back to topic please... for matric and stpm it is better to have an equal system for all... why segregate based on race... but we are not going to discuss it here as there's another thread already...

back to topic... i think upsr and pmr is a good way for students to prepare for future challenges... these 2 exams are chances for them to concentrate and show what they are capable of

Well now that I've taken UPSR.. and took PMR last year.. it don't matter to me anymore.. and Malaysians fuss too much on these two subjects, a friend mine who is really smart (always get A at normal tests and exams) paid RM3000 for the Adam Khoo camp and went to as many tuitions as he can and also he plays alot of DOTA.. play hard, study hard, he says.. in the end he got 4A's.. as for me.. I didn't even open any of the reference books my mom bought for me.. only open on the exam day itself.. also get 5A.. yet on normal test I can only get 2A.. and ps if I sound too braggish.. but I am trying to make a point that pressure from parents and peers take effect on you.. but sadly my own self is hardly intimidated by anyone else.. so I cant get motivation from my surroundings..

Never abolish it.
UPSR - To go which secondary school
PMR - To go which stream
So it's a big NO

ABOLISH SPM AND STPM TOO.....

hehe. we been though these 2 exam. very stressful. now is their(younger gen.) turn to sit for it. actually no use the la. think back last time, just for the small little exam we studied so hard.....and still finally spm is most important la

pmr,upsr,spm all these are just filtering process.

if you're replacing it, how are we supposed to measure the performance of our education

yes,it's not doing that well now..but taking this out will cause a major change overhaul to the system.

and considering education ministry is never consistence on their policies it's a waste of time,money,and efforts to change the education system when you know 6 years along the way they're going to revert back.

for example, look at the english as the medium language issues, PTS examination, matriculation system.

All point toward inconsistencies within the ministry.

with the exception of upsr, I have straight A's in every single one of them. and I realized it all doesn't matter in the end.It's just a stepping stone. Get better score better opportunities.scholarship all lay out.

This post has been edited by milleu: Feb 6 2009, 02:01 PM

wat to doo

yes

only spm for scholarship and entry for college

Certainty no.

UPSR and PMR are major exam. It is one of the reason the student are studying and can give them a evaluation of their performance ( if they don't relies on leaked question and study hard)

it shuldn't be abolish, but ammended.

you think nowadays small kid care for their exam? 1st or 2nd class maybe la becuz parent force them ma. the rest still enjoying life as childhood until spm

very much no. Nowdays kids are not like what we are used to, kids nowdays are addicted to what technology has to offer including the psp and so on, kids nowdays dun even study until it is 2 months b4 upsr or pmr. So when u abolish it, no kid will even want to study at all. And spm will show the effect of it

haiz pmr tembak objective also can pass(sometimes get A also got). after they pass u think they wan study anymore?

wtf wan abloish.. if abolish..std 6 kids and form 3 student won't be worried about SPM

i work as a tuition teacher and alot of them cant even tembak properly to pass, let alone an A. This at least allows them to pick up the book and know what they are studying for the pass 3 years. If not, no student will concentrate on their primary and lower secondary and cram to the max on their spm

plus, this might even make the students feel bored as they will think that studying is of no purpose and hence spent time in doing other things like XXX or even mixing with more bad peoples.

I have a student who was a bad child (all those clubbing and xxx and whatsoever) realise that her pmr is coming and she stayed home to study (with my help) and actually felt enjoyment and accomplishment when she did well (not too well, but good enough for her standard) and resume to studying for her future

i know its a long shot, but if u abolish upsr and pmr, even the parents will only let the student cram 2 months b4 spm.


but if pmr and upsr keep on lowering their standards just to show that the amount of student getting A is higher, then they might as well abolish them

UPSR i tembak...still get As..PMR nahh...tembak mati SPM..never never tembak

Abolish it. UPSR is useless. PMR however, since it determines which stream one is going, have a small exam by the state ministry or something?

Din they talk about abolishing SPM last time? The funny thing about MOE is things they say wanna abolish will never be abolished...nuff said\

So,dont expect much of abolishing UPSR and PMR.It just wont happen.

This post has been edited by solstice818: Feb 6 2009, 10:55 PM

i dont see the point of abolishing it.
Students will take studying for granted and would not study until form 5(SPM) n by then they will be screwed.
A good example would be me. During form 2 i hardly paid attention in class.
I only started to be serious about studying when i was in form 3 because of pmr.
Anyway, UPSR n PMR is not dat hard.

Imho, exams are good benchmarks. Besides, we use it to exercise our study. I also agree to use PMR to identify our stream in F4.