sounds good..the sooner the better..
Financial Is property going to drop?, General property price discussion
Financial Is property going to drop?, General property price discussion
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Nov 4 2010, 09:20 AM
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sounds good..the sooner the better..
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Nov 4 2010, 09:38 AM
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4,440 posts Joined: Jan 2010 From: Kuala Lumpur |
QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Nov 4 2010, 12:37 AM) Hopefully it'll help keep the hiking price stagnant. I do not believe that property prices will go down - it may stay stagnant with its current value. I dont think it would affect high end properties that much. Most of those who are willing to fork out millions for these properties wouldnt mind forking out an extra 20%. But this move will surely hit the developers who have been allowed to manipulate the property pricing for too long at the expense of the people. Now lets see what they're gonna do. But then again this move only effects 3rd properties. Most of them can buy and put it in their wife's or working kid's names and after a few years transfer it to their name once the bubble is over. |
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Nov 4 2010, 10:18 AM
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Good move, I expect properties to stabilize or drop before November 2011.
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Nov 4 2010, 11:01 AM
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25,802 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Penang |
QUOTE(Maxsimax @ Nov 4 2010, 09:04 AM) +1!! Don't think just the 70% measure would be enough to curb the rise of property price. Anyway, for '3rd property only can get max 70% loan', this possession of properties will be counted historically or as of the time when you wanna buy the property ? (In hand) What if I sold the first 2 properties now, and going to buy my supposedly 3rd Property...will I be limited to the 70% limit? Thanks. QUOTE(shanelai @ Nov 4 2010, 09:05 AM) what about if i bought 2 and then sell off 2 properties after that. After that i purchase another property, will it within the scope of 70% loan max? Based on my interpretation, it looks at the loan you are getting, aka 70% cap on the third house mortgage. If you have paid off the previous loan, then it won't count, as they are using banks database (the number of mortgage you have) to track down. |
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Nov 4 2010, 12:39 PM
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Good move, I expect properties to stabilize or drop before November 2011.
-- if drop also the high end eg rm1.5million or more if the rm500k below, dont think anyone is rushing to sell, installment is not that high, based on blr-2.2% |
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Nov 4 2010, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE(airline @ Nov 4 2010, 12:39 PM) Good move, I expect properties to stabilize or drop before November 2011. Unless you are a flipper that is not cash rich which most of the property buyer today.-- if drop also the high end eg rm1.5million or more if the rm500k below, dont think anyone is rushing to sell, installment is not that high, based on blr-2.2% |
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Nov 4 2010, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(airline @ Nov 4 2010, 12:39 PM) Good move, I expect properties to stabilize or drop before November 2011. Not sure how it will affect each and every sector, but psychological factor applies everywhere.-- if drop also the high end eg rm1.5million or more if the rm500k below, dont think anyone is rushing to sell, installment is not that high, based on blr-2.2% Also, installment below 500k can be high, it all depends on your salary. |
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Nov 4 2010, 02:11 PM
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1,313 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: klang Valley |
let's wait for 3-6month to see how things are going.....
hopefully the house price will ease.... and those who sapu 1 floor...time to reassess the impact of such measure |
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Nov 4 2010, 02:21 PM
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Nov 4 2010, 02:24 PM
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Nov 4 2010, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(wwwcomment @ Nov 4 2010, 02:21 PM) 30% is wrong figure already.if a property that worth 100K, with now 70% means 70K loan can get. In order to get back 100K loan, jack up 30% is not enough. 30% = 130k x 70% = 91k, jack up not enough. Must jack up >40%, or 43%. 100k x 143 % = 143K x 70% = 100K. So let's jack up 43%. |
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Nov 5 2010, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 4 2010, 11:11 PM) 30% is wrong figure already. jack up 30% is enough to get back 90% loan lo, if all the developer do the same, we will see million houses everywhere, so where is the price drop? it will become sudden hike...... if a property that worth 100K, with now 70% means 70K loan can get. In order to get back 100K loan, jack up 30% is not enough. 30% = 130k x 70% = 91k, jack up not enough. Must jack up >40%, or 43%. 100k x 143 % = 143K x 70% = 100K. So let's jack up 43%. |
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Nov 5 2010, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE(Apscen @ Nov 5 2010, 12:09 AM) jack up 30% is enough to get back 90% loan lo, if all the developer do the same, we will see million houses everywhere, so where is the price drop? it will become sudden hike...... Don't be foolish, banker's valuer is not stupid...You say jack up 40% then jack up 40%, then bankers are the one left with all default loans |
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Nov 5 2010, 01:57 AM
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i think current launches the valuation itself already a stretch....
if up some more valuation........anything wrong, foreclosure, the jackuped valuation will be non performing already |
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Nov 5 2010, 02:30 AM
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iproperty.com also server down due to the latest BNM announcement.
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Nov 5 2010, 08:30 AM
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QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Nov 5 2010, 12:54 AM) Don't be foolish, banker's valuer is not stupid... u miss the point dude, jack up was not mean to get higher loan, it is just a move to get back 90% loan, it mean for new development where developer will offer u 20% discount in return, read back the previous post by others so u know what i am talking about.You say jack up 40% then jack up 40%, then bankers are the one left with all default loans bank n developer will happy of such trick, but gov will bz figuring out the controlling measure, und?? |
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Nov 5 2010, 10:51 AM
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I remember there's a limit banking sector can lend .. matching Lending = Capital+BNM Fund
any bankers around to share the view ? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Nov 5 2010, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(Apscen @ Nov 5 2010, 08:30 AM) u miss the point dude, jack up was not mean to get higher loan, it is just a move to get back 90% loan, it mean for new development where developer will offer u 20% discount in return, read back the previous post by others so u know what i am talking about. this time bank won't join the party anymore, let see developers can use their brain juice more on develop new trick bank n developer will happy of such trick, but gov will bz figuring out the controlling measure, und?? |
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Nov 5 2010, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Nov 5 2010, 01:42 PM) this time bank won't join the party anymore, let see developers can use their brain juice more on develop new trick You guys need to put all the pieces together here, it's all in support of the bubble. You can be part of it in it's final stage or be smart and watch it's demise. |
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Nov 5 2010, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(Onemorething @ Nov 5 2010, 01:53 PM) You guys need to put all the pieces together here, it's all in support of the bubble. You can be part of it in it's final stage or be smart and watch it's demise. from what i know, BLR are set to increase follow by reintroduce back full RPGT(or worst, min 5% RPGT regardless of number of years holding) & GST after GE |
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