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post Nov 9 2010, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(0106127 @ Nov 9 2010, 01:05 AM)
property prices dont seems to correct..
infact it is going higher.

the 70% LTV financing, not much deterrent.
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Property market doesn't react so fast.
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post Nov 9 2010, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(prody @ Nov 9 2010, 08:17 AM)
Property market doesn't react so fast.
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Malaysia will only be marginally effected by government controls if any. The bubble is in, plain and simple, and is driven not by domestic momentum but the global markets. Valuations in the stock market in Malaysia are only moving up based on the value of the MYR.

The RE market in KL and KV prime areas will correct based on the next downturn which is unavoidable. Think Global, be proactive Local.
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post Nov 9 2010, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Onemorething @ Nov 9 2010, 09:20 AM)
Malaysia will only be marginally effected by government controls if any.  The bubble is in, plain and simple, and is driven not by domestic momentum but the global markets.  Valuations in the stock market in Malaysia are only moving up based on the value of the MYR.

The RE market in KL and KV prime areas will correct based on the next downturn which is unavoidable.  Think Global, be proactive Local.
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what do you think of the current prices of average new launch now? @ RM500~RM600psf range. Is it peak or near peak already?
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post Nov 9 2010, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(cranx @ Nov 9 2010, 01:43 PM)
what do you think of the current prices of average new launch now? @ RM500~RM600psf range. Is it peak or near peak already?
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There is no hard and fast rule regarding pricing. New launch pricing must always be compared with the general market price of that area. If it is about 5-10% higher then its still acceptable. But once it goes beyond that, then u have to really consider all your options.
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post Nov 9 2010, 05:00 PM

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what do you think of the current prices of average new launch now? @ RM500~RM600psf range. Is it peak or near peak already?

my opinion is peak already. unless is klcc or mont kiara.
i wont go new launch. subsales more value above rm400 high liao
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post Nov 9 2010, 05:17 PM

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I believe the top is in. There is always more fish to fry for the developers and ways to encourage the last rounds of buyers to part with thier money. Watch the listings for your area, look for the first sign which has already occurred and that being a 30-50% rise in listings and a 20-30% drop in sales and you know things only have one way to go!
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post Nov 9 2010, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(Onemorething @ Nov 9 2010, 05:17 PM)
I believe the top is in.  There is always more fish to fry for the developers and ways to encourage the last rounds of buyers to part with thier money.  Watch the listings for your area, look for the first sign which has already occurred and that being a 30-50% rise in listings and a 20-30% drop in sales and you know things only have one way to go!
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Yeah, if you are looking to buy it's good to monitor the prices in your target area now and compare to the price development over the past few years.

I just happened to see one new listing drop from the established pricing over the last few months.
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post Nov 9 2010, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(prody @ Nov 9 2010, 05:22 PM)
Yeah, if you are looking to buy it's good to monitor the prices in your target area now and compare to the price development over the past few years.

I just happened to see one new listing drop from the established pricing over the last few months.
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Which?
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post Nov 10 2010, 02:41 AM

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Issue 22 of Property Buyer. (unsure who is the author but most probably one working for the vested parties) laugh.gif

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Where will our children live?
Will they be able to afford to live where you live?

Six years ago, a fresh graduate with good results could earn a starting monthly salary of around RM1600 in a respectable firm.

Back then, a modest 2-story link house in a good area (eg. Damansara Heights) cost around RM500,000.

Today the same fresh graduate could earn up to RM2600, but the cost of link houses almost everywhere else ( Bandar Utama, Desa Park City, etc) has shot up to over a million ringgit.

In very simple mathematical terms, what would have taken an industrious fresh graduate 30-35 years to own a modest home, would now take at least twice as long to own.

Unbelievable. But true.

The cost of home ownership in all areas, particularly in the well-established ones, has far outgrown the increase in real income levels.

Which leads us to the inevitable question - where will our children stay?

Or to put it more precisely, albeit crudely, where will our children be able to afford to stay?

Discounting any inheritance, lottery strike or other windfall, the truth of the matter is, at least for one family who grew up in Damansara Heights, that it took both the husband and wife to work extremely hard, which lead them to be promoted to the highest levels in their respective organization, and still just barely be able to afford a small little bangalow in the same area 20 years after they graduated!

And this is a family that eats and shops very moderately, buy their groceries from hypermarkets, do not club, drink or even hang out over RM10 coffee lattes.

If they had achieved any less success, got stuck in "upper management", or spent more extravagantly, they are convinced there is no way they would have been able to afford to stay in the area!

Does this sound exaggerated?

Not at all.

If today, you can only get an old link-house for the same price as what you would have paid 20 years ago, dare we imagine what we can buy 20 years from now?

Actually, we can - if we are brave enough!

In 20 years, your RM1 million which could buy you a nice bangalow 20 years ago, and an old link house today, will likely only buy you an old, 1200-1600 sf condominium in the same, well-established area.

Will this really happen even with so many condominiums being built?

The answer is yes. For the simple reason that even the number of units of condominiums in a particular area is limited. It will take much longer, but eventually, it will happen.

So what can we do if we would like our children to even have a chance of buying a house in the area they grew up?

Well, the answer is pretty obvious isn't it?

You have to buy the house now, and hold it until they come of age, otherwise, short of a windfall, it will be most unlikely that they will be afford to do so.

Some parents have already realized this, which has accounted for the recent upsurge in transactions, and prices, of old link, semi-detached and bungalow properties in all the well-established areas.

We are no longer in the age of "psf reasonableness", "capital appreciation", "ROI" or "rental yields".

We are really in the age most aptly described by Elvis Presley's 1960 number one hit in the UK and USA...

"It's now or never!"


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post Nov 10 2010, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(cranx @ Nov 10 2010, 02:41 AM)
Issue 22 of Property Buyer. (unsure who is the author but most probably one working for the vested parties) laugh.gif
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Note my comment above about the last phase of buyers and the enablers looking to squeeze out the last sales possible as the top is in! This is an example of it, and there are more to come such as incentives such as rebates, free ipad, cash back. The interesting thing to note is the government has stepped in slightly with a message but banks are still hungry for loans as RE growth is key to their stakeholders via share returns.

Look for more insanity to come but I can tell you that those high end bungalows in Bangsar and Dsara Heights are being listed more and more with very little transactions. They are about 30% overpriced and some (likely overleveraged) are dropping prices every week.

Remember, you will never time the top to sell or time the bottom to buy. The very few with foresight and real confidence will be ready.

Are you ready?
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post Nov 10 2010, 08:46 AM

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@cranx. U mean Catch 22? instead of issue 22?
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post Nov 10 2010, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 9 2010, 05:33 PM)
Which?
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It's in one of the area I monitor. wink.gif
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post Nov 10 2010, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(prody @ Nov 10 2010, 09:09 AM)
It's in one of the area I monitor. wink.gif
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The one property that I viewed few weeks ago also seem not too hot already
before 70% LTV, agent told me better make decision quick, he has a lot of potential buyers eyeing the house, waiting to view the house...
but this week i receieve few calls from him pushing me for buying decision...
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QUOTE(chubbyken @ Nov 10 2010, 09:25 AM)
The one property that I viewed few weeks ago also seem not too hot already
before 70% LTV, agent told me better make decision quick, he has a lot of potential buyers eyeing the house, waiting to view the house...
but this week i receieve few calls from him pushing me for buying decision...
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agent always talk like that...got potential buyer...must put deposit fast bla bla bla.....
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post Nov 10 2010, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(chubbyken @ Nov 10 2010, 09:25 AM)
The one property that I viewed few weeks ago also seem not too hot already
before 70% LTV, agent told me better make decision quick, he has a lot of potential buyers eyeing the house, waiting to view the house...
but this week i receieve few calls from him pushing me for buying decision...
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It's normal. Once a real estate Agent told me the owner renovated 250k and that's why it's a good deal. When i went in all I saw was those laminated timber flooring and some build in wardrobe. The rest are just normal and even the kitchen is just those old fashioned-concrete-tile top and typical melamine board cabinet.

I just kept to myself but I knew in my heart the agent was lying to me. LOL.
If it was true the owner must be one big waterfish.




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post Nov 10 2010, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(Waachaaa @ Nov 7 2010, 10:27 PM)
Any new launch around Damansara Perdana lately?
Im interested to invest a studio for rental
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you can consider Ritze Perdana 2 ..good rental demand for the studios there ..




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post Nov 10 2010, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(chubbyken @ Nov 10 2010, 09:25 AM)
The one property that I viewed few weeks ago also seem not too hot already
before 70% LTV, agent told me better make decision quick, he has a lot of potential buyers eyeing the house, waiting to view the house...
but this week i receieve few calls from him pushing me for buying decision...
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Very common, nothing to do with LVT issue.

When first meet, introduce, generally people like to make the situation highly demanded, so that push for quick decision/deal can be made.

Where can say, hey, I have plenty of supply or this property little people see or eyeing one, you can slowly make decision.
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post Nov 10 2010, 12:21 PM

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ritze perdana 2, people rent the 400sq feet or 800sq feet.
which more popular in demand
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post Nov 10 2010, 01:58 PM

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i am looking at mont kiara condos and referring alot to www.propwall.com since they do simple price benchmarking. It seems for most of the condos, there is a sudden price surge recently, which is really holding me back in buying any units..is this a good symptom the price may go down further?? i'm really unsure.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(attahun @ Nov 10 2010, 01:58 PM)
i am looking at mont kiara condos and referring alot to www.propwall.com since they do simple price benchmarking. It seems for most of the condos, there is a sudden price surge recently, which is really holding me back in buying any units..is this a good symptom the price may go down further?? i'm really unsure..  hmm.gif
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Dont trust the info on www.propwall.com

Its mostly property agents and developers trying to sell off their units. They are saying Empire Subang is the 2nd most sought after property in Subang. Thats a big lie. Ppl are actually trying to sell off the units there because the new LRT is coming right in between the Empire shopping centre and the residence. Its crossing at level 5 or 6 and will practically destroy the value of all the units facing the proposed LRT.

http://www.propwall.my/subang_jaya/empire_subang


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