CDP yourself. You WON’T regret it as coupled with T-amp, we’re indeed having the greatest bang for bucks spent (just as Jazzy has puts it above). I’ve listened to my unit for several hours today and must admit I’m really impressed with its sound which is surely sweet sounding as claimed in above para (poison). The details through my T-amp are all there and come across without any harshness nor sounding hard. I had always believe that CDPs need at least 100 – 200 hours to run-in as in the case of my Roksan Caspian m-series-1 which only sounds right (at least to my ears) after some 300 over hours of playing music proper. 
xtorm, PM answered, kindly check.
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Thanks Y.C for your effort notworthy.gif
Yes, I can read Chinese words smile.gif

Do you mind to test does it able to read CDR as I got some collection of CD that burn from minidisc tongue.gif
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post Sep 12 2008, 06:59 AM

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xtorm,
So do I! With any luck if there are, will keep you and the gang posted wink.gif

Y.C.,
Eh me? No lah... Lead into something noproblemo.. leader is a different ball game altogether tongue.gif
I have not done any MAJOR soldering job other than the caps and inductors replacements on the T-Amps. The SMDs replacement will be a challenge.. Have to look at the schematics again...
BTW, xtorm, you did replaced some of the SMD resistors right? How was the outcome? I mean the improvements?

Oh yeah.. I bought four T-Amps! laugh.gif Two will be my final configuration(bi-amping). One is for junior and one spare for "R&D" and other miscellaneous 'jobs' wink.gif

You have a Roksan Caspian CDP? Wow.. real solid unit that one! With a 'solid' price wink.gif Last I heard was in a hifi shop auditioning some speakers with a friend. It's a Roksan but dunno which model... tongue.gif But certainly looks like the Caspian M series...




QUOTE(xtorm @ Sep 12 2008, 12:42 AM)
i would love to know where to get some nice parts for our t-amp....biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Y.C. @ Sep 12 2008, 02:29 AM)
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Jazzy,

Cool bro, you really are a leader we could count on.  thumbup.gif And you bought FOUR T-amps yourself?
ekool, welcome aboard TAFC again.

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I had always believe that CDPs need at least 100 – 200 hours to run-in as in the case of my Roksan Caspian m-series-1 which only sounds right (at least to my ears) after some 300 over hours of playing music proper. 
xtorm, PM answered, kindly check.
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This post has been edited by jazzy939: Sep 12 2008, 07:10 AM
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yep, i change the input resistor, imaging is much better and not as harsh, more details too, but i did it togather with the direct power supply line to the chip

i beleive the gain is atleast 99.9% accurate now in both channel as im using 1% resistor which was hand picked tongue.gif hahaha all value 100% same in my meter. compare to the original which range from 19.6x-19.8x

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post Sep 12 2008, 11:20 AM

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xtorm,
duly noted! I am going to do that next prior bi-amping wink.gif
say, when are u going to pick up your stuffs from Y.C?

Any balance unit from batch 3?tongue.gif

QUOTE(xtorm @ Sep 12 2008, 10:19 AM)
yep, i change the input resistor, imaging is much better and not as harsh, more details too, but i did it togather with the direct power supply line to the chip

i beleive the gain is atleast 99.9% accurate now in both channel as im using 1% resistor which was hand picked tongue.gif hahaha all value 100% same in my meter. compare to the original which range from 19.6x-19.8x
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post Sep 12 2008, 11:27 AM

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suppose t pick it up today, but crap, i forget to bring money and there is no atm machine nearby...sad.gif

boards from 3rd batch all sent out. you need another unit? tongue.gif

thinking of taking in 5 pieces if there is 2 order.
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post Sep 12 2008, 11:35 AM

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I need minimum one, probably looking at two the most! tongue.gif

Eh..? You middle of 'nowhere' with no ATM around? weird... hmm.gif

QUOTE(xtorm @ Sep 12 2008, 11:27 AM)
suppose t pick it up today, but crap, i forget to bring money and there is no atm machine nearby...sad.gif

boards from 3rd batch all sent out. you need another unit? tongue.gif

thinking of taking in 5 pieces if there is 2 order.
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post Sep 12 2008, 11:50 AM

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hahaha, doing home theathre ah bro cool2.gif

factory area, nearby faber castle...

dont think i can slip out today as my boss is in sad.gif

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post Sep 12 2008, 11:53 AM

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Oh Fabre Castell! I know where that is tongue.gif
Too bad.. boss around! laugh.gif
I probably will get mine tomorrow..
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post Sep 12 2008, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(xtorm @ Sep 12 2008, 01:51 AM)
hey there welcome smile.gif

hmm what kind of setting being done to the t-amp of yours?
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I have only changed the input caps. Next will be the power caps and finally the inductors. Others may not touch b cos too small to play with and need more tools to get the job done.
This are my observation about the board.
As per original the overall sound is good. As good as some other branded entry levels amps. This t-amp cam match with most speakers incl el cheapos fr china. At full vol the sound does not even distort. The moment the input caps are changed it is a different story.
With 3.3uf caps I noticed only slight difference in sound quality. Using 6.8uf the bass stand out more but the mid and hi seems to be lost. Brightness gone. The vocals does not stands out. You can hear a big difference. Even more bass if use with 8uf caps but again sscrifice on the brightness and vocals. At full vol your speakers may even distort. Maybe need to add a 3-10uf back for the hi.
Finall I put in 2.2uf vishey caps and mannn what a beauty the sounds is. rclxm9.gif Both low and hi and vocals jump at you. Audio sounds soooo good that it can beat any brand amps in the market from entry to mids level. (RM6000.00) rclxms.gif It is like upgrading your wheels from 1.3 to 1.8cc. No distortion at full vol. I must add that after changing the in caps you must use branded speakers - bookshelf as least. If you want bass do not use the cheap entry level ones as these speakers are very bright. Use at least 100k or higher vr. The sound is much smoother. Anyone knows where to find one in KL? Other than that happy listening. tongue.gif

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wow great!! yea those input cap, is alot obvious compare to changing valve in valve amp, this small tiny amp is easy to play with and very affordable! biggrin.gif

btw what type of brand and model you compare so far...
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QUOTE(xtorm @ Sep 12 2008, 02:05 PM)
wow great!! yea those input cap, is alot obvious compare to changing valve in valve amp, this small tiny amp is easy to play with and very affordable! biggrin.gif

btw what type of brand and model you compare so far...
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I'm bad with model nos. Amps compared with nad 3225/325, yamaha, marantz, a friend even told that it is as good as the exposure or roksan.
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post Sep 12 2008, 02:36 PM

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ekool
great start! thumbup.gif
Agreed, you need a decent speaker to realize the full potential of the T-Amp! tongue.gif

Anyway, happy tuning and listening! biggrin.gif
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post Sep 12 2008, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Sep 12 2008, 02:36 PM)
ekool
great start! thumbup.gif
Agreed, you need a decent speaker to realize the full potential of the T-Amp! tongue.gif

Anyway, happy tuning and listening! biggrin.gif
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Thanks.

Will post the kind of music I use with the t-amp. smile.gif
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post Sep 12 2008, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(ekool @ Sep 12 2008, 02:34 PM)
I'm bad with model nos. Amps compared with nad 3225/325, yamaha, marantz, a friend even told that it is as good as the exposure or roksan.
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rclxms.gif great! u have compare so many amps rclxub.gif

got my stuff from Y.C. nob no ATM nearby, but he let me owe him 1st...wahahahaha thanks man!

fever went away for awhile just now tongue.gif but its back again doh.gif

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Xtorm,

Did you count the physical quantity of items received against what was written on the reverse side of envelope? Any mistake from your original order?

Since you have received those items, most of us here in this thread expect you to report back the difference in sound of your T-amp after each component change, fair deal? biggrin.gif

Joke aside, you need to ensure your fever go away for good. nod.gif


Ongbs,

Yes, the Sansui CD-X310 cdp could play CDRs, no problem with that. laugh.gif


ekool,

Great posting! thumbup.gif

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