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post Dec 16 2011, 11:28 AM

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I thought they JV, not acquired?
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post Dec 16 2011, 06:18 PM

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They never check stock before you confirm?
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post Dec 16 2011, 06:28 PM

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I learn better not buy in fair unless is really good deal.
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post Dec 17 2011, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(skng03 @ Dec 17 2011, 12:46 AM)
ysl28c3/yck30al - 3380
ysl25c/ yck25al -3050
ysl20c/yck20al -2800
ysl15c/ ywm15L - 1070

just installed the air con and tested them, the indoor blower of the 3.0hp really noisy lor... shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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I find the 2HP yoke already noisy. Well for living room is ok lah
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post Jan 5 2012, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Jan 5 2012, 06:37 PM)
thanks. well very old topic.
apparently the new design is different. but still complains of noise. hmmm, I think bad idea.
so, any consensus on inverter aircond ?
if I use 5 hours a day, 25C, low fan, in 16x17feet totally acoustically sealed room, will inverter aircond give me advantage ?

my studio room is away from the sun and window

and I'm looking at Panasonic econavi 1HP, is that a quiet one ?
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1hp is under power, look at 1.5 or 2hp
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post Jan 5 2012, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Jan 5 2012, 08:37 PM)
weikee, even for small room ? power consumption big difference?
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16x17 is not a small room. If you have small room 1HP is good, but if you have big room, 1HP will be working non stop to cool the entire area. Or maybe able to cool a portion of the area.
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post Jan 8 2012, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(Redcapz @ Jan 8 2012, 08:39 AM)
Need your advice, which should i go for my living & bedroom.. 1.0, 1.5 or 2.0hp?

living & dining - 284sqft
bedroom - 168sqft
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For your bedroom, 1hp is minimal, but on hot day it will take longer time to cool the room. 1.5HP will be good, if run for long hours like 5 hours onward, inverter 1.5 will be good investment.

Living room, I suggest 2hp.
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post Jan 9 2012, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(amirsubhi @ Jan 8 2012, 07:49 PM)
can anyone help us

its for the master bedroom

length = 19 feet
width = 13 feet
height =8-9 feet

can you guys recommend how many hp needed

and do inverter and no inverter will bring differences for around 5-6hour usage on night?
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Your room is slightly bigger than mine. Mine is 19' 9" x 11' 4", I use 1.5 HP inverter. Room is facing North

If your room is facing East, or West, you may need higher power A/C, if not your morning or evening will be hot. But If morning and evening is not your concern than is ok.
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post Jan 9 2012, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(Yamaha 444 @ Jan 9 2012, 10:44 AM)
Panasonic 1.5 hP.. air coind.. compressor manyak bising la.. my York even better and more quite...
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That is what many people say. But I find mine ok.

York blower is very noisy but very fast cooling. Good to use @ living hall.

BTW, Acson is oem from York, and is cheaper too.
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post Jan 9 2012, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jan 9 2012, 11:31 AM)
Actually, buying a expensive AC does not mean you have a good product. Sometimes, boils down to luck. I got Pana AC for the whole house. End up there were some problem with few of them and their after sales service sucks.
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Yup, that I agree.

My old house using York, after 2 years so noisy.

My brother room using Panasonic, but is quiet.

I was wondering how is Midea after sales support. Was worry of this hence did not buy Midea.


Added on January 9, 2012, 11:55 amTalk about noise, my distance neighbor, maybe 50+ feet away, when the a/c is switch on, I can hear the compressor noise... TttttTtttttzzzzzz

Now that is noisy.

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post Jan 11 2012, 09:06 PM

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All my 1HP are sharp. Non inverter.
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post Jan 11 2012, 09:25 PM

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My 1.5 is panasonic inverter, and 2 is York ion. 1HP is all Sharp.

Because this all fit lower than my initial budget.
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post Jan 13 2012, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Jan 13 2012, 06:10 PM)
which consumes more power ?

aircond set at 16C, low fan,

or set at 25C , high fan ?
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Sure 16c. Anyway if you set 25c, sometime rainy day outside is about 24c. Better open up windows let outside wind come in much better.

For me anything 24 and above is very stuffy.
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post Jan 13 2012, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Jan 13 2012, 07:09 PM)
oh thanks, because fan is just fan right? and low temperatur means it needs more energy to heat the air to convert to cold eh

i combine 25C with table fan. cool and breezy smile.gif
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Depend, like now raining night can be as low as 24c, so is cooler than room a/c set to 25c. What I do switch on ventilation fan, so it will suck in outdoor air into my room + fan. Got fresh air, and cooling.

If you switch on a/c set 25c, since is in close room, the room temperature will increase so your a/c compressor will switch on and work. It may not work too frequent, but it still take more energy comparing ventilation + fan.
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post Jan 14 2012, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Jan 14 2012, 01:33 AM)
I normally will set the aircon ON for 2 hours included turn the fan ON, where it will make the room cooling faster. 2 hours down the road, the room cool, aircon auto OFF, I already sleep like baby lol...safe $$$ too
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Good, for me can't cause when is stuffy I will wake up. Need fresh air. I am ok with hot or cold but don't like stuffy.
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post Jan 15 2012, 04:07 PM

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Not sure, I got two model. Two with ion for room, one without ion for dining area.
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post Jan 16 2012, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(slackinux @ Jan 16 2012, 03:24 PM)
well, what is the model no of the one without ion ? Both AHA9KCV or AHA9MEV are Sharp 1HP non inverter without ION.
i know this model AHA9KCV is selling RM899 in Carrefour and Court.
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Not too sure. Think i got it much lower.
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post Feb 7 2012, 03:54 PM

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Depend, if the saving is Say RM 50 per month, how many months do you think it need to use before ROI? maybe 2 or 3 years if we buy many AC at once. For shot period users maybe ROI is much longer.
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post Feb 7 2012, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Feb 7 2012, 04:26 PM)
Cause the non-inverter for salesman can earn better commission.

Once you installed and the rest you will facing the trouble on monthly bill for 1hp at Rm100++ or higher usage.

The inverter only take your bill around Rm30++ for fews monthly later your installed fee and extra cost for inverter to be reback already.
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Please do the math how you get RM100++ vs RM30++, you need to have proof of claim before putting the number. Even Panasonic say is 30%, but you get 70%.

Even at 30%, that is optimum level, it may not even hit that rate fro difference usage environment. I am a regular A/C user before and my bill does not even go RM 100++ for one A/C. And now with Inverter, the difference is only like rm 10+- per month.



http://panasonic.asia/ecoideas/ecoproducts...onditioner.html

Reduces energy consumption by up to 30%*1.

*1 Comparison of 1.5HP Inverter model with ECONAVI Dual Sensor ON and OFF (Cooling).

<ECONAVI Dual Sensor ON Outside temperature: 35°C/24°C>
Remote setting temperature: 25°C with Fan Speed (High)
Vertical Airflow direction: Auto, Horizontal Airflow Direction: ECONAVI Mode
Setting temperature goes up 1°C controlled by ECONAVI activity level
<ECONAVI Dual Sensor OFF Outside temperature: 35°C/24°C>
Remote setting temperature: 25°C with Fan Speed (High)
Vertical Airflow direction: Auto, Horizontal Airflow Direction: Front
Total power consumption amount are measured for 1 hour in stable condition
At Panasonic Amenity Room (size:16.2m2)
This is the maximum energy saving value, and the effect differs according to conditions in installation and usag


Added on February 7, 2012, 4:34 pmAnd the most if possible is 50% from Panasonic Malaysia, which need to set temperature to 25c, for lower temperature users saving will be much lesser.



Intelligent Inverter technology provides a high-precision method of maintaining the room set temperature by varying the rotation speed of the compressor; thus giving you energy savings of up to 50%.
*Comparison of 1.5HP Inverter model and 1.5HP Non-Inverter model

Outside temperature: 35ºC/24ºC
Remote setting temperature: 25ºC with Fan speed (High)
Vertical Airflow direction: Auto
Horizontal Airflow direction: Front

Total power consumption amount are measured for 8 hours from starting.
At Panasonic Amenity Room (size:16.6m²)
This is the maximum energy saving value, and the effect differs according to conditions in installation and usage.


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post Feb 7 2012, 05:09 PM

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Some forumer say only RM 30 mah. Use that number loh.

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