Actually, the Black was never marketed for NAS. I think you mistook the Black with the RE4 which is for NAS (like the WD Red).

Thanks for the heads up. Especially useful for people for pop in and who are not aware of the prices and what is the latest available from Synology. If one is prepared to pay the price of the DS412+, might as well go for the 5 bay 1512+ for a little more.

Anyway for people who are budget conscious and using simple file storage and DLNA sharing, the Synology does not make sense. As a comparison, you can get similar performance from the N36L Microserver with 2GB memory and equip it with 5 x 3TB drives in RAID 5 under WHS 2011 and you would arrive at the cost of a bare 5 bay 1512+ with zero drives.

Yeah, one can argue that the 1512+ has USB 3 and dual Gigabit ports. But with not so much money, you can equip the Microserver with a PCIe USB 3 card and a PCIe dual port network card in the x1 and the x16 available slot.

Depends on the capacity of the drives you select but RM 1k for a 4 to 6 disc setup is not possible I think. Taking the cheapest 1TB drives and you are already close to RM 1k.

If you're just looking for the enclosure alone, the HP N36L (not the newer N40L) is going for RM 699 brand new and it can be made to fit 5x 3.5" drives excluding the 160GB OS hardisk even though it's meant to officially fit 4 drives. You need to flash a modified BIOS and use a eSATA to SATA cable to re-use your external eSATA port though.

It is the only next best for NAS at that time. Either you get the green which many complain from the NAS user.

Just the price put me off.

Synology Launches DiskStation DS213+ NAS

http://www.techpowerup.com/171020/Synology...DS213+-NAS.html

If someone looking for a 2nd hand Synology NAS, plz check out my sell thread (link on my siggy).

I'm selling my beloved DS712+. Very nice NAS with lots of features. Sadly I have to sell it to fund my current project.

pls recommend cheap NAS 2 bays for storage only.
I always keep my stuff in duplicates and it is very troublesome so i thought NAS might be a good solution.

D-Link Sharecentre DNS-320 - price around rm250

NAS keep stuff also in duplicate. So what so troublesome?

You can get a program that duplicate your stuff every time you save it in some folder. It run auto. Save you a lot. Or if your pc have raid, than raid your hdd.

using dlink dns 323 and 320...very gooding hardware

impressive feature and reliable hardware

thanks guys, today i went to digital mall to buy DNS-320 unfortunately no HDD stock (WD red) they said new stock will arrive next week.

+1

Prepackaged NAS like Synology and QNAP is very pricy in comparison to N36L or N40L. Given a little time to configure you get more out of the Microserver than those NAS. If you think that getting a NAS means you dont need to configure anything think again, you will still need to get some work done.

And correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I know there are no NAS units that are capable of supporting ECC RAM or a file system as good as ZFS.

I dont think you need to flash the BIOS to use the eSATA and SATA ports though. The flash if I remember is just to remove the IDE emulation and enable ACHI.

correct... the customs bios will enable you to see the 2 extra connections so total of 6 can be seen in the bios setup.

Any comment about using an Intel celeron g530(dual core) or g460(single core HT) for a home build nas/microserver using freenas? May ps3 media server for freenas to play mkv though the ps3

Thanks for your valuable input.

Where can I get this server with this price?

I would say too power hungry and over powered. It's TDP alone is about 65W, your electricity bill is going to sky rocket unless u only turn it on when you need it.
If you are going to media stream get a NAS from Dlink or something. Otherwise if you are going to home build you can get a low power integrated MB like Atom or AMD APU like the Asus E350/E450 boards.

Would have initially went for an atom, except that boards with 4 or more sata ports are difficult to find. The G460 is a 35w tdp but operational load makes it hover around 20w, just slightly more than a synology unit of 17w max load.


This post has been edited by Demon_Eyes_Kyo: Sep 4 2012, 08:59 AM

If you have checked the Synology and they said 17W it is most likely the power consumption of the entire unit which includes other then the CPU, also include the fans, HDD, controllers etc. But for the TDP of the G460 is the power consumption of the CPU alone, which means you have to factor in other power consumables.
Like I said another option is the E350 APu boards from Asus like the E35M1-I DELUXE It comes with 5 SATA connections and a x16 PCIe connector so you can actually put a RAID card to further expand the HDD capacity. I would have gotten this board and not the N40L if only it came out at the time i was looking for it.
If you have not committed yourself to any hardware purchases, I think a lot of the people here would say get the N36L/N40L. Otherwise if you want to pick and choose your hardware I would say it is tied with the ASUS E35M1-I Deluxe.

here is my 2 cents

actually using an old core 2 duo pc as NAS is much better than spending money buying synology.

you can get a lot of function from that pc such as attach a usb printer to it and share it. it also can act as a torrent download machine. you can use it for downloading files from extabit, filefactory, etc

if you have guest coming over to your house and they want to check email or surf the internet, you can let them use that pc too.

you can configure that pc to become a home server. do whatever you want with it.

This thing is rare. Checked out the garage sales but doesnt seem like a lot of people carrying it.

This post has been edited by Demon_Eyes_Kyo: Sep 4 2012, 02:49 PM

No experience with PS3 but if I'm not wrong, the server needs to decode the mkv before streming to PS3? Correct?

No problem. Before Merdeka, I bought 4 x 3TB WD Red drives, 2 x 8GB DDR3 and one N36L Microserver. Total damage is RM 3164. Running it since then. I like the Red drives a lot. Very silent and faster than my 2TB Samsung F4E.

So to anybody that is curious if the Microserver can take 16GB memory, I can confirm that it does. To anyone who has doubts if the 3TB WD Red (or any 3TB for that matter) works in the Microserver, I can confirm that it does.

Well initially when you don't have an OS installed, the BIOS does not know which drives are you going to use as a boot drive and therefore assumes that the 3TB drive is going to be used as a boot drive and as a result, the BIOS detects the drive as a 800GB ++ drive at boot up. After you installed the OS on the given 160GB Seagate drive, the BIOS will report the 3TB drives as 3TB.

You can get it at any HP reseller shops at Mid Valley, Low Yat Plaza or Digital Mall Section 14.

Nice find. But do you have the PC casing and power supply to go with the motherboard?

The Fractal Design casing is nice and so is the PC08 Lian Li.

http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&prod=42

http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/produ...index=63&g=spec

Yes, you are right. It can do a lot of things because it's a full fledged PC. But a few things that C2D PC lacks is the size and power consumption it takes. The idea of a home server is that it's small and runs 24/7 which is nice if it's low powered.

Besides at RM 699, it's quite hard to build a PC with a nice compact casing that fits 5 drives.