zltan..there are NO student with 4Cs enter mmmc nor kmc..please dont exagerate...u think manipal would allow such student to enter? manipal too have standards to follow...and the competition to enter is stiff...there are jpa sponsored student,scored 4A for a lvl,but cannot get into mmmc..lucky means your state of health during the exam,ur examiner's mood..please be aware that the examiner is human and no human is perfect that the marking is equal between them...please open up ur mind before bashing here and there without concrete point..and please dun look down on certain med school just because it is in india or 3rd world med school...good doc will always be a good doc no matter where he is educated...

Eligibility Requirements for International Students:
A minimum of 2 credit passes and 1 ordinary pass in Physics, Chemistry, Biology (PCB) or 50% marks in PCB / PCBE and overall aggregate at the ‘A’ level or equivalent examination. He or she should have at least a credit pass in English at the ‘O’ level and should have completed 17 years of age. (If there are 4 subjects - Physics, Chemistry, Zoology and Botany / Maths then a minimum of 2 credit passes and 2 ordinary passes).

Grades & Marks Equivalence:
Sri Lanka GCE 'A' & ‘O’ level grades - valid from 2002:

    * Distinction (A): 75-100% mid point - 87.5
    * Very Good Pass (B): 65-74% mid point - 69.5
    * Credit Pass ©: 50-64% mid point - 57
    * Ordinary Pass(S): 35-49% mid point - 42


London 'A' & 'O' level grades:

    * Grade (A): 80%& above mid point - 90
    * Grade (B): 70-79% mid point - 74.5
    * Grade ©: 60-69% mid point - 64.5
    * Grade (D): 50-59% mid point - 54.5
    * Grade (E): 40-49% mid point - 44.5
    * Grade (N): 35-39%

Erm manage to enter doesnt mean manage to graduate, you may enter with lousy results but can you survive the 5 years in there?

Ya but that is some. So far have not heard of it happening to manipal or any local private uni yet.

Then how on earth did they get the JPA scholarship in the first place....which also involves interviews....right?

http://www.manipal.edu/mcoms/users/Mcomsin...ge.aspx?PgId=12
As far as I can see that D in London A-levels in same as C in Sri Lankan A levels. So, technically, someone can get in with something like a DDD.

1. I don't know about your med school, but over here, if you have a bad attitude towards patients, you fail your OSCEs and clinicals. And come on... you can get away with selling MCs and breaking code of ethics in Malaysia....if you are in a 1st world country-you will get sued/caught and thats the end of your career.

2. So you think a dumb doctor would be able to keep track with recent developments? He/she would even be struggling to understand simple concepts.

1. yet, still hundreds of doctors breaking the code of ethics and got suspended by MMC. How come this happened? You still think that good result is the only thing to determine if the person be a god doctor? Being lazy, ignore patient's minor condition, still could be a good doctor? If the person doesn't get caught, still he/she is a good doctor?

You obviously do not understand what OSCEs or clinical years are

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Added on August 14, 2008, 5:36 pm
1. yet, still hundreds of doctors breaking the code of ethics and got suspended by MMC. How come this happened? You still think that good result is the only thing to determine if the person be a god doctor? Being lazy, ignore patient's minor condition, still could be a good doctor? If the person doesn't get caught, still he/she is a good doctor?

2. Of course, the person should know his very basic. What i meant is those quite complicated disease, let's say diagnosing WPW syndrome or so...

eh......again a gross misrepresentation.....

relative few doctors actually get suspended or strike off.....it's single digit yearly.....you would actually hear of it, as the current chairman (the dg) has mandated such action will be released to the press for public info.....

p/s 'interest' and 'want to be a good doctor' at undergraduate level has little bearing on eventual behaviour.......

if you have the data to proof you right, then pls do so.

i need to prove nothing......

you make claim, NOT me

you need to prove to us, NOT me......

i'm not talking about what happen during the medical years...i'm talking about the whole medical career.
obviously you don't have these kind of exposure and more obviously you r just exam oriented.

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Added on August 14, 2008, 5:54 pmzltan, i'm quite interested in y u take medicine as your future career...
is it because you want to be just get 'dr' as prefix?
or is it because you just got excellent result?
or just because your parents want you to become a doctor?

if you have the data to proof you right, then pls do so.

So, you're not talking about what happen during medical years? Fine...then don't attend med school and proclaim yourself a doctor after SPM.

Seriously, do you know what OSCEs or clinicals are? Have you heard of anyone being nice to patients for 5 years and then being the direct opposite after that? Because, by denying the relevance OSCEs and clinicals, you are denying the practical part of medicine; interaction between doctors and patients. OSCEs are not just showing how well you can do a physical exam, but also your communication, body language, empathy, and how well you connect/make the patient comfortable. Failure to do so in any of these fields=repeat of the semester.

In clinicals, you deal with real patients and they won't pass you if you are an insensitive person.

And I see that you've resorted to personal attacking....
If you have data of hundreds being suspended, then please show proof too.

the jpa scholarship are given after spm..then after spm we will do a levels and after passing jpa requirement,then we are sent to do interviews at our designated college as given during we first get the scholarship after spm...not all jpa student who are sent for the interview pass and get into mmmc or pmc or other college...