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wenhan88
post Feb 19 2015, 01:04 AM

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Guys need help here..I did a self check on CTOS..and I found out my name appear on section C (with my previous company name which is closed down 2 year ago)..

Actually what is that mean on section C?
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post Feb 23 2015, 09:54 PM

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Hi, is anyone one from akpk here? Or anyone apply akpk before?
I have cc outstanding of around RM 150k, would like to seek for akpk assistance. My only worries is will akpk shows in ctos/bank system even after I have fully settle the akpk few years later?
Actually I have a house to refinance (can cash out about 120k) but the bank don't allowed me to do so due to the high DSR (mainly cc outstanding)

Need your kind advise.

Thanks
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post Feb 24 2015, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Old DaI @ Feb 17 2015, 01:08 AM)
Guys just wanna check, for car payment
Let's say for the first 6months the payment is not nice as 1-2-2-2-3-2 den 0 for 3 months will the bank
Approve any other loans or credit card?
I heard basically will take a year to 18months for the record to be renew or hidden the past months?
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one year. If 3 show in CCRIS most likely your loan confirm rejected by bank
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post Feb 25 2015, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(yybryan @ Oct 31 2014, 08:11 AM)
Yes. Now we need to pay for the report even is online. Still FOC in Aug, started sept need to pay.

U need to monitor yourself and provide the relevant supporing docs to them to request to delete manually  . CTOS have million of records in their sysyem, they will not auto delete.
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After waiting for 2 years ...CTOS deleted the history records for those fully settled accounts... no more history in my CTOS record rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif ....
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post Feb 25 2015, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(cheehh @ Feb 25 2015, 11:38 AM)
After waiting for 2 years ...CTOS deleted the history records for those fully settled accounts... no more history in my CTOS record rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif ....
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good for u rclxms.gif

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mosfet83
post Feb 26 2015, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 3 2015, 12:51 PM)
0 = veli good
3 = bad
3 is 3mth default payment. correct? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(13aby @ Feb 3 2015, 01:37 PM)
0 is nice , 1 is not really nice , 2 is bad,not recommended  , 3 is dooms day / law will come find you
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those numbers are not rating, it is actually number of payments in arrears. if 5 means the payment is late by 5 months. usually, it is bad but for some cases like ASB loan, banks don't really care since the loan has collateral. and it depend on banks as well, international banks are more strict in term of debt collection but local Islamic banks, they still have some soft spot.

QUOTE(yybryan @ Feb 5 2015, 09:22 AM)
CTOS only keep report with Summon or legal action taken against you, if no legal action, no record in their report. This is GOOD.
For bad car instalment payment only capture in CCRIS, but since you had sold the car in Nov'14 and if the settlement to the bank had completed, Now Feb'15, your car loan record in CCRIS should be remove already unless you sold the car but loan not yet settle by buyer, check with your bank to confirm loan settlement and you can print your CCRIS report at BNM for your own checking and monitoring.
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CCRIS will only be updated on the 15th of the following month. but internally, bank have their own cut off date for payments, usually on the month end regardless of your due date.
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QUOTE(mosfet83 @ Feb 26 2015, 12:20 PM)
those numbers are not rating, it is actually number of payments in arrears. if 5 means the payment is late by 5 months. usually, it is bad but for some cases like ASB loan, banks don't really care since the loan has collateral. and it depend on banks as well, international banks are more strict in term of debt collection but local Islamic banks, they still have some soft spot.
CCRIS will only be updated on the 15th of the following month. but internally, bank have their own cut off date for payments, usually on the month end regardless of your due date.
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I thought they change to every 10th of the month, no?

CCRIS only got 1..2..3.. got 5 ?? never heard of 5..
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QUOTE(aromachong @ Feb 26 2015, 12:22 PM)
I thought they change to every 10th of the month, no?

CCRIS only got 1..2..3.. got 5 ?? never heard of 5..
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Correction - Sorry for giving wrong info ccris report doesn't max till 3 or 5.. it will max till 99 also, my senior just show me one with 99 due to abandon project.

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post Feb 26 2015, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(aromachong @ Feb 26 2015, 12:22 PM)
I thought they change to every 10th of the month, no?

CCRIS only got 1..2..3.. got 5 ?? never heard of 5..
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By they you mean BNM? Then no, its 15.

QUOTE(ims2628 @ Feb 26 2015, 01:33 PM)
max is 3 if three month consistent didn't pay and following month also didn't pay will remain as 3
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There is no such thing as max is 3. Please see CCRIS Explanatory Notes, item J clearly mentions that number of payment records which mean there's no max. You can check sample here.

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QUOTE(mosfet83 @ Feb 26 2015, 02:26 PM)
By they you mean BNM? Then no, its 15.
There is no such thing as max is 3. Please see CCRIS Explanatory Notes, item J clearly mentions that number of payment records which mean there's no max. You can check sample here.
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Correction - Sorry for giving wrong info ccris report doesn't max till 3 or 5.. it will max till 99 also, my senior just show me one with 99 due to abandon project.

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post Feb 26 2015, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(mosfet83 @ Feb 26 2015, 12:20 PM)
those numbers are not rating, it is actually number of payments in arrears. if 5 means the payment is late by 5 months. usually, it is bad but for some cases like ASB loan, banks don't really care since the loan has collateral. and it depend on banks as well, international banks are more strict in term of debt collection but local Islamic banks, they still have some soft spot.
CCRIS will only be updated on the 15th of the following month. but internally, bank have their own cut off date for payments, usually on the month end regardless of your due date.
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CCRISS only show 0 , 1 , 2 and 3 .... 5 i think in ur own dream of CCRISS haha
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the reason why you never see more than 3 is because, the moment you reach 3 months of arrears bank will start calling you already for payment to ensure payment for at least 1 month. another reason based on my experience is banks cap the max to 3, but such cap does not exist from bnm side.

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QUOTE(ims2628 @ Feb 26 2015, 02:30 PM)
what i means is if more than 3 months consistent didn't pay the 4th also didn't clear the previous pending amount it will remain as 3, until the payment is solve.
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QUOTE(ims2628 @ Feb 26 2015, 02:30 PM)
what i means is if more than 3 months consistent didn't pay the 4th also didn't clear the previous pending amount it will remain as 3, until the payment is solve.
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Don't agree. It will not stagnant at 3.
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Feb 26 2015, 11:05 PM)
Don't agree.  It will not stagnant at 3.
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which means got 4...5...6...and so on..? hmm
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QUOTE(13aby @ Feb 26 2015, 02:41 PM)
CCRISS only show 0 , 1 , 2 and 3 .... 5 i think in ur own dream of CCRISS haha
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CCRIS doesn't only show up to 3.
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Feb 26 2015, 11:05 PM)
Don't agree.  It will not stagnant at 3.
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if more than 3 it will be in legal action already, house or car will be in auction.
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QUOTE(ims2628 @ Feb 26 2015, 11:14 PM)
if more than 3 it will be in legal action already, house or car will be in auction.
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Yes, I do not deny the fact that it will likely be in legal action or under negotiation for R&R but stagnant at 3 is not the case.
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Feb 26 2015, 11:06 PM)
CCRIS doesn't only show up to 3.
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Jason you're right

Correction - Sorry for giving wrong info ccris report doesn't max till 3 or 5.. it will max till 99 also, my senior just show me one with 99 due to abandon project.
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QUOTE(ims2628 @ Feb 26 2015, 11:29 PM)
Jason you're right

Correction - Sorry for giving wrong info ccris report doesn't max till 3 or 5.. it will max till 99 also, my senior just show me one with 99 due to abandon project.
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wow.. first time i heard 99 ... hmm.gif

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